General Election 2024 Biden vs Trump (5 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

As we head toward the summer and the National Party Conventions, it might be handy to have a thread focused on the upcoming matchup of current President Biden vs Former President Trump.
As of April 28,2024 , CNN's poll shows Trump leading. Yet polls are not always accurate and they are constantly changing.
Feel free to use this thread for all things relating to Biden vs Trump.
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CNN Poll: Trump maintains lead over Biden in 2024 matchup as views on their presidencies diverge

Donald Trump continues to hold an advantage over President Joe Biden as the campaign – and Trump’s criminal trial – move forward, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. And in the coming rematch, opinions about the first term of each man vying for a second four years in the White House...

www.yahoo.com

 

[J-DONK]

Even if all of this is true, I should point Kamala is the massive favorite in an open convention. These are all delegates loyal to Biden, and the only candidate most them will have met is Harris.

They might be tempted to do an open covention as well with the RNC being a dud so far.

 

[MT15]

So you get your and Trump’s wish. I suppose you will gloat all over the board.

 

[Greg]

So you get your and Trump’s wish. I suppose you will gloat all over the board.

The reason this is happening is because everyone is telling Biden Trump is going to beat him.

 

[J-DONK]

The reason this is happening is because everyone is telling Biden Trump is going to beat him.

Yeah for MT15 to be right: Pelosi, Obama, Jeffries, and Schumer would have to be wrong.

 

[MT15]

The reason this is happening is because everyone is telling Biden Trump is going to beat him.

Yeah, in some ways that’s true, but it’s not the entire story.

Now that Trump will have to run against someone younger, more articulate and well, smarter than he is, he may rue that he pushed so hard to get Biden out of the race.

 

[MT15]

Yeah for MT15 to be right: Pelosi, Obama, Jeffries, and Schumer would have to be wrong.

The honest truth is that big donors pushed Biden out. I sure hope the democrats have a good plan for this because this is a pretty good sized risk.

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[not2rich]

The honest truth is that big donors pushed Biden out. I sure hope the democrats have a good plan for this because this is a pretty good sized risk.

I think it’s more Democratic congress members who are worried about the electoral chances of their own.

I hope there’s a plan too, and it is a risk. Pretending the status quo is fine, and that Biden is capable of mounting an effective campaign despite the evidence we’ve seen the past 3 weeks, is arguably a greater risk. And it’s arguably simply either delusion or resignation.

 

[SamAndreas]

I asked Google: What has happened to Mark Halperin?

Google answered:

Mark Halperin, the former top political commentator who was fired from NBC under a cloud of scandal, is leaving his current position as a senior communications adviser to the bipartisan group No Labels, the organization confirmed. Halperin had been No Labels' highest-paid employee after joining the group in 2021.

I will clarify that because Google's answer is a dated, he left No Labels about a year ago after being forced out.

He runs a YouTube stand now. He's at the RNC Convention sitting in his YouTube. With a red hat.

 

[J-DONK]

I think it’s more Democratic congress members who are worried about the electoral chances of their own.

I hope there’s a plan too, and it is a risk. Pretending the status quo is fine, and that Biden is capable of mounting an effective campaign despite the evidence we’ve seen the past 3 weeks, is arguably a greater risk. And it’s arguably simply either delusion or resignation.

Yup, it's polls. His campaign is done. If he continues on, it's pure ego, and arrogance. The damage to his campaign via his own party. He will never recover from.

It's all on him too. They gave him 3 weeks post debate to pull it together.

Also, this was done with grace. Everyone invovled tried to do this behind closed doors. This stubborn mule refused.

 

[SamAndreas]

Yup, it's polls. His campaign is done. If he continues on, it's pure ego, and arrogance. The damage to his campaign via his own party. He will never recover from.

It's all on him too. They gave him 3 weeks post debate to pull it together.

Also, this was done with grace. Everyone invovled tried to do this behind closed doors. This stubborn mule refused.

I kind of like this post. It reassured me that Biden will stand tall.

The thing is, I'm a stubborn mule.

And you pointed out to me that Biden is also a stubborn mule. So now I know how this will turn out.

<< these things all look the same, this one is the "Big Grin."

 

[MT15]

I think it’s more Democratic congress members who are worried about the electoral chances of their own.

I hope there’s a plan too, and it is a risk. Pretending the status quo is fine, and that Biden is capable of mounting an effective campaign despite the evidence we’ve seen the past 3 weeks, is arguably a greater risk. And it’s arguably simply either delusion or resignation.

Let me assure you - the donors have played a pretty huge role in this. And there’s no greater risk imo than giving up the incumbency this late in the election cycle.

They better have a plan, and a brokered convention with all that chaos isn’t it.

 

[not2rich]

Let me assure you - the donors have played a pretty huge role in this. And there’s no greater risk imo than giving up the incumbency this late in the election cycle.

They better have a plan, and a brokered convention with all that chaos isn’t it.

What good is the incumbency if a significant majority of voters don’t think you’re capable of making it through another 4 years?

 

[Greg]

The question is who can beat this meat

 

[not2rich]

The question is who can beat this meat

I’d vote for those steaks to be President over Trump.

 

[SamAndreas]

Let me assure you - the donors have played a pretty huge role in this. And there’s no greater risk imo than giving up the incumbency this late in the election cycle.

They better have a plan, and a brokered convention with all that chaos isn’t it.

I almost agree fully with you.

But they better not have had a plan if we wind up in a brokered convention. It would have been their plan that got us there. It would be their fault.



If they get the candidate they want through a brokered convention they engineered, and that candidate is not Harris, I will write in Harris.

Probably won't matter to anyone but me, I am from California after all.

I will support in latter years people who will primary the current party leadership who had a role in this, no matter what state they are from. I will.

This would be very corrupt if it does happen.

 

[SamAndreas]

What good is the incumbency if a significant majority of voters don’t think you’re capable of making it through another 4 years?

You could have placed that question mark after that word "incumbency" and not typed in the rest of it. The rest of that didn't change the meaning.

 

[MT15]

What good is the incumbency if a significant majority of voters don’t think you’re capable of making it through another 4 years?

Almost nobody who is going to vote for Biden actually cares, IMO. They know he’s old. They just don’t want Trump in there.