Trump Election Interference / Falsification of Business Records Criminal Trial (Trump guilty on all 34 Counts) (2 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

What will happen now that former President Donald Trump was found guilty (in 34 counts) by the jury?
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Speculation on the judge relating to sentencing?
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Appeals?
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Political Damage?
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Trump found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records. Here's a breakdown.

A New York jury unanimously found Donald Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, a stunning conclusion to the historic trial of the former president.

www.yahoo.com

 

[DaveXA]

Something I haven’t seen mentioned, and it just occurred to me. Perhaps it was discussed earlier and I missed it.

Michael Cohen has copies of the checks he was issued in 2017 reimbursing him
For the Stormy Daniels payment. Some are signed by Trump and some are signed by Don Jr.

Why was Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who had placed his businesses in a revocable trust, signing checks from that company?

I believe the checks were written before he became President, so I'm not sure that would apply. I could be wrong though.

Edit: Actually, written for "services rendered" prior to becoming Presidet.

 

[superchuck500]

LAST WARNING
The former president is all out of chances to avoid prison for violating his gag order, the judge said in court Monday morning as he found Trump in contempt one more time.

Justice Juan Merchan Gives Trump a Final Warning: Jail Is Next

The former president is all out of chances to avoid prison for violating his gag order, the judge said in court Monday morning as he found Trump in contempt one more time.

www.thedailybeast.com

“I’ll find you in criminal contempt for the tenth time,” Merchan said in a stark tone. “It appears that the $1,000 fines are not serving as a deterrent. Therefore, going forward, this court will have to consider a jail sanction. Mr. Trump, it’s important to understand the last thing I was to do is put you in jail. You are the former president of the United States, and possibly the next one as well.”

Trump keeps ignoring the judge’s order forbidding him from speaking publicly about witnesses and jurors in a menacing way, something the former president keeps doing anyway on social media. Merchan last week fined Trump $9,000 for nine separate violations of a previous gag order—a step he only took after making repeated warnings.

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Do you think he will stop or he will end up in jail over this?

I don’t think he can help himself. He doesn’t have any self-control.

If he wants to continue the "unfair/witch hunt" narrative, getting tossed in jail ( or home detention/removal of ability to post to social media as @superchuck500 mentioned on the NY case thread ) he will absolutely do it. If it stirs up his supporters and makes him look like a martyr, he all about self-promotion. Consequences be damned.

*Opens FanDuel acct to check odds

Sorry, I tried to merge this thread and it stuck the posts back in mid-April for some reason.

 

[BlueBayou56]

Newest Update :

LAST WARNING
The former president is all out of chances to avoid prison for violating his gag order, the judge said in court Monday morning as he found Trump in contempt one more time.

Justice Juan Merchan Gives Trump a Final Warning: Jail Is Next

The former president is all out of chances to avoid prison for violating his gag order, the judge said in court Monday morning as he found Trump in contempt one more time.

www.thedailybeast.com

“I’ll find you in criminal contempt for the tenth time,” Merchan said in a stark tone. “It appears that the $1,000 fines are not serving as a deterrent. Therefore, going forward, this court will have to consider a jail sanction. Mr. Trump, it’s important to understand the last thing I was to do is put you in jail. You are the former president of the United States, and possibly the next one as well.”

Trump keeps ignoring the judge’s order forbidding him from speaking publicly about witnesses and jurors in a menacing way, something the former president keeps doing anyway on social media. Merchan last week fined Trump $9,000 for nine separate violations of a previous gag order—a step he only took after making repeated warnings.

 

[MT15]

Something I haven’t seen mentioned, and it just occurred to me. Perhaps it was discussed earlier and I missed it.

Michael Cohen has copies of the checks he was issued in 2017 reimbursing him
For the Stormy Daniels payment. Some are signed by Trump and some are signed by Don Jr.

Why was Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who had placed his businesses in a revocable trust, signing checks from that company?

This occurred to me also today. There was a big dog and pony show about him turning over control of the business. Just another lie like the tens of thousands of other lies he has told.

 

[MT15]

Sorry, I tried to merge this thread and it stuck the posts back in mid-April for some reason.

Merge doesn’t work on here. At least not correctly, lol.

 

[MT15]

I believe the checks were written before he became President, so I'm not sure that would apply. I could be wrong though.

Edit: Actually, written for "services rendered" prior to becoming Presidet.

That shouldn’t matter when the services were rendered. Once you turn over control the kids should have been the ones taking over.

 

[DaveXA]

That shouldn’t matter when the services were rendered. Once you turn over control the kids should have been the ones taking over.

Yeah, I agree. Curious to see how it's framed in the courtroom.

 

[superchuck500]

Something I haven’t seen mentioned, and it just occurred to me. Perhaps it was discussed earlier and I missed it.

Michael Cohen has copies of the checks he was issued in 2017 reimbursing him
For the Stormy Daniels payment. Some are signed by Trump and some are signed by Don Jr.

Why was Donald Trump, the president of the United States, who had placed his businesses in a revocable trust, signing checks from that company?

That whole trust thing was pretty flimsy anyway.

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/20/576871315/trump-has-revealed-assumptions-about-handling-presidential-wealth-businesses

Trump Lawyer Confirms President Can Pull Money From His Businesses Whenever He Wants

Previously unreported changes to President Trump’s trust documents stipulate that the trust “shall distribute net income or principal to Donald J. Trump at his request.”

www.propublica.org

 

[Lapaz]

Newest Update :

LAST WARNING
The former president is all out of chances to avoid prison for violating his gag order, the judge said in court Monday morning as he found Trump in contempt one more time.

Justice Juan Merchan Gives Trump a Final Warning: Jail Is Next

The former president is all out of chances to avoid prison for violating his gag order, the judge said in court Monday morning as he found Trump in contempt one more time.

www.thedailybeast.com

“I’ll find you in criminal contempt for the tenth time,” Merchan said in a stark tone. “It appears that the $1,000 fines are not serving as a deterrent. Therefore, going forward, this court will have to consider a jail sanction. Mr. Trump, it’s important to understand the last thing I was to do is put you in jail. You are the former president of the United States, and possibly the next one as well.”

Trump keeps ignoring the judge’s order forbidding him from speaking publicly about witnesses and jurors in a menacing way, something the former president keeps doing anyway on social media. Merchan last week fined Trump $9,000 for nine separate violations of a previous gag order—a step he only took after making repeated warnings.

I imagine that Judge Merchan has to be worried about his future health if he jails Trump. It is sad to think that that could be the case.

 

[MT15]

Okay, if this is true, and Trump attends a campaign event instead of Barton’s graduation, would he be in trouble with the judge?

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[DaveXA]

Uh, ok, and?

 

[efil4]

Uh, ok, and?

$12,000 is his "smoking gun"

LOLOL. in 2018 - 6 years ago. $12,000. Not $120,000. Not $1,200,000....$12,000.

That article goes on to talk about how he received the payments on Jan 31 2018. Then" a few months later" the then DA Underwood files lawsuit against Trump Foundation . That was June 2018.

"In June 2018, just a few months after receiving the payments, then-New York District Attorney Barbara Underwood filed a lawsuit against the Trump Foundation claiming the then-president used charitable assets to pay legal obligations. Colangelo was executive deputy attorney general at the time."

LOL " Just a few months after receiving payments..."

it was 6. not 2. not 3. SIX.

When you pay attention to the verbiage used, you see the angle in which the article wants to portray.

This article was conceived and written in a way just for folks like @SaintForLife.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[efil4]

odds on gag order violation today?

 

[superchuck500]

$12,000 is his "smoking gun"

LOLOL. in 2018 - 6 years ago. $12,000. Not $120,000. Not $1,200,000....$12,000.

That article goes on to talk about how he received the payments on Jan 31 2018. Then" a few months later" the then DA Underwood files lawsuit against Trump Foundation . That was June 2018.

"In June 2018, just a few months after receiving the payments, then-New York District Attorney Barbara Underwood filed a lawsuit against the Trump Foundation claiming the then-president used charitable assets to pay legal obligations. Colangelo was executive deputy attorney general at the time."

LOL " Just a few months after receiving payments..."

it was 6. not 2. not 3. SIX.

When you pay attention to the verbiage used, you see the angle in which the article wants to portray.

This article was conceived and written in a way just for folks like @SaintForLife.

If he was paid at the end of January 2018, the work almost certainly occurred in the second half of 2017.

For whatever that’s worth - I’m not really sure what they’re insinuating. He’s trial attorney serving on a prosecution team. He’s not the judge. He’s not even the DA. He has a history of investigating and prosecuting cases against Trump, it’s not news that he thinks Trump is a criminal.

 

[DaveXA]

odds on gag order violation today?

Oh someone gonna be gagged alright.

What would be awesome is Trump flipping out when he sees her on the stand.

 

[efil4]

If he was paid at the end of January 2018, the work almost certainly occurred in the second half of 2017.

For whatever that’s worth - I’m not really sure what they’re insinuating. He’s trial attorney serving on a prosecution team. He’s not the judge. He’s not even the DA. He has a history of investigating and prosecuting cases against Trump, it’s not news that he thinks Trump is a criminal.

they are attempting to connect $12,000 payment by DNC = Underwood filing charges against Trump Foundation ( while Colangalo was deputy DA ) = Colangalo is bought and paid for by Democrats.

Its absolutely crazy to think this $12,000 payment in any way is somehow related to the current proceedings, but for some, its just more proof that this is all orchestrated by Biden/Dems etc. It HAS to be. They know Trump is a criminal, but he is THEIR criminal.