What happens to the Republican Party now? (4 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[Snarky Sack]

Which of the younger Trump supporters do you see as most promising

Pffft! Yeah right.

Let me take a wild guess. No matter what name I give, you will do the "OMFG ROFLMAO! How can you think that such a ridiculous and horrible person is promising? You must be lying again, you lying liar!"

Aw, what the heck. I'll bite.

Wesley is his name flying helicopters and loving America is his game.

For Release: Wesley Hunt Endorsed by President Donald J. Trump

Houston, TX – Today, President Donald Trump endorsed Wesley Hunt for Congress in Texas’ 38th Congressional District. With President Trump’s endorsement, Wesley Hunt is unquestionably the consensus conservative candidate for TX-38. President Donald Trump joins a long list of true conservative...

wesleyfortexas.com

Enjoy!

 

[Snarky Sack]

Representative Hunt (R-TX)

 

[MT15]

Well, he doesn’t seem bat shirt crazy. But I don’t find him particularly exceptional in any way. Of course, the fact that he has already endorsed Trump for president in 2024 calls his national security judgement into question. I wonder if he has made a statement on what Trump is accused of doing?

 

[Snarky Sack]

Well, he doesn’t seem bat shirt crazy. But I don’t find him particularly exceptional in any way. Of course, the fact that he has already endorsed Trump for president in 2024 calls his national security judgement into question. I wonder if he has made a statement on what Trump is accused of doing?

I like the way he talks. It reminds me of a movie character.

 

[Snarky Sack]

Cruz, Hunt cry foul over Trump indictment

(The Center Square) – After former President Donald Trump announced that he was about to be indicted for having classified documents at his Florida home, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz and

www.thecentersquare.com

Hunt issued a statement, saying, “On the very same day the FBI agreed to allow members of the Oversight Committee to review documents tying Joe Biden to a $5 Million bribery scheme with a foreign national, President Trump is informed that he will be indicted by Biden’s DOJ. Coincidence? You don’t still believe those exist under this administration, do you?”

He also said, “It was Joe Biden who was illegally in possession of numerous boxes of classified material he obtained both as a United States Senator, and as Vice President.

“Neither one of those offices afforded him the authority to declassify the material. In the face of this glaring irony, I wonder, is it ignorance that drives Biden’s DOJ to charge Trump over classified material, or is it hubris?

“Biden, [Attorney General Merrick] Garland, and this entire administration have become drunk with power and they will pursue every avenue available to them to destroy Donald Trump, even if it means taking an open flame to the Constitution.”

Hunt also said the targeting of Trump by the DOJ was “election interference” because Trump is more popular than Biden and would defeat him in the next election if there were a rematch between the two. He said Trump “represents an existential threat to the status quo, a system that has failed America, and to the most unpopular, unqualified, and unfit President to hold this office in a century. That’s why this election interference persists.”

 

[MT15]

Ugh, his crazy meter just took a hit. Either that or he absolutely doesn’t mind spouting actual nonsense and twisted untruths to curry favor. Neither is very attractive to a moderate or independent voter, IMO.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Ugh, his crazy meter just took a hit. Either that or he absolutely doesn’t mind spouting actual nonsense and twisted untruths to curry favor. Neither is very attractive to a moderate or independent voter, IMO.

That might actually be an understatement. An open flame to the constitution? LMAO

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Ugh, his crazy meter just took a hit.

More like stupid meter. President Biden has been in public service as an elected official longer than he's be alive and to call him unqualified and unfit is just more "low brow", juvenile rhetoric. But hey, give your constituent what they want! No need for you to pretend like you're going to lead them anywhere, keep following their Lead, Hunt!

 

[Snarky Sack]

Ugh, his crazy meter just took a hit. Either that or he absolutely doesn’t mind spouting actual nonsense and twisted untruths to curry favor. Neither is very attractive to a moderate or independent voter, IMO.

Those won't affect him though. He beat out five Republican hopefuls to win the Republican nomination in the district. The district himself is heavily Republican.

One fourth through his first term and he's already making a name for himself among Republicans, though rarely mentioned in the MSM. Exactly the type guy Trump or DeSantis could pluck out of relative obscurity for the ticket.

Among other reasons, that's why I think he is the most promising.

 

[MT15]

Those won't affect him though. He beat out five Republican hopefuls to win the Republican nomination in the district. The district himself is heavily Republican.

One fourth through his first term and he's already making a name for himself among Republicans, though rarely mentioned in the MSM. Exactly the type guy Trump or DeSantis could pluck out of relative obscurity for the ticket.

That's why I think he is the most promising.

Hmmm, that’s all well and good. However - I read that his district was created specifically with him in mind when he failed to win a seat in a more politically balanced district. So TX Rs must see something in him. From what I read, though, he isn’t going to pull as much support in a state-wide election where his more extreme statements will alienate all but the most diehard Trumpers. Never mind how his positions and rhetoric will play on the national stage. I’m skeptical.

At least he isn’t spouting off on Rothschild space lasers starting forest fires, but that is an admittedly low bar.

Also, I just noticed you typed a (D) after his name in your post above.

 

[Snarky Sack]

Hmmm, that’s all well and good. However - I read that his district was created specifically with him in mind when he failed to win a seat in a more politically balanced district.

Just for him, or for a Republican? If it was really just for him, the GOP must think a lot of him.

So TX Rs must see something in him. From what I read, though, he isn’t going to pull as much support in a state-wide election where his more extreme statements will alienate all but the most diehard Trumpers. Never mind how his positions and rhetoric will play on the national stage. I’m skeptical.

Right now, not getting afoul of the diehard Trumpers is the key to surviving for a Republican. That's why DeSantis - though running against him - is decrying his treatment by the WFG.

At least he isn’t spouting off on Rothschild space lasers starting forest fires, but that is an admittedly low bar.

Also, I just noticed you typed a (D) after his name in your post above.

Doh!

 

[LA - L.A.]

I mean, in a lot of ways, Biden would be the Bush of his party, and I can't recall anyone calling him a DINO.

Maybe not here, but I call Biden a dinosaur all the the time, does that count?

 

[LA - L.A.]

The Republican Party is why we are tethering on the edge of losing our Democracy.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/16/house-gop-trump-indictment-reaction-jan-6/

These are not serious people.

Unfortunately, I think they are very serious and we need to take them seriously, because they are also very dangerous. They may be delusional and/or sociopathic, but they are deadly serious in what they are trying to do.

 

[MT15]

Sack: I don’t know whether they created it just for him or not, but the impression I had was that the R party in TX was very supportive of him.

The problem with catering to the fringes - election was stolen, Biden is senile, yet somehow the mastermind of a diabolical criminal plot, FBI and DOJ need to be defunded, dismantled or purged of “leftists” (this one always makes me giggle), etc. - is that the rest of us can hear these things too. What’s the use of surviving by running to this extreme if it makes you non-viable to the great middle in the general? I do realize those aren’t fringe views in the GOP, but they are to the populace at large.

I don’t know he is saying all these things, but I saw a smattering of some extremism above. I also read one statement he made about “abortion up until birth” which is another non-existent bogeyman that not-so-honest people use to fear monger.

 

[Snarky Sack]

Sack: I don’t know whether they created it just for him or not, but the impression I had was that the R party in TX was very supportive of him.

No doubt. Praise Allah that the GOP has stopped turning up its nose at appealing to blacks. At least Trump has. In light of the Democrats catering to illegal immigrants from Latin-America, who take jobs that might otherwise help American citizens of color move up to the middle class, they are an untapped gold mine for Republicans.

But Republicans have turned up their noses at appealing to blacks specifically, falling back on "a rising tide raises all boats," and other nonsense. Nobody cares about all boats. They care about their own boat.

The problem with catering to the fringes - election was stolen, Biden is senile, yet somehow the mastermind of a diabolical criminal plot, FBI and DOJ need to be defunded, dismantled or purged of “leftists” (this one always makes me giggle), etc. - is that the rest of us can hear these things too.

Suppose - just suppose - that Hunt has no particular political views, but is just saying whatever it takes to hold onto his seat.* What he is doing benefits him in the short run. I'd bet my kids college fund that he'll be re-elected in 2024.

Later, if such an opportunist needs to, he'll shift gears. Right now, politically, for a Republican, supporting Trump is by far the best course,

Allah forbid, Trump should die, anyone who opposed him on the GOP side is toast, politically.

What’s the use of surviving by running to this extreme if it makes you non-viable to the great middle in the general? I do realize those aren’t fringe views in the GOP, but they are to the populace at large.

That seems to assume that being president is every pol's goals. Maybe it is for most.

But for Wesley Hunt? A guy who worked his way from an impoverished and marginalized black youth to be a congressman? Leading committees and being the scourge of the wokesters that infest the government will be good enough. A senior leadership position like Speaker or whip or Minority Leader? He'll take it.

I don’t know he is saying all these things, but I saw a smattering of some extremism above. I also read one statement he made about “abortion up until birth” which is another non-existent bogeyman that not-so-honest people use to fear monger.

Is it?

Does that mean that you do NOT support abortion up until birth, or does that mean that you will obfuscate and refuse to answer?

Take your time, I have to crawl into bed now.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Unfortunately, I think they are very serious and we need to take them seriously, because they are also very dangerous. They may be delusional and/or sociopathic, but they are deadly serious in what they are trying to do.

INDEED.

I understand that they are serious and I understand that although my entire family was born in this country we are an unwelcomed houseguest in their eyes. All of "the others" are and now they have expanded their vitriol to anyone that don't subscribe to their ideas.

The Republican's electorate values extremist and their elected officials are too weak to bring them back from the brink that they led them to through years of feeding them that Democrats are the enemy. The Democrat's electorate choose to side with the likes of Clinton x2, Obama, and Biden, all of which are the most moderate/centrist they have to offer over a Sanders type and yet Republicans label them "the radical far-left socialist"? How do you debate against that in a two-party system? How can we govern?

 

[el caliente]

I don’t know what worse, that Republicans might run Trump again, or that Democrats might vote for 4 more years of this



We only have ourselves to blame.

Edited to provide a longer video.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I don’t know what worse, that Republicans might run Trump again, or that Democrats might vote for 4 more years of this



We only have ourselves to blame.

I do...and it ain't even close!