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    It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

    Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

    Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

     
    These are only municipal elections, we have been discussing the federal election, specifically the presidential election. If you would actually read the article you are quoting it gives a pretty good overview of the rationale behind allowing non-citizens to vote for school boards and local government. It also mentions that non-citizens were voting since practically the beginning of our Republic in some elections.

    What you have failed to address is that your first article, which you have been misrepresenting as proof of “thousands” of non-citizens voting in the federal election in TX, actually says that nobody has proof of anything of the sort happening. Care to address that?
    I read the article well. My initial post said any number is to many. The article list out several states where errors were recorded ON NATIONAL ELECTIONS.

    Will you admit that you had no idea that states were allowing non citizens to vote?
     
    I read the article well. My initial post said any number is to many. The article list out several states where errors were recorded ON NATIONAL ELECTIONS.

    Will you admit that you had no idea that states were allowing non citizens to vote?
    This is giving me flashbacks - your slip is showing, lol.

    I already knew some places allow non-citizens to vote in municipal elections. This isn’t even something new.

    Will you admit you have presented zero proof of “thousands” of non-citizens voting in any federal elections in TX or anywhere else? That was what you have been claiming for days now, after all.

    No states are “allowing” non-citizens to vote in federal elections. There could be a tiny number who try it and get caught - on a similar scale as the MAGA voters who vote twice or fill out a mail ballot for their dead spouse or their son. You don’t seem all bent out of shape about those. 🤷‍♀️
     
    This is giving me flashbacks - your slip is showing, lol.

    I already knew some places allow non-citizens to vote in municipal elections. This isn’t even something new.

    Will you admit you have presented zero proof of “thousands” of non-citizens voting in any federal elections in TX or anywhere else? That was what you have been claiming for days now, after all.

    No states are “allowing” non-citizens to vote in federal elections. There could be a tiny number who try it and get caught - on a similar scale as the MAGA voters who vote twice or fill out a mail ballot for their dead spouse or their son. You don’t seem all bent out of shape about those. 🤷‍♀️
    Please read the article. Would you like me to list each state. Off the top of my head, ohio was 168.
     
    Please read the article. Would you like me to list each state. Off the top of my head, ohio was 168.
    Here’s the entire Ohio discussion - you don’t seem to realize that this entire article is reporting GOP claims, right? Not facts - just GOP claims?

    In a state with about 8 million registered voters, a recent review of Ohio’s voter rolls resulted in the removal of 154,995 abandoned or inactive voter registrations. A far smaller number, 597, have been referred by Secretary of State Frank LaRose to the state’s attorney general for “further review and potential prosecution” for possibly registering to vote as a noncitizen. However, an even smaller number, 138, “appear to have cast a ballot in an Ohio election,” he said in a statement.

    LaRose, a Republican, wants more power to require proof of citizenship for voter registration. No one appears to have been charged with any crime.

    “It’s rare. But we keep it rare by enforcing the law,” LaRose said of noncitizens casting ballots during a hearing Wednesday on Capitol Hill, where he pushed for the legislation to require proof of citizenship to register.

    Giving the opposing argument at the same hearing, Arizona’s secretary of state, Democrat Adrian Fontes, argued that a 2004 ballot initiative that created a requirement for proof of citizenship to register to vote in his state had disenfranchised 47,000 people.

    “I take no pride in the idea that we have denied eligible citizens the right to vote in far greater numbers than we would have prevented the vanishingly rare noncitizen voting that is alleged to be happening across the United States of America,” Fontes said.

    Even though the instances of undocumented voter registration or voting are so rare and the few known instances are referred for prosecution, LaRose said during the hearing there should be “zero tolerance,” because, “every year, dozens of elections in Ohio come down to a single vote. And those are usually local elections, but those matter.”
     
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    So 168 is a GOP claim for Ohio. Here’s the companion article CNN wrote debunking the GOP claims in its other article. It was linked at the beginning of the article:

     
    Not sure what you are trying to prove with this info. 1 its federal cases, 2 it has nothing to do with criminals being let go with lax sentencing or no sentencing when a stolen gun is found our a crime is committed with a gun.

    This is why we don't fix gun crime, the left does not want to be honest about the problem. If we are honest, we may offend the poor and minorities and that is unacceptable. Meanwhile their children are killed day after day. And the left blames whitey. lol
    Well, a young Black boy was tragically killed after knocking on the wrong door while trying to pick up his sister, who was at the neighbor’s house. The homeowner, driven by fear of someone who looked different, shot him without asking any questions.

    This kind of fear—rooted in prejudice—is exactly what Trump and those who support him are promoting, and it’s the same fear you seem to perpetuate in your posts. Your constant narrative of fear and anger toward Black people and the LGBTQ+ community is apparent in every topic you engage in on this board, even when it has absolutely no relevance.
     
    So 168 is a GOP claim for Ohio. Here’s the companion article CNN wrote debunking the GOP claims in its other article. It was linked at the beginning of the article:

    So does it happen or not? From your article.

    It’s so uncommon that voting experts don’t see it as a problem plaguing US elections.
     
    So does it happen or not? From your article.

    It’s so uncommon that voting experts don’t see it as a problem plaguing US elections.
    You are ignoring the truth and focusing on extremely rare occurrences.

    Actually read the article - and quit cherry picking sentences. What is happening is that the GOP is happy to disenfranchise people who are not as likely to vote for them if they can falsely claim that non-citizens voting is a real problem.

    According to a claim from a different politician, tens of thousands of people were purged from voter rolls by the GOP with the excuse that they might not be citizens.

    What you have never addressed is that this supposed non-citizen voting, which we never see real examples of, is supposedly happening at about the same rate as MAGA voter fraud. Why do you care so much about one and not at all about the other?
     
    You are ignoring the truth and focusing on extremely rare occurrences.

    Actually read the article - and quit cherry picking sentences. What is happening is that the GOP is happy to disenfranchise people who are not as likely to vote for them if they can falsely claim that non-citizens voting is a real problem.

    According to a claim from a different politician, tens of thousands of people were purged from voter rolls by the GOP with the excuse that they might not be citizens.

    What you have never addressed is that this supposed non-citizen voting, which we never see real examples of, is supposedly happening at about the same rate as MAGA voter fraud. Why do you care so much about one and not at all about the other?
    Maybe you can provide some proof that thousands of people are being disenfranchised. You demand proof of voter fraud. Perhaps you can provide proof that thousands are being disenfranchised.
     

    On March 14, Washington, D.C., became the latest city to approve noncitizen voting, when a bill allowing the District’s roughly 42,000 noncitizens, including those who are undocumented, to vote in municipal elections became law after a bid by congressional Republicans to overturn it fell short.
    Did you know that the U.S. Presidential election is a Federal Election? Do you know the difference between municipal and Federal elections? Did you know they are governed differently? Do you realize this in no way proves the claim you've made that thousands of non-citizens voted for President?
     
    Maybe you can provide some proof that thousands of people are being disenfranchised. You demand proof of voter fraud. Perhaps you can provide proof that thousands are being disenfranchised.
    https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-september-2024

    The laws usually impact low income communities that usually have fewer resources, and thus longer lines. This dissuades people from voting, so there is some inference for some of the "disenfranchisement", but it is common sense. The people that create the laws are devious like that.
     
    Did you know that the U.S. Presidential election is a Federal Election? Do you know the difference between municipal and Federal elections? Did you know they are governed differently? Do you realize this in no way proves the claim you've made that thousands of non-citizens voted for President?
    I do. Do you think illegals should be able to vote in local elections?
     
    https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-september-2024

    The laws usually impact low income communities that usually have fewer resources, and thus longer lines. This dissuades people from voting, so there is some inference for some of the "disenfranchisement", but it is common sense. The people that create the laws are devious like that.
    Bruh, you know anyone who wants to vote can. The couple thousand people that voted illegally across the country is probably more than is disenfranchised by long lines.

    And the trope of low income/woman/minorities is old and worn out. Y'all need to turn the page on your playbook.
     
    how many more things are needed? The evil Texas allows 7 different things.



    I am sure you would agree that any number of illegal voters in unacceptable correct?
    I am quoting my own post. I did not say federal elections. I posted an article that showed its happening on a federal and a state level. My initial statement was "any number of illegal voters is unacceptable, correct? The reason for this was "all the people disenfranchised" jargon.

    Y'all are trying to twist the point away from illegals voting in elections.

    Do you agree illegals have a right to vote in local elections as set forth by numerous states?
     
    I do. Do you think illegals should be able to vote in local elections?
    The local laws allow that non-citizents can vote. You know - state rights...
    The article clearly states NON-citizents - Not illegals

    Workers on different types of Work Visas and familie members on dependend visas can vote

    Illegals can't because they aren't registered anywhere
     
    The local laws allow that non-citizents can vote. You know - state rights...
    The article clearly states NON-citizents - Not illegals

    Illegals can't because they aren't registered anywhere
    Lol. Do you agree that NON CITIZENS should be able to vote? Btw, many of these NON citizens naturalized as they were once illegal, but neither here nor there.

    Are NON citizens allowed to vote in Denmark?

    This a boring topic though.
     

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