Will “mass deportation” actually happen (4 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[bird]

Is there info where thousands of conservatives fraudulently voted?

Did Trump lose in 2020?

 

[Lapaz]

Is there info where thousands of conservatives fraudulently voted?

There is no evidence that there were thousands of fraudulent votes, whether they were MAGA, or anything else. Trump lost in 2020. Voter suppression, apathy and disinformation led to his win in 2024, and we’re all going to suffer for it.

 

[Dragon]

Right wing is afraid? Ma'am, here in the US only 1 party wants you to be able to vote without an ID. The right would love for us to be on lockdown just like Denmark,. Unfortunately the LEFT can not garner votes from the "minorities" if we had this type of system.

I am so happy to see your country being conservative. Please give us the same support.

By the way, nobody is denied medical treatment in the US except when you are not approved for a procedure because of Obama care. The emergency rooms a full of illegals and legals alike.

Why the Right Wing is Very Afraid

1. No Dark Money: Bribes are incredibly difficult to hide because all financial transactions are recorded. Cash spending is limited to $200 before requiring registration, and banks cap cash withdrawals at $200 per day.
2. Gun Control and Accountability: All firearms are registered to their owners, and every sale must be reported to the police. Selling an unregistered gun or possessing one can lead to jail time.
3. Tax Compliance for Employers: Business owners are unable to employ people without registering them for tax purposes, closing loopholes for undeclared labor.
4. Transparency for Foreign Income: Any foreign money deposited into your bank account triggers a mandatory form to document the source and purpose of the funds. As someone who worked for a German company as a freelancer for 10 years, I experienced this monthly.

 

[horse2H5]

Why the Right Wing is Very Afraid

1. No Dark Money: Bribes are incredibly difficult to hide because all financial transactions are recorded. Cash spending is limited to $200 before requiring registration, and banks cap cash withdrawals at $200 per day.
2. Gun Control and Accountability: All firearms are registered to their owners, and every sale must be reported to the police. Selling an unregistered gun or possessing one can lead to jail time.
3. Tax Compliance for Employers: Business owners are unable to employ people without registering them for tax purposes, closing loopholes for undeclared labor.
4. Transparency for Foreign Income: Any foreign money deposited into your bank account triggers a mandatory form to document the source and purpose of the funds. As someone who worked for a German company as a freelancer for 10 years, I experienced this monthly.

1. are you advocation that we can't take out more than $200 a day from our banks?
2. gun control---we need to attack the problem. Lets start in the HOOD where 80% of gun violence takes place. When someone gets caught with an illegal weapon the DA and judges need to lock the person up and not give them a slap on the wrist which is what happens today.
3. agree
4. agree

 

[horse2H5]

There is no evidence that there were thousands of fraudulent votes, whether they were MAGA, or anything else. Trump lost in 2020. Voter suppression, apathy and disinformation led to his win in 2024, and we’re all going to suffer for it.

did you read the article posted above? Is the article incorrect? Do you have info that counters the fact that thousands of illegals voted in Texas alone?

 

[Dragon]

1. are you advocation that we can't take out more than $200 a day from our banks?
2. gun control---we need to attack the problem. Lets start in the HOOD where 80% of gun violence takes place. When someone gets caught with an illegal weapon the DA and judges need to lock the person up and not give them a slap on the wrist which is what happens today.
3. agree
4. agree

1. Yep. If you can't take out more than 200 in cash a day then you can't bribe someone with a suitcase with 50K
2. Racist much?? If you look at Florida and people running around with automatic rifles outside schools "just to prove that they are allowed to do that" - scaring kids and forcing lock downs.
IF every weapon is registered then it is easy to find out where and who commited crimes so I guess that would be ok with you? I mean if you think that all gun crimes are committed "in the hood" then that should not be a problem for you?

 

[Dragon]

did you read the article posted above? Is the article incorrect? Do you have info that counters the fact that thousands of illegals voted in Texas alone?

Maybe you did not read it properly -
Abbott is spreading lies which does not check out when investigated

"Potential" - yet no one accused,
"Suggested" . People had become citizents and Texas had to settle the law suit

So a lot of hot air and innuendo


Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican, announced last month that an ongoing, yearslong review of voter rolls in Texas, which has nearly 18 million voters, had identified more than 6,500 “potential” noncitizens on the voter rolls. Of those, less than 2,000 have a voter history. He referred the latter to the state attorney general’s office “for investigation and potential legal action,” but no one has been accused of voting illegally.

In 2019, a review of voter rolls in the state seemed to suggest 95,000 noncitizens were on the rolls. But a closer look told a different story, according to a Texas Tribune report at the time. Texas used an old list of people who at one time had told the state they were noncitizens, but it turned out that many of those people had become citizens. Texas agreed to a court settlement to end the review.

 

[bird]

1. are you advocation that we can't take out more than $200 a day from our banks?
2. gun control---we need to attack the problem. Lets start in the HOOD where 80% of gun violence takes place. When someone gets caught with an illegal weapon the DA and judges need to lock the person up and not give them a slap on the wrist which is what happens today.
3. agree
4. agree

Gun Violence Rates In Rural Areas Match or Outpace Cities

As gun violence continues to fuel violent crime, some conservative politicians are not only refusing to support violence prevention measures but are also rolling back gun laws. Many of these same officials express the narrative that gun violence is only a problem in urban, Democrat-led cities...

www.ncja.org

Rural area gun violence rates are not less than your racist descriptor, the HOOD.

Here’s where guns used in crimes are bought | USAFacts

Over 70% of crime guns that the ATF traced were obtained from a dealer.

usafacts.org

 

[horse2H5]

1. Yep. If you can't take out more than 200 in cash a day then you can't bribe someone with a suitcase with 50K
2. Racist much?? If you look at Florida and people running around with automatic rifles outside schools "just to prove that they are allowed to do that" - scaring kids and forcing lock downs.
IF every weapon is registered then it is easy to find out where and who commited crimes so I guess that would be ok with you? I mean if you think that all gun crimes are committed "in the hood" then that should not be a problem for you?

1. No offense, but limiting a person to accessing their money is not very free. And let's pretend there were to be a limit on taking out cash: the limit would have to be WAY more than $200. And this would stop nothing. Stupid regulations do not stop people from accomplishing their intended goal.
2. Racist? Yes it is very racist for politicians and the courts to ignore where all of the gun violence takes place in this country. Instead we don't want to offend anyone. Well I would rather offend someone and fix the problem the placate the problem and allow it to become an epidemic. We need to stop this whole, you must be treated special because you are an underprivileged minority, specifically black. If we really want to fix gun crime in America, its not with registering more guns or taking guns from guys in the country. We need to start in the inner city where all the crime is happening.

The Disproportionate Impact of Gun Violence on Black Americans

Everything you need to know to fight America's gun violence epidemic: legislation, legal cases, reports, statistics and personal stories can be found here.

www.bradyunited.org

 

[Dragon]

1. No offense, but limiting a person to accessing their money is not very free. And let's pretend there were to be a limit on taking out cash: the limit would have to be WAY more than $200. And this would stop nothing. Stupid regulations do not stop people from accomplishing their intended goal.
2. Racist? Yes it is very racist for politicians and the courts to ignore where all of the gun violence takes place in this country. Instead we don't want to offend anyone. Well I would rather offend someone and fix the problem the placate the problem and allow it to become an epidemic. We need to stop this whole, you must be treated special because you are an underprivileged minority, specifically black. If we really want to fix gun crime in America, its not with registering more guns or taking guns from guys in the country. We need to start in the inner city where all the crime is happening.

The Disproportionate Impact of Gun Violence on Black Americans

Everything you need to know to fight America's gun violence epidemic: legislation, legal cases, reports, statistics and personal stories can be found here.

www.bradyunited.org

1. You can still use MobilePay, bank transfers (which are free and widely used here), and debit cards. However, these methods leave records. Cash is rarely used except for small purchases, and the only people who deal in large amounts of cash are typically criminals.

So no, this isn’t "stupid legislation." You also can't deposit more than a certain amount of cash without it being reported to the tax authorities. If such deposits happen frequently or involve significant sums, they will contact you for an explanation.

Cash is essentially the only form of untraceable money, which is why these laws exist.

2. I thought you believed everyone should be treated equally. If strict gun laws are implemented, they should apply to everyone—regardless of race or where they live. It's important to note that there are plenty of criminals outside inner cities as well. And here’s a fact: most school shooters with more than five victims are white male adolescents.

 

[horse2H5]

1. You can still use MobilePay, bank transfers (which are free and widely used here), and debit cards. However, these methods leave records. Cash is rarely used except for small purchases, and the only people who deal in large amounts of cash are typically criminals.

So no, this isn’t "stupid legislation." You also can't deposit more than a certain amount of cash without it being reported to the tax authorities. If such deposits happen frequently or involve significant sums, they will contact you for an explanation.

Cash is essentially the only form of untraceable money, which is why these laws exist.

2. I thought you believed everyone should be treated equally. If strict gun laws are implemented, they should apply to everyone—regardless of race or where they live. It's important to note that there are plenty of criminals outside inner cities as well. And here’s a fact: most school shooters with more than five victims are white male adolescents.

I am not even entertaining 1 as in all honesty is nonsense. ( I mean no disrespect to you, just my opinion)

I agree all should be treated equal. Gun crime should be automatic jail time. You get caught with a stolen gun, automatic jail time. Not commuted sentences, not time served, make the penalty severe. The problem is how many gun crimes go unpunished when the suspect is apprehended. How many people are caught with stolen guns a get a slap on the wrist.

If we are serious about gun violence being an issue, lets get after it.

You keep talking about school shooting, you can add them all up over the last 10 years, and chicago beats them every year. I am not saying we don't need to address the mental health of these children (hence the reason we should not be promoting transgenderism in schools), but the gun problem in America is in the black neighborhoods. Ma'am I do business in NOLA east, I have plenty first hand knowledge of gun crime.

 

[Dragon]

I am not even entertaining 1 as in all honesty is nonsense. ( I mean no disrespect to you, just my opinion)

I agree all should be treated equal. Gun crime should be automatic jail time. You get caught with a stolen gun, automatic jail time. Not commuted sentences, not time served, make the penalty severe. The problem is how many gun crimes go unpunished when the suspect is apprehended. How many people are caught with stolen guns a get a slap on the wrist.

If we are serious about gun violence being an issue, lets get after it.

You keep talking about school shooting, you can add them all up over the last 10 years, and chicago beats them every year. I am not saying we don't need to address the mental health of these children (hence the reason we should not be promoting transgenderism in schools), but the gun problem in America is in the black neighborhoods. Ma'am I do business in NOLA east, I have plenty first hand knowledge of gun crime.

How about adressing the powerty to begin with? I've been to NOLA lots of times and yes powerty is a Huge problem.

And yet Illinois is only nr 4 on the list of school shootings

https://www.statista.com/statistics/971506/number-k-12-school-shootings-us-state/



And just stop with that "anti transgender" rubish in every single thread. It does NOT belong here !!!

 

[Optimus Prime]

Gun Violence Rates In Rural Areas Match or Outpace Cities

As gun violence continues to fuel violent crime, some conservative politicians are not only refusing to support violence prevention measures but are also rolling back gun laws. Many of these same officials express the narrative that gun violence is only a problem in urban, Democrat-led cities...

www.ncja.org

Rural area gun violence rates are not less than your racist descriptor, the HOOD.

Here’s where guns used in crimes are bought | USAFacts

Over 70% of crime guns that the ATF traced were obtained from a dealer.

usafacts.org

Red State Murder Problem

Almost put this in the Media Tracker threadInteresting read and definitely goes against the commonly heard narrative =================================================Every news outlet from FOX to CNN to The New York Times to local newspapers has a story with attention-grabbing headlines like...

madaboutpolitics.com

 

[bird]

I am not even entertaining 1 as in all honesty is nonsense. ( I mean no disrespect to you, just my opinion)

I agree all should be treated equal. Gun crime should be automatic jail time. You get caught with a stolen gun, automatic jail time. Not commuted sentences, not time served, make the penalty severe. The problem is how many gun crimes go unpunished when the suspect is apprehended. How many people are caught with stolen guns a get a slap on the wrist.

If we are serious about gun violence being an issue, lets get after it.

You keep talking about school shooting, you can add them all up over the last 10 years, and chicago beats them every year. I am not saying we don't need to address the mental health of these children (hence the reason we should not be promoting transgenderism in schools), but the gun problem in America is in the black neighborhoods. Ma'am I do business in NOLA east, I have plenty first hand knowledge of gun crime.

Transgenderism has exactly zero to do with gun violence. Again gun violence rates are equal or worse in rural areas.

Your entire racist position regarding gun violence is due not to “the HOOD” being more violent but due to there being more people in the area. As population concentrates the rates do not increase but the raw numbers are just higher because there are more people. The link in my last post laid that out for you.

Actually, transgenderism does evoke emotional violence against those kids by people who want to “fix” them.

 

[horse2H5]

How about adressing the powerty to begin with? I've been to NOLA lots of times and yes powerty is a Huge problem.

And yet Illinois is only nr 4 on the list of school shootings

https://www.statista.com/statistics/971506/number-k-12-school-shootings-us-state/



And just stop with that "anti transgender" rubish in every single thread. It does NOT belong here !!!

Let's not shift goal post. You had 4 points.

I agreed with 2, 1 was not in the realm of reality and we can debate the 3rd one to come up with a solution.

Do you disagree with my thoughts on being tough on crime when caught with illegal gun etc?

 

[SystemShock]

1. Yep. If you can't take out more than 200 in cash a day then you can't bribe someone with a suitcase with 50K

Take it from someone who lives in a country with very restrictive banking laws due to cartel money laundering: that don't work. It only serves to make the day-to-day of your average citizen more frustrating.

 

[horse2H5]

Red State Murder Problem

Almost put this in the Media Tracker threadInteresting read and definitely goes against the commonly heard narrative =================================================Every news outlet from FOX to CNN to The New York Times to local newspapers has a story with attention-grabbing headlines like...

madaboutpolitics.com

That is not number of murders. But let's stick with your premise. Where were the murders in those states? Since Mississippi was at the top, were the murders in crystal springs or Jackson?

 

[Dragon]

Take it from someone who lives in a country with very restrictive banking laws due to cartel money laundering: that don't work. It only serves to make the day-to-day of your average citizen more frustrating.

I doubt you have the same level of financial oversight that we do. To be honest, cash hasn’t been widely used here for the last decade. In most stores, if there are four checkout lanes, three will likely be for non-cash payments only.

We have a state-supported debit card payment system that is not only free to use (no fees for banks or vendors) but also highly secure. Personally, I think it’s been at least a year since I last withdrew money from an ATM and that was in Hamburg, Germany, and I haven’t physically stepped into a bank since before COVID began.