Will “mass deportation” actually happen

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

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GARDEN GROVE, Calif. (KABC) -- After her husband was unexpectedly detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement during a routine check-in, a Fountain Valley woman became a single mother overnight and worries the father of her toddler may be removed from the U.S.

Eyewitness News met Khanhi at the VietRISE office. Khanhi only wanted to share her first name and didn't want to disclose her husband's identity. She feared it may affect his immigration case.

Khanhi shared a recording of her daughter, Evelyn, watching her father, or Dada, sing to her in a video chat. Mom said to fall asleep, their one-year-old needs to see him, hear his voice, be in his arms-but these days, that's not possible.

"They take naps together and that's probably the one thing that she's really missed out on," Khanhi said.

That's because Dad was in detention by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, in Adelanto.

Khanhi said she and her husband were both brought to the U.S. as children from war-torn Vietnam.

"I think my husband was five. I was just a year old-by moms who bravely jumped on a boat in the middle of the night and came to a completely foreign land," Khanhi said.

Khanhi was able to become a U.S. citizen, but her husband was under something called an order of supervision. He had a work permit and Khanhi said for more than a decade, her husband went to quick annual check-ins at this ICE office in Santa Ana.

He's not alone.

According to Asian Americans Advancing Justice Southern California, many who fled Vietnam are under this order. Joseph Navales with AAAJ explained it often started with children who came to a foreign country, struggling with one or no parent, possibly making mistakes as young adults and falling into a legal and immigration system they didn't understand. Navales said some even pleaded guilty without even committing the crime.

"What ends up happening is they want to get out of detention and they unfortunately sign a removal order or voluntary departure order, but because of this agreement with Vietnam they were never actually removed from the country," Navales said.

There was no process in place to deport Vietnamese immigrants. Decades passed, adolescents grew up, working and starting families……..

Vietnamese father, an Orange County resident, held for more than a month after being detained by ICE

After her husband was unexpectedly detained by ICE during a routine check-in, a Fountain Valley woman became a single mother overnight.

abc7.com

 

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Behind the reinforced doors of courtroom number two, at a remote detention centre in central Louisiana, Lu Xianying sat alone before an immigration judge unable to communicate.

Dressed in a blue jumpsuit that drooped from his slight frame, he waited as court staff called three different translation services, unable to find an interpreter proficient in his native Gan Chinese.

Like almost all of the 17 detainees appearing before Judge Kandra Robbins during removal proceedings on Tuesday morning, Lu had no attorney because there is no right to legal representation in US immigration proceedings.

He sat silently, evidently confused. A substitute interpreter was eventually found, and began translating the judge’s questions into Mandarin.

“I am afraid to return to China,” he told the court, as he described how he had already filed an asylum application after crossing the border into Texas in March 2024.

Lu said he was worried a lawyer had stolen his money and not submitted his asylum claim. Lu, who had only recently been detained, struggled to understand, as the judge asked him to list his country of return should he be deported.

“Right now my order is to be removed?” He asked. “Or should I go to court?”

The judge explained that he was present in court, and provided him another asylum application form. His next hearing was scheduled for April.

The LaSalle immigration court, inside a sprawling Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) detention centre in rural Jena, Louisiana, has been thrust into the spotlight in recent weeks after the former Columbia graduate student Mahmoud Khalil was transferred here earlier this month.

His case has drawn international attention as the Trump administration attempts to deport the pro-Palestinian activist under rarely used executive provisions of US immigration law.

The government is fighting vigorously to keep Khalil’s case in Louisiana and he is due to appear again at the LaSalle court for removal proceedings on 8 April.

But it has also renewed focus on the network of remote immigration detention centres that stretch between Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi, known as “Detention Alley” – where 14 of the country’s 20 largest detention centres are clustered. And now where other students have since been sent after being arrested thousands of miles away.

Badar Khan Suri, a research student at Georgetown University, was arrested in Virginia last week and sent to a detention centre in Alexandria, Louisiana, and then on to another site, Prairieland in eastern Texas.

This week, Rumeysa Ozturk, a doctoral student at Tufts University, was arrested in Massachusetts and sent to the South Louisiana Ice processing centre in the swamplands of Evangeline parish.

These distant detention facilities and court systems have long been associated with rights violations, poor medical treatment and due process concerns, which advocates argue are only likely to intensify during the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown and promise to carry out mass deportations that has already led to a surge in the detention population. But rarely do cases within these centres attract much public attention or individual scrutiny.

“Most of the folks in detention in Louisiana aren’t the ones making the news,” said Andrew Perry, an immigrant rights attorney at the ACLU of Louisiana. “But they are experiencing similar, if not the same, treatment as those who are.”…..

‘Detention Alley’: inside the Ice centres in the US south where foreign students and undocumented migrants languish

Foreign nationals caught up in Trump’s immigration dragnet are transported sometimes thousands of miles away to an isolated network of lockups and courts

www.theguardian.com

 

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Why the Trump administration wants to try immigration cases in Louisiana

• "If someone is appealing their immigration court case, those cases eventually can go to the federal appellate circuits," in this case the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, based in New Orleans, Yanik said.
• "The 5th Circuit is arguably the most right-wing federal appellate court in the country," according to the Center for American Progress, a left-leaning think tank.

 

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Evidently this admin has published a gallery of the supposed “gang” tattoos that it considered proof of belonging to a specific Venezuelan gang. A guy on BlueSky has researched them and 7 out of 9 are so far NOT affiliated with that gang - or any gang really. Just posting the first post - there’s documentation on BlueSky for every one he found, plus the information that the gang in question doesn’t use tattoos as markers for its members. It appears they just grabbed any Hispanic-looking person with tattoos, called them gang members and sent them to a foreign gulag with no due process at all.



Meanwhile - our SOD is all tatted up and some of them have alt-right connotations.

 

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And would it surprise you to know what other country has same rule?

 

[MT15]

Everyone who is aiding in this, and everyone making excuses for this should rot in hell.



Edit: in case you cannot see the picture of his tattoos - they are a crown on each forearm - one says Mom under it and the other arm says Dad.

These are the supposed gang marker tattoos. He repeatedly says he’s not in any gang, and they just don’t listen and send him to a concentration camp anyway. He’s openly gay and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s fatal for him to be there.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Why the Trump administration wants to try immigration cases in Louisiana

• "If someone is appealing their immigration court case, those cases eventually can go to the federal appellate circuits," in this case the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, based in New Orleans, Yanik said.
• "The 5th Circuit is arguably the most right-wing federal appellate court in the country," according to the Center for American Progress, a left-leaning think tank.

Louisiana experienced a surge in immigration detention during the first Trump administration. At the end of 2016, the state had capacity for a little more than 2,000 immigrant detainees, which more than doubled within two years. A wave of new Ice detention centres opened in remote, rural locations often at facilities previously used as private prisons. The state now holds the second largest number of detained immigrants, behind only Texas. Almost 7,000 people were held as of February 2025 at nine facilities in Louisiana, all operated by private companies.


“It is this warehousing of immigrants in rural, isolated, ‘out of sight, of mind’ locations,” said Homero López, the legal director of Immigration Services and Legal Advocacy in Louisiana and a former appellate immigration judge. “It’s difficult on attorneys, on family members, on community support systems to even get to folks. And therefore it’s a lot easier on government to present their case. They can just bulldoze people through the process.”

‘Detention Alley’: inside the Ice centres in the US south where foreign students and undocumented migrants languish

Foreign nationals caught up in Trump’s immigration dragnet are transported sometimes thousands of miles away to an isolated network of lockups and courts

www.theguardian.com

 

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Absolutely outrageous and infuriating

I fear this is going to happen more often
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The Trump administration accidentally sent a Salvadorian immigrant to a notorious Salvadorian prison and says it can’t do anything to get him back.

That’s even though the man had protected immigration status in the U.S., specifically barring him from being sent back to that country for fear of persecution.

On Monday, in a filing in Maryland federal court, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) admitted to mistakenly sending Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia to El Salvador’s notoriously brutal CECOT prison.

“On March 15, although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government wrote.

The admission came in a suit from Abrego Garcia’s family, who is seeking court orders barring the U.S. from paying El Salvador for the man’s detention and demanding that the federal government request the country return him to the United States.

The Trump administration argues that because the man is no longer in U.S. custody, a U.S. court lacks jurisdiction to issue orders regarding his detention and release.…..

Trump admin accidentally sent man to Salvadorian prison and can’t get him back

Government argues it no longer has control over Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia’s fate

www.independent.co.uk

 

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Absolutely outrageous and infuriating

I fear this is going to happen more often
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The Trump administration accidentally sent a Salvadorian immigrant to a notorious Salvadorian prison and says it can’t do anything to get him back.

That’s even though the man had protected immigration status in the U.S., specifically barring him from being sent back to that country for fear of persecution.

On Monday, in a filing in Maryland federal court, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) admitted to mistakenly sending Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia to El Salvador’s notoriously brutal CECOT prison.

“On March 15, although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government wrote.

The admission came in a suit from Abrego Garcia’s family, who is seeking court orders barring the U.S. from paying El Salvador for the man’s detention and demanding that the federal government request the country return him to the United States.

The Trump administration argues that because the man is no longer in U.S. custody, a U.S. court lacks jurisdiction to issue orders regarding his detention and release.…..

Trump admin accidentally sent man to Salvadorian prison and can’t get him back

Government argues it no longer has control over Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia’s fate

www.independent.co.uk

They can get him back, they’re not claiming they cannot get him back. What they’re saying is that the court cannot force them to bring him back. They don’t want to correct their error, they’re just fine with it. At least that’s how I am reading it. The article isn’t super clear.

If they are saying they have no way to get him back - I’d like to know why they would say that.

 

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They can get him back, they’re not claiming they cannot get him back. What they’re saying is that the court cannot force them to bring him back. They don’t want to correct their error, they’re just fine with it. At least that’s how I am reading it. The article isn’t super clear.

If they are saying they have no way to get him back - I’d like to know why they would say that.

 

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Those butt crevasses don't care what lies they tell and whose lives they destroy.

 

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They are talking about a man with a 5 yo daughter, who was keeping every check-in appointment with immigration for years now. His only arrest was a sweep outside a store where men were waiting to be hired for day jobs and he was labeled as a gang member because he was wearing some Chicago Bulls clothing.

 

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They are talking about a man with a 5 yo daughter, who was keeping every check-in appointment with immigration for years now. His only arrest was a sweep outside a store where men were waiting to be hired for day jobs and he was labeled as a gang member because he was wearing some Chicago Bulls clothing.

Karoline "saw" the evidence

i dont even know what to say

 

[samiam5211]

I wouldn’t attend any immigration appointment without my attorney present if you’ve ever had any arrest or immigration violation in your past.

Even (especially) your own naturalization ceremony.

 

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n 29 January, the second Trump administration held its first White House press briefing. “Of the 3,500 arrests Ice has made so far since President Trump came back into office, can you just tell us the numbers?” asked a reporter in the front row. “How many have a criminal record versus those who are just in the country illegally?”

“All of them,” responded the new White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, making her debut in the briefing room, “because they illegally broke our nation’s laws, and, therefore, they are criminals, as far as this administration goes.”

She continued: “I know the last administration didn’t see it that way, so it’s a big culture shift in our nation to view someone who breaks our immigration laws as a criminal. But that’s exactly what they are.”

Leavitt’s answer delighted Maga media and went viral in conservative circles, with a fire emoji from a Daily Wire reporter, a bullseye emoji from the Heritage Foundation, and a mic drop emoji from the Republican Study Committee.

It was also completely, utterly, totally, wrong. Factually inaccurate. A brazen lie.

In the eyes of this administration, immigrants who are undocumented are all “illegal immigrants” and these “illegal immigrants”, ergo, are all “criminals”.

But, on so many levels, it’s just not true. It’s a popular myth pushed by the right that needs urgent debunking.

First, people are not, are never, illegal. It was the Nobel laureate and former Auschwitz prisoner Elie Wiesel who pointed out how “no human being is ‘illegal’” because it is “a contradiction in terms.
People can be beautiful or less beautiful, they can be just or unjust, but illegal? How can a human being be illegal?”

An act can be illegal; people cannot inherently be illegal.

Second, the anti-immigrant right has not only gotten the language wrong but the law wrong, too. Under the US criminal code, as the ACLU has noted: “The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime.”

Why? Because illegal entry is considered a misdemeanor not a felony, under 8 US Code § 1325, and is subject to civil, and not criminal, penalties. It is the “reentry of removed aliens”, under 8 US Code § 1326, that is considered a felony and subject to criminal punishment.

Meanwhile, almost half of undocumented immigrants in the United States did not even enter the country illegally to begin with; many of them are “overstays” who arrived with a legal work, student, or travel visa but failed to leave the US, for a multiplicity of reasons, before their visas expired.

The inconvenient truth for the anti-immigrant right is that it is not a crime for immigrants simply to be present in the United States without proper documentation. They are not “illegals”.

Don’t take my word for it. Or the ACLU’s. Take the word – the 5-3 majority ruling! – of the supreme court of the United States. In 2012, in Arizona v United States, the highest court in the land ruled that “as a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain in the United States”.

Got that? Not. A. Crime………

There is no such thing as an ‘illegal immigrant’ | Mehdi Hasan

It is a factually inaccurate and totally, utterly wrong to say that undocumented people are ‘illegal’ and are ‘criminals’

www.theguardian.com