President Trump and First Lady have tested positive for Virus (Update: Trump to undergo televised ‘medical exam’ Friday night) (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

 

[Nebaghead]

The other thing that really impacts the government is what about the west wing. All the people running the west wing are likely going to be on quarantine and it could be a super spread that impacts the entire executive branch.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

I'm also thinking if he came into contact with or even speaking distance on stage with Biden there's a decent chance Biden may have it

Correct.. After all the lies about Covid that Trump has told, and all of his inaction that’s caused him to have blood on his hands of 200k Americans dead- i could honestly give two ***** about what happens to him.

But if that [Mod Edit . Seek a higher level of discourse, and do not use partisan triggers.] is responsible for Biden getting it- after he had to stand there on stage a few days ago and be MOCKED by Trump for wearing a mask- then god help us all.

 

[wardorican]

So the reporting is that Trump was aware that he was exposed Thursday morning and then later on Thursday he went to an in-person fundraiser where no one wore masks.. guess he again didn't want to cause a panic..

Just another thing to drag his arse over.

This is likely going to be a super spreader event.

I wonder how many of those donors are young vs old. This could get kinda bad.

 

[DaveXA]

I can't think of a single issue where Trump's continued involvement is a good thing. Anyone who fears chaos or instability at POTUS being incapacitated hasn't, IMO, been paying attention to this particular POTUS.

I get the sentiment. I don't like him either, but, he's still the President, and there will be a lot more uncertainty with him having CV19 because we don't know what kind of effect it will have on him, what kind of disruptive effect it has on the country's disposition in terms of readiness and whether enemies would attempt to test our resolve to protect our interests and of course with the election being so soon, the uncertainty this brings muddles the picture even more.

I'm not necessarily fearful of chaos or instability resulting from an incapacitated President, but, it's still a very real possibility, and there likely will be unwanted and/or unforseen consequences of that happening.

I'd rather the President be healthy and we have a conclusive election and look ahead to our nation begin recovering from all that was 2020.

Fwiw, being be kind of person he is, I just don't see him admitting he has CV19 unless he's absolutely forced to. Because he's the President, his health is a public interest and there's no way he could hide it. It's also a real blow to his flippant attitude about prevention and protection from the spread of the virus. I just don't see him wanting to project any kind of weakness, especially when he knows his political opponents are already questioning his health. It just doesn't make much sense.

I wouldn't rule out that he might claim it was a false positive, but i tend to think it's true, particularly if it's one of the more highly reliable tests.

I don't think he's made many good decisions while in office, but right now, whether it's him or Biden, I just want a peaceful transition to the next term either way. I'm all crisised out at this point.

 

[DaveXA]

One thing this will show us is that a lot of people who hate him for how he treats people or what he says will show everyone they are no different than he is. It doesn’t take a lot to be a compassionate decent human being regardless of who the person you show compassion to is. Because someone is a piece of shirt doesn’t make it ok for you to act like one also. With that said I pray he and his family a speedy recovery and that they come away unscathed.

Yeah, the hypocrisy is real. But hatred makes a lot of people do things they otherwise wouldn't ordinarily do.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

One thing this will show us is that a lot of people who hate him for how he treats people or what he says will show everyone they are no different than he is. It doesn’t take a lot to be a compassionate decent human being regardless of who the person you show compassion to is. Because someone is a piece of shirt doesn’t make it ok for you to act like one also. With that said I pray he and his family a speedy recovery and that they come away unscathed.

There is a big forking difference between being actively and purposefully abhorrently cruel and imposing pain, suffering, and unnecessary death on innocent or vulnerable people and being someone taking a moment of relief that said person reaped what they sowed to enjoy some gallows humor.

Don’t give me that shirt.

207,000 people are dead because of this man’s disgusting narcissistic behavior and many more to come, and he may have knowingly become a super spreader by not following the basic science beaten into us for 6 months by his own government.

So take that both sides shirt elsewhere.

 

[DaveXA]

There is a big forking difference between being actively and purposefully abhorrently cruel and imposing pain, suffering, and unnecessary death on innocent or vulnerable people and being someone taking a moment of relief that said person reaped what they sowed to enjoy some gallows humor.

Don’t give me that shirt.

207,000 people are dead because of this man’s disgusting narcissistic behavior and many more to come, and he may have knowingly become a super spreader by not following the basic science beaten into us for 6 months by his own government.

So take that both sides shirt elsewhere.

It's not your place to shut down discussion here. You've made your point more than enough already. We get it. Let's move on.

 

[Saintamaniac]

“I like my Presidents not to have Covid”

- Donald Trump 10 hours ago probably

For me, I've never wished Trump to get Covid. However, I wouldn't give two shirts if he did get it. In fact, I like presidents that don't get Covid-19, I hate to tell you....

Please don't attribute quotes to trump that I, myself, have said.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

It's not your place to shut down discussion here. You've made your point more than enough already. We get it. Let's move on.

It’s my place to express my opinion and I have no time for entertaining or letting go unchallenged this trollish gaslighting bullshirt that attempts to place moral equivalency between the person actively enacting cruelty and directly responsible for allowing and perpetuating the death of 100’s of thousands of innocent people with those suffering under that rule expressing some cathartic relief over said individual getting some comeuppance. Even if I personally think it will be short lived and we are simply going to have our Boris Johnson moment at home.

And that can apply to you as well claiming that doing so exposes some sort of hypocrisy, the fork it does.

 

[DaveXA]

It’s my place to express my opinion and I have no time for entertaining this trollish gaslighting bullshirt that attempts to place moral equivalency on the person actively enacting cruelty and directly killing innocent people and those that are expressing some cathartic relief over said individual getting some comeuppance. Even if I personally think it will be short lived and we are simply going to have our Boris Johnson moment at home.

And that can apply to you as well claiming that doing so exposes some sort of hypocrisy, the fork it does.

Meh, I said my bit. Not gonna waste time talking to someone who isn't gonna listen to what i have to say. Like I said, moving on.

 

[superchuck500]

I find this stuff sort of interesting. Apparently yesterday a pair of E6-B Mercury aircraft popped up on flight tracking data/transponder apps, one on the east coast and one on the west. The US DOD uses these to transmit command information to naval vessels and assets at sea, including nuclear forces. The speculation is that they were flying to provide "be alert" instructions (or perhaps a defense condition change) resulting from the president's Covid diagnosis - in the event that an adversary were to view this is as some kind of strike opportunity. Also, these flights being visible on civilian systems is, by speculation, intentional to let observers (at those adversaries) know that we were doing it (sending alert/condition orders).

Pentagon says it's just a coincidence, but there's really nothing wrong with it being what the analysts suggest it is. That would make sense.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...mpts-pentagon-to-deploy-nuclear-command-plane

 

[dtc]

I get the sentiment. I don't like him either, but, he's still the President, and there will be a lot more uncertainty with him having CV19 because we don't know what kind of effect it will have on him, what kind of disruptive effect it has on the country's disposition in terms of readiness and whether enemies would attempt to test our resolve to protect our interests and of course with the election being so soon, the uncertainty this brings muddles the picture even more.

I'm not necessarily fearful of chaos or instability resulting from an incapacitated President, but, it's still a very real possibility, and there likely will be unwanted and/or unforseen consequences of that happening.

I'd rather the President be healthy and we have a conclusive election and look ahead to our nation begin recovering from all that was 2020.

Fwiw, being be kind of person he is, I just don't see him admitting he has CV19 unless he's absolutely forced to. Because he's the President, his health is a public interest and there's no way he could hide it. It's also a real blow to his flippant attitude about prevention and protection from the spread of the virus. I just don't see him wanting to project any kind of weakness, especially when he knows his political opponents are already questioning his health. It just doesn't make much sense.

I wouldn't rule out that he might claim it was a false positive, but i tend to think it's true, particularly if it's one of the more highly reliable tests.

I don't think he's made many good decisions while in office, but right now, whether it's him or Biden, I just want a peaceful transition to the next term either way. I'm all crisised out at this point.

I have to strongly disagree with all the pearl clutching about Trump's potential incapacitation.

He has no role in readiness nor has he even paid attention to his job. If he lays sick and dies for a month, the country will be better run than it has been in years. Were he to have simply let the people do their job and play golf every day and twice on Sundays, we would be better off - BY FAR - than we are while he's throwing wrenches into the gears of government.

The military, JCOS, and every understaffed, politically damaged agency is better the minute Trump is quiet than the day before. Even his freaking cabinet members are likely excited by the prospect of his being absent and quiet.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[coldseat]

One thing I did find interesting about Trump's tweet that I hadn't seen discussed much is that he called it Covid-19 and not "the China virus". Now, all news coming out of the White House regards to the president is about Covid-19 and not the China virus. Funny how it's taken seriously when it's his life, but not when it's the lives of 7.2 million other Americans.

 

[efil4]

I find this stuff sort of interesting. Apparently yesterday a pair of E6-B Mercury aircraft popped up on flight tracking data/transponder apps, one on the east coast and one on the west. The US DOD uses these to transmit command information to naval vessels and assets at sea, including nuclear forces. The speculation is that they were flying to provide "be alert" instructions (or perhaps a defense condition change) resulting from the president's Covid diagnosis - in the event that an adversary were to view this is as some kind of strike opportunity. Also, these flights being visible on civilian systems is, by speculation, intentional to let observers (at those adversaries) know that we were doing it (sending alert/condition orders).

Pentagon says it's just a coincidence, but there's really nothing wrong with it being what the analysts suggest it is. That would make sense.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...mpts-pentagon-to-deploy-nuclear-command-plane

Read a tweet a while ago from NSA reporter who posted screen shots of East and West coast flight radars and said thats exactly what DoD wants- any adversary to see them in the skies.

Many more machinations are starting to move- including keeping the House Speaker in quarantine ( speculative but suggested )

 

[Taurus]

Read a tweet a while ago from NSA reporter who posted screen shots of East and West coast flight radars and said thats exactly what DoD wants- any adversary to see them in the skies.

Many more machinations are starting to move- including keeping the House Speaker in quarantine ( speculative but suggested )

Wait, wait...Pelosi and Trump in quarantine at the same time? O! Frabjous day!

 

[superchuck500]

 

[superchuck500]