Will “mass deportation” actually happen (10 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[MT15]

So, he was granted asylum in 2018 but for some unspecified reason it was rescinded in December of 2024.

So there would be a proper way to handle the situation. It would involve whatever due process is allowed. Not snatching him up without warning and throwing him in a concentration camp and keeping him from utilizing any appeal he has.

He was granted asylum for a reason. Presumably he cannot go back to his country of origin, so will they just ship him to Sudan?

I’m sure he’s a horrible criminal, right? A clergyman who helps parents with babies in NICU. Yeah we totally cannot trust him to do the right thing. Nevermind he was picked up because he was dutifully obeying the conditions of his asylum.

These people are criminally cruel.

 

[MT15]

Most people don’t like what Trump is doing with immigration. Most people see it for what it is.

 

[SystemShock]

I’m sure he’s a horrible criminal, right? A clergyman who helps parents with babies in NICU. Yeah we totally cannot trust him to do the right thing. Nevermind he was picked up because he was dutifully obeying the conditions of his asylum.

I don't know if he's a horrible criminal or not; but I know this: he's not helping anyone with babies in NICU.

My oldest son was in a NICU for 2 weeks. It wasn't until the 3rd day after he was born that we were allowed to hold him, and only because the doctors didn't think he was going to make it through the night. And surely enough, a priest showed up, telling me how sorry he was, and how we should pray to God for the soul of my child. It took all of me not to punch that MF in the face. Because that's what they do, in your most vulnerable moments, they show up to push their religion on you.

Now, we were lucky: my job gave me added PTO during this time so I could be at the hospital with my wife and my kid, we were financially stable, we had good insurance (even though we still had to cough up $250,000 after deductible) lived very close to a very good hospital, with very good doctors. And, 26 years later, my boy just got married this past April.

But you know what kind of help parents really need when they have a child in NICU? That their jobs give them the PTO to be in the hospital or not outright fire them because of time away, a place to stay if the hospital is far away from their homes, food, transportation, financial aid to pay the NICU bill... that is truly helping, not some clergy who thinks praying to their deity was going to solve any problem.

And it doesn't end with the NICU discharge, BTW. There are more costs, more stress afterwards... ours lasted 6 months until my boy was fully cleared.

And the narrative is always the same: child dies, it was God's plan. Child lives, Jesus answered your prayers! Don't thank the doctors, thank Jesus!

 

[efil4]

I don't know if he's a horrible criminal or not; but I know this: he's not helping anyone with babies in NICU.

My oldest son was in a NICU for 2 weeks. It wasn't until the 3rd day after he was born that we were allowed to hold him, and only because the doctors didn't think he was going to make it through the night. And surely enough, a priest showed up, telling me how sorry he was, and how we should pray to God for the soul of my child. It took all of me not to punch that MF in the face. Because that's what they do, in your most vulnerable moments, they show up to push their religion on you.

Now, we were lucky: my job gave me added PTO during this time so I could be at the hospital with my wife and my kid, we were financially stable, we had good insurance (even though we still had to cough up $250,000 after deductible) lived very close to a very good hospital, with very good doctors. And, 26 years later, my boy just got married this past April.

But you know what help parents really need when they have a child in NICU? That their jobs give them the chance to be in the hospital or not outright fire them because of time away, a place to stay if the hospital is far away from their homes, food, transportation, financial aid to pay the NICU bill... that is truly helping, not some clergy who thinks praying to their deity was going to solve any problem.

And it doesn't end with the NICU discharge, BTW. There are more costs, more stress afterwards... ours lasted 6 months until my boy was fully cleared.

And the narrative is always the same: child dies, it was God's plan. Child lives, Jesus answered your prayers! Don't thank the doctors, thank Jesus!

we get your atheist views. ad nauseam.

But for many, they dont share that view. So the Chaplain provides them with some solace and hope that helps them navigate the emotional aspect - for them.

Instead of just telling them " meh, there is no Jesus so what happens, happens"

This entire issue isnt about the cost of NICU or the associated costs post-NICU- its about a man who served a purpose, for people who were looking for solace in times of deep sorrow.

Good lawd man, you got some issues with religion. Whew. Too much to unpack im sure, but hopefully you get resolved.

 

[Sendai]

So there would be a proper way to handle the situation. It would involve whatever due process is allowed. Not snatching him up without warning and throwing him in a concentration camp and keeping him from utilizing any appeal he has.

He was granted asylum for a reason. Presumably he cannot go back to his country of origin, so will they just ship him to Sudan?

I’m sure he’s a horrible criminal, right? A clergyman who helps parents with babies in NICU. Yeah we totally cannot trust him to do the right thing. Nevermind he was picked up because he was dutifully obeying the conditions of his asylum.

These people are criminally cruel.

And his asylum was rescinded for a reason.

Due Process is in motion

Rep. Landsman: ICE to allow Cincinnati Children's Hospital chaplain to remain in Ohio as he challenges deportation

Rep. Greg Landsman says that he has secured commitments from Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials to keep a Cincinnati Children's Hospital chaplain within Ohio as his case proceeds through court.

www.wlwt.com

Interesting that this has been going on for several months.

 

[SystemShock]

we get your atheist views. ad nauseam.

But for many, they dont share that view. So the Chaplain provides them with some solace and hope that helps them navigate the emotional aspect - for them.

Instead of just telling them " meh, there is no Jesus so what happens, happens"

This entire issue isnt about the cost of NICU or the associated costs post-NICU- its about a man who served a purpose, for people who were looking for solace in times of deep sorrow.

Good lawd man, you got some issues with religion. Whew. Too much to unpack im sure, but hopefully you get resolved.

Sure, dismiss all of that over my "atheist views".

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Today, I learned:

 

[efil4]

Sure, dismiss all of that over my "atheist views".

I am.

absolutely.

Just as you dismissed all else over your "atheist views" ( as stated in your last line )

 

[SystemShock]

I am.

absolutely.

Just as you dismissed all else over your "atheist views" ( as stated in your last line )

It's atheist view, singular... it's just one view on one subject.

Let me tell you about that 3rd day... the same doctor that told us on day 1 that it was going to be touch and go for a week, she was the same doctor that, on day 3, looked me straight in the eye and told they were going to let us hold the baby because they didn't think he was going to make it through the night. After my wife stopped sobbing, and that priest came over and I dismissed him, my wife asked me if we could get Albert to come - Albert was the priest who married us at St. John's Episcopal in Georgetown. And BTW, my wife is a deist, not a Christian or anything like that. And I agreed; not because I believe in any god, but because I knew Albert truly cared for us; so we waited for Albert to get there, and we held my son, and Albert poured some oil on my boys forehead, and I actually kneeled down with him when he started praying.

And it wasn't because I believed it was going to do any good, though, but because Albert was there for us, not as a priest, but as a friend, when my wife's pregnancy went sideways, the friend who brought food to my wife when she was on bed rest and I couldn't be there because of work, who drove my wife to doctors' appointments when I could not do it before and after the birth of my boy.. and not once, he proselytize; not once, he asked us to kneel down and pray.

My disdain for certain churches and church practices is not the result of atheism. You'll never see me say anything about Jains, or Buddhists, for example. But the Abrahamic religions? You bet.

 

[efil4]

It's atheist view, singular... it's just one view on one subject.

Let me tell you about that 3rd day... the same doctor that told us on day 1 that it was going to be touch and go for a week, she was the same doctor that, on day 3, looked me straight in the eye and told they were going to let us hold the baby because they didn't think he was going to make it through the night. After my wife stopped sobbing, and that priest came over and I dismissed him, my wife asked me if we could get Albert to come - Albert was the priest who married us at St. John's Episcopal in Georgetown. And I agreed; not because I believe in any god, but because I knew Albert truly cared for us; so we waited for Albert to get there, and we held my son, and Albert poured some oil on my boys forehead, and I actually kneeled down with him when he started praying.

And it wasn't because I believed it was going to do any good, though, but because Albert was there for us, not as a priest, but as a friend, the friend who brought food to my wife when she was on bed rest and I couldn't be there because of work, who drove my wife to doctors' appointments when I could not do it before and after the birth of my boy.. and not once, he proselytize.

As for the atheist view, my disdain for certain churches is not the result of atheism. You'll never see me say anything about Jains, or Buddhists, for example. But the Abrahamic religions? You bet.

Sweet story.

not sure how that relates to the current issue, but lovely nonetheless.

 

[SystemShock]

Sweet story.

not sure how that relates to the current issue, but lovely nonetheless.

it wasn't sweet or lovely. It was forking horrible.

 

[efil4]

it wasn't sweet or lovely. It was forking horrible.

I'm talking about your friend being there for your family in a time of need.

Bruh.

 

[Optimus Prime]