Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (4 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf

 

[DaveXA]

Interesting. First guilty verdict and sentenced to 8 months in prison. Keep in mind this individual wasn't charged with damaging property or assaulting anyone. He also apologized and said he regretted participating in the event.



The defiant ones who did more will probably see years of jail time, I think.

 

[JRad]

Interesting. First guilty verdict and sentenced to 8 months in prison. Keep in mind this individual wasn't charged with damaging property or assaulting anyone. He also apologized and said he regretted participating in the event.



The defiant ones who did more will probably see years of jail time, I think.

Of course it’s Florida Man

 

[SFIDC3]

Interesting. First guilty verdict and sentenced to 8 months in prison. Keep in mind this individual wasn't charged with damaging property or assaulting anyone. He also apologized and said he regretted participating in the event.



The defiant ones who did more will probably see years of jail time, I think.

Don’t care what he didn’t do, I want everyone who was in that building illegally to serve years in prison. A message needs to be sent, this is major weak sauce….

 

[DaveXA]

Don’t care what he didn’t do, I want everyone who was in that building illegally to serve years in prison. A message needs to be sent, this is major weak sauce….

I agree, but it is what it is. I was just noting what the article stated.

 

[Saintamaniac]

Any jail time is better than no jail time. Now either he will be seen as a coward for apologizing and regretting his participation or he'll be seen as a model for how to avoid a longer sentence. Trumpers are hard to read because they are rabid snowflakes. They back the blue unless the blue goes against them. They love the constitution until they ignore it. Just have to see how it plays out. He might be a super patriot now for being a coward and trying to overthrow the government.

 

[barbar]

Don’t care what he didn’t do, I want everyone who was in that building illegally to serve years in prison. A message needs to be sent, this is major weak sauce….

I would venture a guess that most of these people would find 8 months in prison worth it if they had succeeded.

 

[MT15]

Maybe, but will they find it worth it seeing that they didn’t succeed? Losing jobs, maybe homes? Losing the respect of neighbors and acquaintances who possibly had no idea they were this stupid?

 

[barbar]

Maybe, but will they find it worth it seeing that they didn’t succeed? Losing jobs, maybe homes? Losing the respect of neighbors and acquaintances who possibly had no idea they were this stupid?

Some will. They think they were right and would do it again. Others will be regretful.

 

[DaveXA]

Some will. They think they were right and would do it again. Others will be regretful.

Yeah, clearly there will be groups of both. I know 2 guys who went. Neither actually went in. One said he's glad he didn't go into the Capitol. The other says he wish he did. So I'm guessing it's a mixed bag.

 

[zztop]

Interesting. First guilty verdict and sentenced to 8 months in prison. Keep in mind this individual wasn't charged with damaging property or assaulting anyone. He also apologized and said he regretted participating in the event.



The defiant ones who did more will probably see years of jail time, I think.

I'm going to quote you but this is for everyone. I'm a little confused by the variance in sentencing because this post ^ says he got 8 months
However, I was reading this

Capitol rioter with ties to White supremacist gang pleads guilty and is sentenced to 6 months in jail with credit for time served | CNN Politics

A US Capitol rioter who joined a White supremacist gang while in prison for attempted murder pleaded guilty Monday to a misdemeanor related to the January 6 insurrection.

www.cnn.com

and there the judge said the maximum he could sentence was 6 months

The rioter, Michael Curzio, was sentenced to six months in jail but will be released Wednesday because he has been in jail since mid-January and will receive credit for time already served.

"Mr. Curzio should be sentenced to the six-month statutory maximum," federal Judge Carl Nichols said at a hearing. "I am not in a position to be able to impose a longer sentence than that. I think that six-month sentence is appropriate here. Mr. Curzio will have, in two days, served that entire sentence."

 

[MT15]

I'm going to quote you but this is for everyone. I'm a little confused by the variance in sentencing because this post ^ says he got 8 months
However, I was reading this

Capitol rioter with ties to White supremacist gang pleads guilty and is sentenced to 6 months in jail with credit for time served | CNN Politics

A US Capitol rioter who joined a White supremacist gang while in prison for attempted murder pleaded guilty Monday to a misdemeanor related to the January 6 insurrection.

www.cnn.com

and there the judge said the maximum he could sentence was 6 months

The rioter, Michael Curzio, was sentenced to six months in jail but will be released Wednesday because he has been in jail since mid-January and will receive credit for time already served.

"Mr. Curzio should be sentenced to the six-month statutory maximum," federal Judge Carl Nichols said at a hearing. "I am not in a position to be able to impose a longer sentence than that. I think that six-month sentence is appropriate here. Mr. Curzio will have, in two days, served that entire sentence."

Two different rioters, Curzio and Hodgkins.

 

[MT15]

Kudos to this reporter.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

IMO, we will see a bunch of these small sentences early on. The small fish will fry first.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Kudos to this reporter.

what was her response?

 

[zztop]

Two different rioters, Curzio and Hodgkins.

I get that lol, but my question was - why did one get 8 months, the other get 6 months, and the judge that gave the 6 month said that was the maximum? If so, how did the other person get 8 then?

 

[MT15]

I believe one was charged with a misdemeanor and the other was charged with a felony.

 

[zztop]

so...violating election code in an attempt to find election violations. Bold strategy

Pennsylvania decertifies county's voting machines after audit

The acting secretary of state said a private company violated the state's election code by reviewing the machines.

www.axios.com

Pennsylvania's acting Secretary of State Veronica Degraffenreid announced Wednesday she decertified Fulton County voting equipment for future elections after officials allowed a private company to examine the machines during an audit of the 2020 election, violating the state's election code.

 

[Dragon]

so...violating election code in an attempt to find election violations. Bold strategy

Pennsylvania decertifies county's voting machines after audit

The acting secretary of state said a private company violated the state's election code by reviewing the machines.

www.axios.com

Pennsylvania's acting Secretary of State Veronica Degraffenreid announced Wednesday she decertified Fulton County voting equipment for future elections after officials allowed a private company to examine the machines during an audit of the 2020 election, violating the state's election code.

How many of those audits are in fact the means to be able to examine the voting machines and discover potential flaws which can then be exploited during the next election ?