General Election 2024 Biden vs Trump (2 Viewers)

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    SteveSBrickNJ

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    As we head toward the summer and the National Party Conventions, it might be handy to have a thread focused on the upcoming matchup of current President Biden vs Former President Trump.
    As of April 28,2024 , CNN's poll shows Trump leading. Yet polls are not always accurate and they are constantly changing.
    Feel free to use this thread for all things relating to Biden vs Trump.
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    The Trump campaign has been comically overstating his crowds at these rallies. Sometimes by a factor of 10 - it’s that bad. MAGA adherents online also like to claim nobody would ever go see Biden. This guy found a venue that they have both used - Trump recently, Biden in 2022. See the difference?


    This is why I take the fundraising numbers with a grain of salt

    “We raised a billion dollars last month!!”

    What’s the actual number when they have to file an accurate accounting
     
    More easily disproved lies - all because one man’s ego needs constant fluffing:


    But, but, HIS EO's were needed and is what the people want... lol...
    But Trump is the one who literally said he would use EO like a dictator if elected..
    Jeez.. he "drained the swamp of the snakes and rats" but brought in Cocs, tarantulas, and scorpions....
     
    But, but, HIS EO's were needed and is what the people want... lol...
    But Trump is the one who literally said he would use EO like a dictator if elected..
    Jeez.. he "drained the swamp of the snakes and rats" but brought in Cocs, tarantulas, and scorpions....
    Pythons, snapping turtles, water moccasins, sharks, orcas, moray eels…
     
    Interesting, hope this is true. Of course there is a cadre of crazy RW billionaires who are all-in.

     
    Donald Trump has a history of fiery calls urging supporters to rise up, and his most militant fans often have obliged.


    So it might seem counterintuitive that now, as Trump faces unprecedented legal problems and a close election in November, the nation is experiencing a lull in political unrest — in fact, one of the quietest periods that extremism researchers have recorded in recent years.


    Chief among the factors explaining the lack of political violence, analysts say, is a simple one: Trump’s supporters believe he will win the presidency.


    Trump himself has contributed to that certainty by insisting the only way he can lose is if the other side cheats. There’s little reason for pro-Trump extremist groups or radicalized MAGA fans to demonstrate when they foresee the presumptive Republican nominee coasting to victory over President Biden in five months and positioned to enact promised “retribution” against his enemies in seven, political violence trackers say.


    Polling shows a tight race: Trump and Biden are roughly tied among registered voters nationally, with Trump tending to hold small leads in several of the all-important battleground states that Biden won four years ago.

    But in the eyes of many Trump backers, he is almost certain to prevail if the vote is fair. Their confidence carries risk: Experts warn that should Trump lose, the gap between expectation and reality could make for a highly combustible period after the election.


    “They’re assuming that Trump is going to win, and what’s jazzing them up right now is, ‘Then it’s going to be time for retribution,’” said Mary McCord, a former federal prosecutor who now leads the Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection, a Georgetown Law center focused on threats to U.S. security and democracy.


    Should Trump lose, however, “it’s just going to be the same thing [as 2020],” she said. “‘This was rigged, they cheated, they stole this.’ That narrative is super dangerous.”


    Given a national discourse rife with dehumanizing speech, and studies showing U.S. attitudes becoming more supportive of political violence, many extremism researchers fear the current lull is only a pause.

    Those fears are compounded, they add, by the hard right’s portrayal of Trump as not just a candidate but a savior, a messiah-like figure who represents their only hope of rescuing the republic from the “radical left.”………..

     

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