Right wing nuts thread (3 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but we need a thread for the wing nuts. Lauren Boebert.

 

[wardorican]

Rep. Rich McCormick, R-Ga., on Tuesday defended the impacts of the White House's federal aid freeze on school lunch programs by suggesting that some children should be working instead of receiving free lunch.

During an interview on CNN, McCormick praised the move as a way to broadly re-evaluate how the government allocates funding. CNN Anchor Pamela Brown noted that Head Start, which helps provide nutritional assistance to low-income children and families, is one of the programs that could be affected. She pressed McCormick on whether he would support cutting funding for free breakfast and lunches.

"Before I was even 13 years old, I was picking berries in the field, before child labor laws that precluded that. I was a paper boy, and when I was in high school, I worked my entire way through," McCormick said. "You’re telling me that kids who stay at home instead of going to work at Burger King, McDonald’s, during the summer, should stay at home and get their free lunch instead of going to work? I think we need to have a top-down review."

McCormick, who was speaking from Doral, Florida, where House Republicans are holding their annual issues conference, said that the pause on federal funds gives the government a chance to "see where is the money really being spent."

"Who can actually go and actually produce their own income? Who can actually go out there and do something that makes them have value and work skills for the future?" McCormick said..............

Republican congressman suggests some children receiving free school lunches should work at McDonald’s instead

Rep. Rich McCormick said that the freeze on federal aid would allow the government to review all programs including ones that provide free school lunches to low-income children.

www.nbcnews.com

What about 6 yr Olds?

 

[wardorican]

Upcoming right wing outrage/boycott du jour
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Conservative pundits found themselves in an online clash Tuesday with an unlikely demographic – Marvel fans – after calling for a boycott of the upcoming blockbuster Captain America: Brave New World.

The bust-up began following comments made by the movie’s star, Anthony Mackie, during a recent promotion for the film, in which he described the eponymous protagonist as a man with “honor, dignity and integrity,” and that such qualities did not currently represent America.

"For me Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don’t think the term ‘America’ should be one of those representations,” Mackie said. “It’s about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity and integrity. Someone who is trustworthy and dependable.”

The viral clip was quick to anger Republicans, who called for the movie to be boycotted, with some going so far as to describe it as “woke garbage.” Conservative political commentator Dan Bongino shared a clip on X of Mackie’s remarks and wrote: "Another s*** movie I won’t be seeing."

Todd Erzen of BlazeTV’s Steve Deace Show added: "You should mock and boycott him just as mercilessly as you would Selena Gomez. His movie needs to pay the price for his disrespect."……….

Marvel star says ‘honorable’ Captain America is not so American any more

The bust-up began after Anthony Mackie described the eponymous protagonist as a man with ‘honor, dignity and integrity’ and that such qualities did not currently represent America

www.independent.co.uk

Captain America was always a symbol of what American should or could be. The best qualities. Never a reflection of reality.

 

[TampaJoe]

Captain America was always a symbol of what American should or could be. The best qualities. Never a reflection of reality.

That is all true. What is also true is that those who produced the film probably want as broad an audience as possible. It’s a business after all. The actor in question should be mindful about publicly expressing views which might alienate a great many people who might otherwise see the film. He is being paid to be an actor after all. I’m not all that interested in his political points of view.

That said. I don’t believe in boycotts over political speech. But there are others who do and they have that right. I will be interested to see how that film does in light of his statements.

 

[coldseat]

That is all true. What is also true is that those who produced the film probably want as broad an audience as possible. It’s a business after all. The actor in question should be mindful about publicly expressing views which might alienate a great many people who might otherwise see the film. He is being paid to be an actor after all. I’m not all that interested in his political points of view.

That said. I don’t believe in boycotts over political speech. But there are others who do and they have that right. I will be interested to see how that film does in light of his statements.

Meh. He's speaking the truth. If people can't handle it, oh well.

I have a feeling right wing boycotts are played out. They worked initially during all of the ant-trans, anti-CRT and anti-DEI hysteria. But I think the more people see of this right wing government and their extremism, the more they will be ignored. Their last few attempts haven't exactly played out. The right wing are the most reactionary group of cry babies ever.

 

[TampaJoe]

Meh. He's speaking the truth. If people can't handle it, oh well.

I have a feeling right wing boycotts are played out. They worked initially during all of the ant-trans, anti-CRT and anti-DEI hysteria. But I think the more people see of this right wing government and their extremism, the more they will be ignored. Their last few attempts haven't exactly played out. The right wing are the most reactionary group of cry babies ever.

He is giving his political opinion. You consider it true. That’s his right and yours. As Insaid other folks may not agree. If I were an investor in the film, I don’t know that I would give a crap what his political opinion might be. If he wants the freedom to use that platform to state his personal view, perhaps he should fund and produce his own films. Put his own money on the line. Unless I miss my guess he is being paid as an actor and NOT as a political commentator.

So I dunno what will happen to this film. I just think it’s reckless and selfish on his part to alienate potential movie goers just to make his political point.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

If the movie is good and entertaining, it will do well. If it's bad/boring it won't. That's basically it -- movies don't fail or succeed b/c they're too woke or not.

 

[coldseat]

He is giving his political opinion. You consider it true. That’s his right and yours. As Insaid other folks may not agree. If I were an investor in the film, I don’t know that I would give a crap what his political opinion might be. If he wants the freedom to use that platform to state his personal view, perhaps he should fund and produce his own films. Put his own money on the line. Unless I miss my guess he is being paid as an actor and NOT as a political commentator.

So I dunno what will happen to this film. I just think it’s reckless and selfish on his part to alienate potential movie goers just to make his political point.

His comment was about the contrast between Captain America and the USA as a country, it wasn't even political. Didn't make any mention of Republicans, right wingers, Trump or conservatives or the current government. It literally could apply to the whole history of the US government. In the last two Captain America movies, it was Captain America fighting against the US government. But of course, right wingers have to clutch their pearls. The "woke" hysteria backlash is dead anyway.

Did you even think that maybe he made that comment to give all of the people who aren't feeling great about the USA right now a reason to go see the movie, thus making it more palatable to a larger audience? Of course you didn't, since only right wingers matter in this country currently.

The right wing isn't going to scare anybody except politicians from speaking the truth. The more they outrage, the less attention people pay to them. So let them keep doing it over everything.

Also, by any definition Captain America is "woke" af. He's the white guy that right wingers love to hate.

 

[TampaJoe]

His comment was about the contrast between Captain America and the USA as a country, it wasn't even political. Didn't make any mention of Republicans, right wingers, Trump or conservatives or the current government. It literally could apply to the whole history of the US government. In the last two Captain America movies, it was Captain America fighting against the US government. But of course, right wingers have to clutch their pearls. The "woke" hysteria backlash is dead anyway.

Did you even think that maybe he made that comment to give all of the people who aren't feeling great about the USA right now a reason to go see the movie, thus making it more palatable to a larger audience? Of course you didn't, since only right wingers matter in this country currently.

The right wing isn't going to scare anybody except politicians from speaking the truth. The more they outrage, the less attention people pay to them. So let them keep doing it over everything.

Yeah I’m sure it wasn’t meant to be a political comment. I’m sure he was just trying to market the film to as broad an audience as possible and that the films financial backers are happy to have his extensive marketing expertise working on their behalf. I

I bet they has nothing to say.

 

[coldseat]

Yeah I’m sure it wasn’t meant to be a political comment. I’m sure he was just trying to market the film to as broad an audience as possible and that the films financial backers are happy to have his extensive marketing expertise working on their behalf. I

I bet they has nothing to say.

Why is that? Because he's black? Or because he's an actor? Or because we can't react to what he actually said and we have to "assume" what he meant and that it was an attack against MAGA.

I'm sure there's a good reason somewhere in there. Or maybe we should just react with outrage because it's fun. Mackie should have just stayed in his place, amIright!

 

[TampaJoe]

Why is that? Because he's black? Or because he's an actor? Or because we can't react to what he actually said and we have to "assume" what he meant and that it was an attack against MAGA.

I'm sure there's a good reason somewhere in there. Or maybe we should just react with outrage because it's fun. Mackie should have just stayed in his place, amIrigtht!

You can shove that racist bs up your butt. It has nothing to do with race. It that your “go to” retort anytime people disagree with you? It’s tired and doesn’t work anymore.

 

[Sendai]

"For me Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don’t think the term ‘America’ should be one of those representations,” Mackie said. “It’s about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity and integrity. Someone who is trustworthy and dependable.”

What he is saying is that the concept of captain America should go beyond America to the whole world.

Works for me

 

[J-DONK]

You can shove that racist bs up your butt. It has nothing to do with race. It that your “go to” retort anytime people disagree with you? It’s tired and doesn’t work anymore.

This is the quote again "For me Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don’t think the term ‘America’ should be one of those representations,” Mackie said. “It’s about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity and integrity. Someone who is trustworthy and dependable"

He is saying Captain America doesn't actually represent America. I think it's wierd because of the name of the character, and the outfit he wears. It's no different then when Superman dropped "American way".

It is 100% silly outrage bait. Give you something to talk about instead of cutting student loans, and medicaid.

 

[coldseat]

You can shove that racist bs up your butt. It has nothing to do with race. It that your “go to” retort anytime people disagree with you? It’s tired and doesn’t work anymore.

Lol, there were several reasons given in there that were all posed as questions, but you chose to focus only on the race one. Sensitive much?

 

[RobF]

Why is that? Because he's black? Or because he's an actor? Or because we can't react to what he actually said and we have to "assume" what he meant and that it was an attack against MAGA.

I'm sure there's a good reason somewhere in there. Or maybe we should just react with outrage because it's fun. Mackie should have just stayed in his place, amIrigtht!

And the producer of the film has previously said, "It's the notion of a guy who believes an ideal, realizing that ideal is not always held up to the same standards by other people, and feeling really betrayed by where the American government had gone." This is a core premise of the nature of the character; that the nation doesn't always match up to the ideals symbolised by Captain America.

And honestly, if the current reality reflects that more so than not, I don't think actors can be blamed for vaguely alluding to that. If people don't like it, maybe they should work harder to move the country in the right direction. I am so tired with the, "Let us do bad things that go badly, but don't you dare make us feel bad about it," brigade.

 

[Optimus Prime]

This is the quote again "For me Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don’t think the term ‘America’ should be one of those representations,” Mackie said. “It’s about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity and integrity. Someone who is trustworthy and dependable"

He is saying Captain America doesn't actually represent America. I think it's wierd because of the name of the character, and the outfit he wears. It's no different then when Superman dropped "American way".

It is 100% silly outrage bait. Give you something to talk about instead of cutting student loans, and medicaid.

I seem to recall a minor controversy when the Brandon Routh Superman Returns dropped American Way

 

[J-DONK]

I seem to recall a minor controversy when the Brandon Routh Superman Returns dropped American Way

Probably, and Sendia is right it's probably rooted in trying to appeal to a global audience vs a domestic. The domestic movie market is smaller then the international.

Captain America: Civil War

www.boxofficemojo.com

Domestic (35.4%)
$408,084,349
International (64.6%)
$745,211,944
Worldwide
$1,153,296,293

 

[TampaJoe]

Lol, there were several reasons given in there that were all posed as questions, but you chose to focus only on the race one. Sensitive much?

You lead with that. It didn’t even deserve mention. It’s just an oft used vacant retort that is over used and worn out and means nothing anymore. To some, every disagreement is somehow racist.

Up your game.

 

[TampaJoe]

And the producer of the film has previously said, "It's the notion of a guy who believes an ideal, realizing that ideal is not always held up to the same standards by other people, and feeling really betrayed by where the American government had gone." This is a core premise of the nature of the character; that the nation doesn't always match up to the ideals symbolised by Captain America.

And honestly, if the current reality reflects that more so than not, I don't think actors can be blamed for vaguely alluding to that. If people don't like it, maybe they should work harder to move the country in the right direction. I am so tired with the, "Let us do bad things that go badly, but don't you dare make us feel bad about it," brigade.

This is what was posted above:

The bust-up began following comments made by the movie’s star, Anthony Mackie, during a recent promotion for the film, in which he described the eponymous protagonist as a man with “honor, dignity and integrity,” and that such qualities did not currently represent America.

Bolding is mine.

If that is what he said, then reasonable people could read that as an insult to American men.

So others may consider that shrewd marketing. I disagree.