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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    I doubt it will matter they will find a way to cancel it or prevent it.

    This is my greatest complaint about Democrats.
    Give Republicans an ounce of power, an inch of leverage and they'll move mountains to enact their agenda or stop the Dems.
    Give Dems a majority and somehow they can't do diddly.
     

    From the article that tweet refers to is one of the reasons it's not wise to have arbitrary maximum age limits.

    Monday, before the boxes were delivered to LaRose’s office, Citizens Not Politicians activists packed the Ohio Statehouse Atrium for a pep rally where the keynote speaker was former Ohio Supreme Court Justice Maureen O’Connor, their matron saint.

    “Ladies and gentlemen, let me let you in on a little secret,” O’Connor told an enthusiastic crowd at the Statehouse Monday. “This amendment will pass. We will prevail.”
    O’Connor, a Republican and former lieutenant governor, jumped into the cause with both feet after going through a year of frustration in 2022, when she was chief justice of an Ohio Supreme Court majority that rejected six different maps adopted by the Ohio Redistricting Commission, an intensely partisan group made up these days of five Republicans and two Democrats.
    The chief justice sided with the three Democrats on the court, but the Republican majority, led by Senate President Matt Huffman, gamed the system long enough to get their way.

    And O’Connor could not run for re-election that year because of Ohio’s judicial age limits law.
     
    From the article that tweet refers to is one of the reasons it's not wise to have arbitrary maximum age limits.
    Normally I agree with you, but I have PTSD from Ginsburg refusing to retire during Obama’s TWO terms. She basically wiped out her legacy to me by that act of hubris. She had 8 years to retire while a democrat was in office, she knew the stakes. Her refusal to retire has done real damage to women.
     
    “Trump is the apotheosis of this moral degeneration of conservatism because he’s out there stealing with both hands and it’s right in your face.”

    So said Joe Conason, veteran reporter and author of a lacerating new book, The Longest Con: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Frauds Hijacked American Conservatism.

    He spoke on Monday, the same day the US supreme court ruled that presidents are immune from prosecution for official acts – even as Donald Trump, the former president and presumptive Republican nominee, faces 44 federal and 10 state criminal charges to go with 34 guilty verdicts handed down in New York.


    “Nixon said, ‘I am not a crook.’ Could Trump really say ‘I’m not a crook’ and have anyone believe him? Nobody would believe that, including his own followers. They know that he’s out to scam money for himself, and they don’t seem to mind.

    “Take the grifting around ‘stop the steal’, post-election, 2020-21. Led by Trump’s son in law [Jared Kushner], they knew they were going to do it before the election was even over. ‘We’re going to keep our fundraising operation intact.’ And they booked a quarter of a billion dollars in a couple of months. It was amazing. One of the biggest rip-offs ever.”

    On the page, Conason charts 75 years of rightwing rip-off merchants attacking liberals and making money. Beginning with the supposedly anti-communist crusade of the lawyer Roy Cohn in the mid-1950s, proceeding through the rise of the Moral Majority, the attempt to bring down Bill Clinton and the brief age of the Tea Party, he ends with Cohn’s protege, Trump, poised to retake power.

    To Conason, the key to the story is not how much money such grifters raise but where that money comes from: those grifters’ own supporters.…..

     
    A sitting Republican member of Congress. In case you cannot read the Community Note, 6 out of the 8 people she claimed as signers of the Declaration of Independence, did not sign it.

     
    A sitting Republican member of Congress. In case you cannot read the Community Note, 6 out of the 8 people she claimed as signers of the Declaration of Independence, did not sign it.


    If you want to keep arguing we have to get back to what the founders wanted, it might be a good idea to accurately know who the founders are and what they said and did.

    This would be like a Christian evangelist, who's trying to convert people, telling them that they need to follow Jesus's Twelve Commandments given to Noah on inscribed tablets of gold after Noah was reincarnated from a lotus flower after Galactic Overlord Xemu/Xenu trapped him in a compound of frozen alcohol and glycol, deposited him in a volcano, and then nuked him.
     
    So according to Twitter, this is the GOP platform. It contradicts what Project 2025 says in a few instances and it is written at a 5th grade reading level with zero explanations of how they will achieve any of these silly statements.

     
    "Regular People"
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    ........Now, Rep. Jim Banks' (R-Indiana) use of the flag is drawing attention.

    Banks posted an image of the flag on X, formerly Twitter, after Trump was convicted on 34 criminal charges in his hush money/falsified business records trial. And he even made it a pinned tweet.

    When NOTUS asked Banks about posting an Appeal to Heaven image on X on May 30, the Indiana Republican responded, "I'll let you make your own conclusions…. I'm not sure what there is to misconstrue. We're in unprecedented times, and November will be the result of regular people taking our country back."

    Banks continued, "And then, we'll have a reset. And then, we'll take back our government and our country from the elites and those who are trying to destroy it. So, you can infer whatever you'd like from that post."............

     
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    Shortly after the 2022 midterm elections, Robert Spindell sent out an email to his fellow Republicans explaining why he was pleased with the results even though Tony Evers, a Democrat, had just won a second term.

    Spindell, one of three Republicans on the body that oversees elections in Wisconsin, said “we can be especially proud of the City of Milwaukee (80.2% Dem vote) casting 37,000 less votes than cast in the 2018 election with the major reduction happening in the overwhelming Black and Hispanic areas.”

    The comment sparked outrage and calls for Spindell to resign. Spindell, who also served as a fake elector in 2020, has refused, saying, “The last thing I want to do is suppress votes.”


    While it was astonishing to see a top Republican official boasting of lower voter turnout with such bluntness, it wasn’t surprising to anyone to see Republicans celebrating fewer votes in Milwaukee, Wisconsin’s most populous city.

    Nearly 223,000 Black people live in Milwaukee – roughly 60% of Wisconsin’s entire Black population. That means that Black voters in the city can have an outsize effect on election outcomes in the state – they have long been a bastion of Democratic votes and are crucial for any Democrat who wants to win the state (More than one out of every 10 votes Joe Biden received in Wisconsin in 2020 came from the city of Milwaukee). Activists have long understood attacks on the city to be code for attacks on Black voters.

    Now Republicans are set to descend on the city they have long attacked to formally nominate Donald Trump to a second term at the Republican national convention in July.

    “They’re not coming here because they love the city of Milwaukee at all,” said Angela Lang, the executive director of Black Leaders Organizing Communities, a non-profit in the city. The decision to hold the GOP convention in Milwaukee, a city Lang said Republicans often “say racist dog whistles about” was a “slap in the face”.……

     
    Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) on Thursday accused “the angry feminist movement” of emasculating men and said the U.S. should “work our way back” to 1960 if former President Donald Trump wins in November.

    In a House floor speech that could have been lifted from Margaret Atwood’s dystopian novel The Handmaid’s Tale, Grothman went after supporters of government-funded childcare programs and said President Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty “took the purpose out of the man’s life, because now you have a basket of goodies for the mom.” He added, “They’ve taken away the purpose of the man to be part of a family. And if we want to get America back to, say, 1960, where this was almost unheard of, we have to fundamentally change these programs.”

    Grothman said “the breakdown of the family” was caused by the U.S. government in the 1960s and “people like Angela Davis, well-known communist, people like the feminists who were so important in the 1960s.”

    “So I hope the press corps picks up on this, and I hope Republican and Democrat leadership put together some sort of plan for January, in which we work our way back to where America was in the 1960s,” he added.

    Grothman, a fervent supporter of Trump, hailed the overturning of Roe v. Wade in June 2022, saying after the decision: “Over the years, millions of children have had their dreams stolen before seeing the light of the day. But today marks a brighter future for the hearts and minds of unborn children, women, and families.

    “I commend the six justices who voted to overturn Roe for having the courage to base their decision on sound legal principles rather than a fashionable line of thinking that rules academia, Hollywood, and the mainstream media.”.................

     

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