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superchuck500

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It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 
Under court order. So they will have to get a court order for every person? According to what that says, the IRS can only share data under a court order.
 
The Trump administration’s proposal to vet social media profiles of green card applicants already legally in the U.S. has been condemned in initial public feedback as an attack on free speech.

Visa applicants living abroad already have to share their social media handles with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, but the proposal under President Donald Trump would expand the policy to those already legally in the country who are applying for permanent residency or seeking asylum.

USCIS said the vetting of social media accounts is necessary for “the enhanced identity verification, vetting and national security screening.”

The agency also said it was necessary to comply with Trump’s executive order titled “Protecting the United States from Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats.”……..

“So the US is heading for authoritarian now,” an anonymous commenter said. “Anything that the current administration doesn’t like means bad. Pure ideology means total destruction. This is a violation to the First Amendment.”

“Chilling Effect on Free Speech: The fear of government scrutiny of online expression will undoubtedly stifle free speech,” another comment read. “This is particularly concerning for individuals from countries with different political climates, who may fear the misinterpretation of their online activity.”……


‘Chilling effect on free speech:’ Trump wants green card applicants already legally in the US to hand over social media profiles​

 
Optimus Prime said:
The US Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is reportedly nearing a deal to allow immigration officials to use tax data to support Donald Trump’s deportation agenda, according to reports by theWashington Post.

Under the proposed data-sharing agreement, said to have been in negotiations for weeks, Immigration And Customs Enforcement (Ice) could hand over the names and addresses of undocumented immigrants to the IRS, raising concerns about abuse of power from the Trump administration and the erosion of privacy rights.

If access to this confidential database is agreed upon, it would mark a significant shift, likely becoming the first time immigration officials have relied on the tax system for enforcement assistance in such a sweeping way.


Under the agreement, the IRS would cross-reference names of undocumented immigrants with their confidential taxpayer databases, a move that would breach the long-standing trust in the confidentiality of tax information.

Such data has historically been considered sensitive and thereby closely guarded, so the reported deal has raised alarm bells at the IRS, according to the Washington Post.

The IRS website says that undocumented immigrants “are subject to US taxes despite their illegal status”, and because most are unable to get social security numbers, the agency allows them to file with individual taxpayer numbers, known as ITINs.

The agency also subjects them to the same reporting and withholding obligations as it does to US citizens who receive the same kind of income.

More than half of the roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US file income tax returns to document their payments to the government.

While the IRS mandates that taxpayer information is protected, section 6103 on the agency’s websiteoutlines that “under court order, return information may be shared with law enforcement agencies for investigation and prosecution of non-tax criminal laws.”

However, sources familiar with the matter told the Washington Post that it would be rare for these privacy law exceptions to be weaponized for cooperation with immigration enforcement and that this is outside of standard procedure.

The potential shift in taxpayer data use, from once being used to rarely build criminal cases to now reportedly becoming instrumental in enforcing criminal penalties, aligns with many of the more aggressive immigration policies Trump is pursuing…….

www.theguardian.com

IRS nears deal with Ice to share data of undocumented immigrants – report

Immigration officials could give names and addresses, raising concerns about Trump administration’s abuse of power
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Can we use that information to kick out MAGA morons instead? Immigrants are much better for this country than the extreme right.
 
MT15 said:
Okay moving on, I would like to suggest you do a bit of reflection here.

Do the ends justify the means?

To a person with moral clarity, the answer should be no. Evil done in the pursuit of “good” is still evil. You seem to be swayed by your excitement at what they are doing to the point that you are okay with the immoral, unconstitutional and illegal means.

Do I have any confidence that you will engage in a bit of self-reflection? Well, considering the absolute stubborn inability to admit being the least bit wrong about your phrasing, no I do not.
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The ends does not justify the means. I never said it did. I simply wondered if the flights were designed to boost the self deportation app.
 
The imperial boomerang effect is the theory that techniques developed to repress colonised territories and peoples will, in time, inevitably be deployed at home.

Repressive policing, methods of detention and controlling dissent, forcing humans to produce goods and services for overlords in the metropolis, or even mass enslavement and killing: all “boomerang” back into that metropolis.

First, they are used against those who are seen as inferior; then, they are deployed even against those citizens with full rights and privileges if they dare to question authority. In short, the remote other eventually becomes the intimate familiar.

Donald Trump’s second term has so far been a case study in how systems built for those whose rights have been diluted or taken away eventually devour those who were assumed to be safe from such violations.

There are three ways in which this process of rebounding happens.

The first is through the creation of a domestic caste system that mirrors the one outside a country’s borders, as demonstrated in the recent treatment of those foreigners with permanent US residency and valid work visas who expressed dissenting views on Gaza.

Under Trump, their actions meet a threshold of insubordination that justifies their arrest, detention and deportation. The human rights of those individuals, such as due process, are cancelled.

In allying themselves with Palestinians and against US foreign policy, they are demoted to the level of those Palestinians in their treatment by the US government.

The tenuousness of permanent residency, valid work visas, green cards, marriage to US citizens and parenthood to American children starts to become clear.

These are all conditional rights that can be stripped away if, in your alliances and solidarities, you identify yourself as a subject of American power. You mark yourself out as a citizen of the periphery daring to ask for the rights of the citizens of the core………

www.theguardian.com

Trump’s imperial plan is now eroding the rights of people who thought they were safe | Nesrine Malik

His targeting of foreigners with residencies or work visas was inevitable: to achieve his aims, more and more people must be disenfranchised, says Guardian columnist Nesrine Malik
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superchuck500 said:
“We’re starting with the criminals”

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Unfortunately

“Newsweek reported that it was able to confirm that Dixon was being detained at the ICE site.
Dixon “has a single conviction from 2001 that has triggered the issue,” her lawyer, Benjamin Osorio, told Newsweek.
Osorio said Dixon has been convicted for embezzlement “for which she received 30 days in a halfway house and a $6,400 fine. She was never ordered to serve any active time in a jail or prison. It was the travel that triggered the issue and if she had not traveled, she would not be removable from the United States.”
Dixon’s scheduled hearing is set for July 17, said Cristobal.”

usa.inquirer.net

ICE detains Filipino green card holder who has lived in US for 50 years

Lewelyn Dixon, a Filipino green card holder, was detained by ICE while returning to Seattle from a trip to the Philippines.
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This is overkill.
 
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This admin - because you are right - Fox is a reflection of MAGA - cares nothing about the rule of law, or the constitution or this country itself.

We need conservatives to wake up and quit making excuses and defending them. We’re running out of time.
 

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