General Election 2024 Biden vs Trump (3 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

As we head toward the summer and the National Party Conventions, it might be handy to have a thread focused on the upcoming matchup of current President Biden vs Former President Trump.
As of April 28,2024 , CNN's poll shows Trump leading. Yet polls are not always accurate and they are constantly changing.
Feel free to use this thread for all things relating to Biden vs Trump.
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CNN Poll: Trump maintains lead over Biden in 2024 matchup as views on their presidencies diverge

Donald Trump continues to hold an advantage over President Joe Biden as the campaign – and Trump’s criminal trial – move forward, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. And in the coming rematch, opinions about the first term of each man vying for a second four years in the White House...

www.yahoo.com

 

[SaintForLife]

Russian interference efforts were well known by 2020. It doesn’t mean they didn’t try. They probably weren’t as successful, but they will keep trying. In the spy game, we’re constantly seeking new vulnerabilities and vectors of attack. I assume they learned from 2020 and will adjust their methods. It’s no different than any other criminal organization.

Why didn't we hear about the Russian interference after Biden won? So you are going to claim that we didn't hear about it because they weren't successful in the 2020 election as opposed to the Democrats not needing a scapegoat because they won?

Did you know Hillary's people were the sources for the Steele Dossier?

 

[Lapaz]

Why didn't we hear about the Russian interference after Biden won? So you are going to claim that we didn't hear about it because they weren't successful in the 2020 election as opposed to the Democrats not needing a scapegoat because they won?

Did you know Hillary's people were the sources for the Steele Dossier?

We didn’t hear about Russian interference in 2020 because they were stopped.

The FBI Russian interference investigation was started because of info on Trump’s adviser, Papadopoulos, before the FBI got the dossier. The dossier just provided leads to follow, and no one knew about this fruitful investigation until after the election.

What’s more, do you know Hillary’s people picked up where anti-Trump Republicans left off? Republicans hired Fusion GPS. Once Trump was the Republican nominee, Fusion GPS hired Steele that generated the Steele Dossier.

Fact Check | CNN Politics

CNN holds elected officials and candidates accountable by pointing out what’s true and what’s not. Here’s a look at our recent fact checks.

www.cnn.com

Washington Free Beacon says it hired Fusion GPS | CNN Politics

The Washington Free Beacon says it hired intelligence firm Fusion GPS during the 2016 Republican presidential primary.

www.cnn.com

I agree that the generation of the Steele Dossier was shady, but so is Trump. You have to fight fire with fire. No matter, the Dossier was only rumored, but didn’t come out until after the election. What isn’t rumored is that the Russians interfered to help Trump win the election. Whether Trump peed on prostitutes is irrelevant, because that didn’t affect the election.

Also Trump has sued and lost several cases against Steele, because he just makes up crap.

Trump is ordered to pay legal fees after failed lawsuit over the Steele dossier

Donald Trump has been ordered to pay a six-figure legal bill to a company founded by Christopher Steele, the former British spy that he unsuccessfully sued.

apnews.com

 

[MT15]

Why didn't we hear about the Russian interference after Biden won?

So there are some really faulty assumptions here.

1. Are you saying if there wasn’t reporting that it didn’t happen? You trust the “corporate” media that much? I think we all know that’s not true.

2. Oh, could it be because the guy who lost was attempting an auto-coup and that dominated the news up until the inauguration? Maybe that had something to do with it?

 

[SaintForLife]

Biden wants to be like Trump now?

 

[MT15]

Biden wants to be like Trump now?

So your poster, that 3-name serial killer sounding guy, is quite a propagandist. Is he saying that what Biden said in that clip comes close to what Trump says? Did you even watch the clip?

Honestly we need Community Notes just for SFL’s posts.

We have numerous examples of Trump calling the media the enemy of the people, fake news, and liars. He and his followers want to remove shows that don’t praise him enough, and jail journalists who criticize him. Please show me evidence of Biden saying any of those things.

This post is fake news, SFL, like almost all of your posts.

For those who don’t want to listen, Biden calls the press “these fine people”, says they’ve been hammering him (objectively true) and when the crowd boos, he tries to quiet them - saying it’s fine, it’s okay. But makes the point that Trump has been escaping criticism while they are focused on him.

Joe Biden could never be like Trump. He’s got a normal psyche. He’s not a criminal malignant sociopath.

 

[LA - L.A.]

So your poster, that 3-name serial killer sounding guy, is quite a propagandist. Is he saying that what Biden said in that clip comes close to what Trump says? Did you even watch the clip?

Honestly we need Community Notes just for SFL’s posts.

We have numerous examples of Trump calling the media the enemy of the people, fake news, and liars. He and his followers want to remove shows that don’t praise him enough, and jail journalists who criticize him. Please show me evidence of Biden saying any of those things.

This post is fake news, SFL, like almost all of your posts.

For those who don’t want to listen, Biden calls the press “these fine people”, says they’ve been hammering him (objectively true) and when the crowd boos, he tries to quiet them - saying it’s fine, it’s okay. But makes the point that Trump has been escaping criticism while they are focused on him.

Joe Biden could never be like Trump. He’s got a normal psyche. He’s not a criminal malignant sociopath.

Whenever Trump's supporters start spamming a lot, I know it's because they are having terror spasms.

Biden's rally in Detroit has Trump, Putin and Xi in a tizzy, so they've turn the agitation propaganda up to 11 and it's causing Trump supporters to have terror based spamming spasms.

It's a sign of fear and weakness, not confidence and strength.

 

[SaintForLife]

We didn’t hear about Russian interference in 2020 because they were stopped.

That's hilarious

The FBI Russian interference investigation was started because of info on Trump’s adviser, Papadopoulos, before the FBI got the dossier. The dossier just provided leads to follow, and no one knew about this fruitful investigation until after the election.

"According to Downer, Papadopoulos made no mention of Clinton emails, dirt, or any specific approach by the Russian government"

What’s more, do you know Hillary’s people picked up where anti-Trump Republicans left off? Republicans hired Fusion GPS. Once Trump was the Republican nominee, Fusion GPS hired Steele that generated the Steele Dossier.

Yes I'm well aware of that, but Steele wasn't hired until Hillary took over the funding.

Fact Check | CNN Politics

CNN holds elected officials and candidates accountable by pointing out what’s true and what’s not. Here’s a look at our recent fact checks.

www.cnn.com

Washington Free Beacon says it hired Fusion GPS | CNN Politics

The Washington Free Beacon says it hired intelligence firm Fusion GPS during the 2016 Republican presidential primary.

www.cnn.com

I agree that the generation of the Steele Dossier was shady, but so is Trump. You have to fight fire with fire. No matter, the Dossier was only rumored, but didn’t come out until after the election. What isn’t rumored is that the Russians interfered to help Trump win the election. Whether Trump peed on prostitutes is irrelevant, because that didn’t affect the election.

Fight fire with fire? So it's okay to use a bullshirt document to smear someone because Democrats hate Trump?

Nothing in the Steele Dossier aka the Hillary Dossier has been confirmed to be true except things that were already previously reported.

It definitely came out before the election.

October 31st, 2016:

A veteran spy has given the FBI information alleging a Russian operation to cultivate Donald Trump

Has the bureau investigated this material?

www.motherjones.com

Also Trump has sued and lost several cases against Steele, because he just makes up crap.

Trump is ordered to pay legal fees after failed lawsuit over the Steele dossier

Donald Trump has been ordered to pay a six-figure legal bill to a company founded by Christopher Steele, the former British spy that he unsuccessfully sued.

apnews.com

That article didn't say anything about Trump losing the case because "he just makes up crap."

Orbis said the lawsuit should be thrown out because the report was never meant to be made public and was published by BuzzFeed without the permission of Steele or Orbis. It also said the claim was filed too late.

The judge agreed, concluding Trump had “chosen to allow many years to elapse -– without any attempt to vindicate his reputation in this jurisdiction -– since he was first made aware of the dossier” in January 2017.

“The claim for compensation and/or damages … is bound to fail,” Steyn said.

Steele briefed the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Yahoo News about his dossier before the election.

 

[MT15]

It definitely came out before the election.

No, it didn’t. It wasn’t published until January 2017. You should know this. That article speculates that it exists it doesn’t publish it.

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[J-DONK]

Can we talk about how funny this post is? SFL can't use actual economic data to point to a bad economy. The "facts not feelings" party has to talk about feelings when it comes to the economy.

This post might as well be "look at how good our propaganda is working."

Among those surveyed, 64% said the U.S. is headed toward stagflation, when inflation continues to climb and the economic rate slows.

Back in reality:

US inflation cools again, potentially paving way for Fed to cut interest rates soon

Consumer prices in the United States are believed to have edged up just 0.1% from May to June in data the government will release Thursday morning.

apnews.com

 

[SaintForLife]

Can we talk about how funny this post is? SFL can't use actual economic data to point to a bad economy. The "facts not feelings" party has to talk about feelings when it comes to the economy.

This post might as well be "look at how good our propaganda is working."



Back in reality:

US inflation cools again, potentially paving way for Fed to cut interest rates soon

Consumer prices in the United States are believed to have edged up just 0.1% from May to June in data the government will release Thursday morning.

apnews.com

Do you think those small businesses or people care about what the government statistics say when they can all see how EVERYTHING is way more expensive now at every store?

How does the government telling small businesses owners that it the economy is good help them turn a profit or avoid going out of business with all the sky high prices?

The only people that think or say we have a good economy are Biden supporters.

 

[J-DONK]

Do you think those small businesses or people care about what the government statistics say when they can all see how EVERYTHING is way more expensive now at every store?

How does the government telling small businesses owners that it the economy is good help them turn a profit or avoid going out of business with all the sky high prices?

The only people that think or say we have a good economy are Biden supporters.

Small Businesses should be raising their own prices if they want to keep the same profit margin to combat rising input cost.

Inflation is dead minus rent.



Mark my words, if Trump wins the economy will suddenly be beautiful, working amazing well, and you will posting actual economic data by March.

 

[SaintForLife]

Small Businesses should be raising their own prices if they want to keep the same profit margin to combat rising input cost.

Inflation is dead minus rent.

Don't believe our lying eyes huh?

Paul Krugman? Come on. That guy's a joke.

Mark my words, if Trump wins the economy will suddenly be beautiful, working amazing well, and you will posting actual economic data by March.

Trump will win and I doubt the economy will be looking good after 2 months from inauguration.

 

[MT15]

Trump will win and I doubt the economy will be looking good after 2 months from inauguration.

You’re hilarious. If Trump wins, and does what he says we will be well on our way to a recession in a few months. With food shortages - the whole works.

But Trump won’t win.

 

[J-DONK]

Don't believe our lying eyes huh?

Paul Krugman? Come on. That guy's a joke.

Trump will win and I doubt the economy will be looking good after 2 months from inauguration.

Paul Krugman is Nobel prize winning economist.

 

[MT15]

Paul Krugman is Nobel prize winning economist.

But he’s not MAGA so SFL hates him.

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[MT15]

Keep telling yourself that. Maybe it will comfort you when Trump loses. Americans aren’t electing that criminal.