House Select Committee Hearings on Jan. 6 (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

Let’s put our discussion in this thread we can use it for all the hearings.

 

[samiam5211]

The most shocking part of today’s testimony was that Trump wasted food in a fit of rage.

 

[Incumbent]

I don't know the answer to that question. It's sensible, but do they really have authority to "override" the president's direct instruction?

Best I found quickly, but uncertain about the source.

By law, the Secret Service can override the President. The President communicates with the Secret Service about what he would like to do or where he wants to go. It is then up to the Secret Service to determine if it is a risk to national security for the President to do so. If not, a protection plan is formulated and executed by Secret Service agents.

Can the Secret Service Override the President? - Civil Service HQ

Wherever the President goes, the Secret Service is there. ... Read more

civilservicehq.com

 

[superchuck500]

Best I found quickly, but uncertain about the source.

By law, the Secret Service can override the President. The President communicates with the Secret Service about what he would like to do or where he wants to go. It is then up to the Secret Service to determine if it is a risk to national security for the President to do so. If not, a protection plan is formulated and executed by Secret Service agents.

Can the Secret Service Override the President? - Civil Service HQ

Wherever the President goes, the Secret Service is there. ... Read more

civilservicehq.com

Cool.

 

[Incumbent]

'Between a rock and a hard place': Can the Secret Service say no to a president?

'Between a rock and a hard place' can the Secret Service say no to a President?

abcnews.go.com

Reporting from ABC that it's possible for the Secret Service to say no, in coverage of Trump saying it happened on a trip to Paris. But also the article has a good view of an SUV like the one from 1/6.

 

[superchuck500]

Little side tidbit - we saw today how they come up with "blame Antifa!" as a strategy, when trying to figure out how to respond to this stuff. Literally choosing gaslighting as the plan.

Meadows supported that approach. What a horrible human being.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Can Secret Service override the president's commands if they believe there is a serious threat to his safety? They would have been transporting him to a location that hadn't been previously screened after knowing there were armed people in the crowd.

I'm going to try to find it, but I remember reading a while back that the SS can override a presidential order if they feel the action would put his life in jeopardy.

Also, I think this is the reason why Biden hasn't visited Kyiv yet. Biden literally said they didn't feel it was safe to do so.

 

[Saintamaniac]

Best I found quickly, but uncertain about the source.

By law, the Secret Service can override the President. The President communicates with the Secret Service about what he would like to do or where he wants to go. It is then up to the Secret Service to determine if it is a risk to national security for the President to do so. If not, a protection plan is formulated and executed by Secret Service agents.

Can the Secret Service Override the President? - Civil Service HQ

Wherever the President goes, the Secret Service is there. ... Read more

civilservicehq.com

Good information @Incumbent

I don't know the answer to that question. It's sensible, but do they really have authority to "override" the president's direct instruction?

If the SS knew what trump was asking them to do was a crime or would lead to a crime, I would think they would not do what they were being asked to do.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

It's been said before and I'll repeat it myself. If Garland doesn't move on this, it's a travesty to our democracy...

However, I imagine the Fulton County DA has to be licking her chops at all of this.

 

[MT15]

Seems it may be true - the rumors that Fox has turned on Trump:

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

I laughed -

 

[MT15]

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Speaking of which... Who signed up as a member?

 

[Optimus Prime]

He's forking done.

This is the 733rd time we all thought this since 2015

But maybe 733rd time’s a charm

 

[FullMonte]

And this, lol:

I don't want to get too far off track in this thread...but the hilarity of this thing is how damning that voicemail is to Joe Biden. For all who haven't had a chance to read up on it, here is the voicemail that is going to destroy Joe Biden, RE: his knowledge of his son Hunter's business dealings.

"Hey pal, it’s Dad. It’s 8:15 on Wednesday night. If you get a chance, just give me a call. Nothing urgent. I just wanted to talk to you. I thought the article released online, it’s going to be printed tomorrow in the Times, was good, I think you’re clear. And anyway if you get a chance, give me a call, I love you."

 

[Optimus Prime]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/06/28/trump-secret-service-clinton/

 

[Optimus Prime]

I honestly don’t know what would be a bigger gut punch

Trump running and winning

Or, DOJ “for the good of the nation” deciding not to charge anyone with anything

 

[Optimus Prime]

Why don’t you print the whole unredacted message!

"Hey pal, it’s Dad. It’s 8:15 on Wednesday night. If you get a chance, just give me a call. Nothing urgent. I just wanted to talk to you. I thought the article released online, it’s going to be printed tomorrow in the Times, was good, I think you’re clear. (You got away scot free of all the evil and corrupt things you did) And anyway if you get a chance, give me a call, (and don’t forget you owe me, I had to pay off a lot people and threatened to kill a few more to make this go away) I love you. (Long live China! Forever America’s superiors!)