Trump Election Interference / Falsification of Business Records Criminal Trial (Trump guilty on all 34 Counts) (2 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

What will happen now that former President Donald Trump was found guilty (in 34 counts) by the jury?
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Speculation on the judge relating to sentencing?
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Appeals?
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Political Damage?
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Trump found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records. Here's a breakdown.

A New York jury unanimously found Donald Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, a stunning conclusion to the historic trial of the former president.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

how can the "smartest guy in the world" be so dumb?

 

[fooferdoggie]

how can the "smartest guy in the world" be so dumb?

it works for him we see him as dumb but he is not paying to us he is playing to the idiots that love to believe him.

 

[J-DONK]

This guy ….. . Seriously, sounds like someone’s lawyer found a way to convince him not to testify.

Dude really does have the comprehension of a 6th grader.

 

[superchuck500]

Trump always has a right to testify in his own defense. If he claims he was denied that right it’s a mistrial. He is out there saying he’s not allowed to testify and his lawyer is nodding along. The judge needs to address this right away.

I don't think that his argument for a mistrial under the circumstances would be persuasive - he's clearly a sophisticated defendant with highly-paid lawyers and has been apprised by the court of his rights and risks in taking the stand in his own defense.

That said, I think you're right that with his lawyer standing next to him as he says that - and makes no effort to correct what is clearly a false claim about his own testimony - it would bear a very brief address by the court for the record.

 

[efil4]

Dude really does have the comprehension of a 6th grader.

Its totally calculated and he knows who is is talking to. He doesnt articulate well because he doesnt have to. His audience isnt interested in wordy, explanatory replies.

His comprehension is fine. Its the delivery we get caught up on as a reflection of his "smarts" when its really all about his audience. Thats who has the comprehension of a 6th grader.

Just think about how a 6th grade teacher speaks to their classroom, then you get the picture.

 

[superchuck500]

Its totally calculated and he knows who is is talking to. He doesnt articulate well because he doesnt have to. His audience isnt interested in wordy, explanatory replies.

His comprehension is fine. Its the delivery we get caught up on as a reflection of his "smarts" when its really all about his audience. Thats who has the comprehension of a 6th grader.

Just think about how a 6th grade teacher speaks to their classroom, then you get the picture.

Maybe. But this is also the same guy who genuinely asked if we could nuke a hurricane or inject disinfectant into our bodies (because you know, it work really well on countertops).

 

[efil4]

Maybe. But this is also the same guy who genuinely asked if we could nuke a hurricane or inject disinfectant into our bodies (because you know, it work really well on countertops).

this is also true. LOL

But i believe when it comes to "self promotion" he is astutely aware of who he needs to be/how perceived at a particular moment.

 

[coldseat]

Trump always has a right to testify in his own defense. If he claims he was denied that right it’s a mistrial. He is out there saying he’s not allowed to testify and his lawyer is nodding along. The judge needs to address this right away.

I don't think that his argument for a mistrial under the circumstances would be persuasive - he's clearly a sophisticated defendant with highly-paid lawyers and has been apprised by the court of his rights and risks in taking the stand in his own defense.

That said, I think you're right that with his lawyer standing next to him as he says that - and makes no effort to correct what is clearly a false claim about his own testimony - it would bear a very brief address by the court for the record.

You were both right. Judge Merchan addressed it this morning.

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Judge to Trump: Gag order doesn't "prevent you from testifying in any way"​

Judge Juan Merchan is beginning court today by clarifying to Donald Trump that he has the "absolute" right to testify if he chooses.
Merchan says he is doing this to clarify the gag order.

"The order restricting extrajudicial statements does not prevent you from testifying in any way," Merchan says. "It does not prohibit you from taking the stand and it does not limit or minimize what you can say."

The judge did not rule on the additional alleged gag order violations brought against Trump.
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Hope Hicks testifies in Donald Trump’s hush money trial | CNN Politics

Former President Donald Trump’s hush money trial continues in New York.

www.cnn.com

 

[efil4]

You were both right. Judge Merchan addressed it this morning.

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Judge to Trump: Gag order doesn't "prevent you from testifying in any way"​

Judge Juan Merchan is beginning court today by clarifying to Donald Trump that he has the "absolute" right to testify if he chooses.
Merchan says he is doing this to clarify the gag order.



The judge did not rule on the additional alleged gag order violations brought against Trump.
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Hope Hicks testifies in Donald Trump’s hush money trial | CNN Politics

Former President Donald Trump’s hush money trial continues in New York.

www.cnn.com

that settles that. lol.

Now will he return to the "Barricade podium" today and let his followers know that he was mistaken and in fact can testify?

nah. lol

 

[fooferdoggie]

that settles that. lol.

Now will he return to the "Barricade podium" today and let his followers know that he was mistaken and in fact can testify?

nah. lol

they only hear the parts they want to hear. poor trump he was gagged with a basketball gag.

 

[SaintForLife]

On his way into the Manhattan courtroom where he is being tried on 34 felony charges, former president Donald Trump on Tuesday spoke to reporters about another of his indictments, the one obtained by special counsel Jack Smith in Florida related to Trump’s possession of documents with classification markings.

“You probably saw last night that Jack Smith got caught with his hand in the cookie jar,” Trump said as part of a lengthy excoriation of prosecutors and President Biden. “It was released late last night, and it’s a big story. The documents case is a hoax created by them for election interference purposes. And so that one looks like it’s going asunder. A brilliant judge saw some facts and — I haven’t read what was revealed yet, it just came out. But the document hoax is indeed — it is indeed a hoax.”

If there was a big story about the documents case released Monday night, it escaped the notice of much of the traditional media. But there is a rumor rumbling around the right-wing media universe in which Biden and officials in his administration are accused of framing Trump on the Florida allegations. And, as is often the case with rumors that course through that universe, the claim being made is obviously not true.

This one was first elevated by Julie Kelly, a right-wing commentator whose efforts generally focus on defenses of individuals charged with participating in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot. On Saturday morning, she shared a snippet of a court filing on social media.

“WELL WELL WELL I am pretty sure we never heard this part of the ‘classified documents/box’ story!” she wrote. Referring to an image of text, she asserted that an “FBI agent says [General Services Administration] was holding large quantity of Trump’s boxes in VA and then ordered his team to come get them. I am sure NOTHING hanky [sic] happened there …”

The image, which doesn’t identify the speaker, references “six pallets of items, boxes I believe” that the GSA contacted Trump’s post-presidential office about having shipped. In a subsequent post, Kelly posted an image from an interview with someone identified as “Person 10,” in which that individual indicated that they’d seen a pallet with bankers’ boxes — like those featured in photos from Mar-a-Lago.

“So an entire pallet full of boxes that had been held by GSA somewhere outside of DC is dumped at Mar-a-Lago,” Kelly wrote. “Apparently these are the boxes that ended up containing papers with ‘classified markings.’”

Off the allegation went. The right-wing website ZeroHedge picked it up, as did filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza. A narrative was born.

Before we assess the validity of the claim, it’s important to point out that even if Kelly’s presentation were accurate, the result would not be to exonerate Trump. The boxes mentioned in Kelly’s post were delivered to Mar-a-Lago in mid-September 2021. It wasn’t until January 2022 that material was shipped back to the National Archives after Trump (according to the indictment) personally went through the material.

Understanding that not everything had been returned, the Justice Department obtained a warrant demanding the return of anything with classification markings, regardless of whether they were still classified. Trump failed to do so. When the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago, it found material marked as classified in a storage room and Trump’s office.

None of those subsequent issues are dependent on how the material got to Mar-a-Lago, nor are the issues in the superseding indictment focused on an alleged effort to keep the government from obtaining surveillance footage.

But, again, Kelly’s story is false.

It’s not clear what document she was posting images from; she didn’t link it in her social media posts. There was an excerpt of the interview with Person 10 released last week, but it doesn’t include the discussion of pallets. It does, however, make obvious who was being interviewed: an employee of Trump’s post-presidential office who began working there in July 2021. That employee was at the center of another discovery of documents marked as classified several months after the Mar-a-Lago search.

The interview with Person 10, though, doesn't matter. What matters is why there were pallets of material in Virginia and how they got to Mar-a-Lago. And we already know the answer to that, because The Washington Post reported on it in December 2022...............

MSN

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/30/trump-documents-case-rumor-false/

Philip Bump wrote that article. I remember him well.

 

[DaveXA]

Philip Bump wrote that article. I remember him well.

 

[SaintForLife]

Is this accurate?



But no conspiracy is charged against Trump in the indictment, and there is no conspiracy statute in New York law that criminalizes a 'secret plot' to help a candidate suppress politically damaging information.'

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Is this accurate?



But no conspiracy is charged against Trump in the indictment, and there is no conspiracy statute in New York law that criminalizes a 'secret plot' to help a candidate suppress politically damaging information.'

so we gonna go off a PROBABLY?
that's you basis, a PROBABLY? LOL

 

[efil4]

Is this accurate?



But no conspiracy is charged against Trump in the indictment, and there is no conspiracy statute in New York law that criminalizes a 'secret plot' to help a candidate suppress politically damaging information.'

let me help you since you're like a newborn fawn when it comes to gathering pertinent information

There is no "conspiracy" law...hence why he wasnt charged with "conspiracy" - but there are OTHER LAWS ( OMGZ for real?!?! ) that he possibly broke and THATS what they charged him with. Ergo, we are now at trial by jury of peers to determine if he did indeed break those laws.

District Attorney Bragg Announces 34-Count Felony Indictment of Former President Donald J. Trump

“The People of the State of New York allege that Donald J. Trump repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal crimes that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election,” said District Attorney Bragg. “Manhattan is home to the coun

manhattanda.org

 

[efil4]

so we gonna go off a PROBABLY?
that's you basis, a PROBABLY? LOL

its 174 characters or less....absolutely.

He aint gots no time to be readin all dat...

 

[DaveXA]

Is this accurate?



But no conspiracy is charged against Trump in the indictment, and there is no conspiracy statute in New York law that criminalizes a 'secret plot' to help a candidate suppress politically damaging information.'

I'm gonna dumb it all the way down for you.

No.

 

[SaintForLife]

let me help you since you're like a newborn fawn when it comes to gathering pertinent information

There is no "conspiracy" law...hence why he wasnt charged with "conspiracy" - but there are OTHER LAWS ( OMGZ for real?!?! ) that he possibly broke and THATS what they charged him with. Ergo, we are now at trial by jury of peers to determine if he did indeed break those laws.

District Attorney Bragg Announces 34-Count Felony Indictment of Former President Donald J. Trump

“The People of the State of New York allege that Donald J. Trump repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal crimes that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election,” said District Attorney Bragg. “Manhattan is home to the coun

manhattanda.org

I looked at the indictment and every charge is Falsifying business records in the 1st degree.

Falsifying business records in NY is a misdemeanor and the statute of limitations ran out in 2019.

It can be upgraded to a felony to falsify business records if you also have the intent to further or conceal another criminal offense and the statute of limitations is for 5 years and it ran out in 2022. They were only able to charge Trump in 2023 because NY extended their statute of limitations due to Covid.

What's the other criminal offense that is alleged? Election Interference? He's not charged with that.