What happens to the Republican Party now? (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[fooferdoggie]

Of course, we know these idiots don't follow the 10 commandments. plus there are three versions of them.

Louisiana’s 49th in Education’: Liberal Fox News Contributor Gives Brutal Response to State’s New Ten Commandments Law​

‘Louisiana’s 49th in Education’: Liberal Fox News Contributor Gives Brutal Response to State’s New Ten Commandments Law

Democratic strategist and Fox News contributor Leslie Marshall questioned the priorities of Louisiana politicians a day after the governor signed a law requiring public schools to display the Ten Commandments in every classroom.

www.mediaite.com

 

[fooferdoggie]

And the author's response to complaints...

'Don't look at it' – co-author of Ten Commandments law has advice for non-believers

Ventrella sparred with Sanchez, saying that the displays are historical documents that aren’t forcing anyone to believe one viewpoint.

www.wwltv.com

well, I doubt she has looked at them either.

 

[Incumbent]

And the author's response to complaints...

'Don't look at it' – co-author of Ten Commandments law has advice for non-believers

Ventrella sparred with Sanchez, saying that the displays are historical documents that aren’t forcing anyone to believe one viewpoint.

www.wwltv.com

Her comments perfectly capture the ignorance and entitlement of so many "christians" in this country.

Posting a list of her preferred religious tenets in every classroom isn't going to do anything to address the bad things she acknowledges that are happening in the world.

This is (unconstituational) window dressing rather than doing any of the hard work of creating and fostering conditions that actually improve the lives of people and support the socioeconomic wellbeing of the vast working class.

 

[Optimus Prime]

And the author's response to complaints...

'Don't look at it' – co-author of Ten Commandments law has advice for non-believers

Ventrella sparred with Sanchez, saying that the displays are historical documents that aren’t forcing anyone to believe one viewpoint.

www.wwltv.com

put up passages from the Koran then say "Don't look at it" and see how that goes

Seems to me something similar happened in Texas, a school was required to put up the 10 Commandments, which the teacher did....written in Arabic

Which went over about as well as you'd expect. I'll see if I can find and article on it

 

[coldseat]

Here's the interview with her. These people can never clearly articulate their reasoning because what they are clearly trying to do is what they claim they aren't doing.

CNN anchor spars with GOP lawmaker on Louisiana Ten Commandments bill: ’Answer the question’ | CNN Politics

Louisiana State Representative Lauren Ventrella, co-author of House Bill 71, joins CNN’s Boris Sanchez to discuss the bill which mandates that a poster-size display of the Ten Commandments in every classroom at schools that receive state funding, from kindergarten through the university level.

www.cnn.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[MT15]

Somehow he thinks it’s better to claim he got information from social media about a bill and that steered his vote, than to say the truth that Trump told him to vote against it, so he did. Just

 

[MT15]

Another shameless liar.

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[bird]

To call Patrick a piece of excrement is insulting to excrement

 

[MT15]

Shameless liars, almost every single one. He thinks he’s fooling us, when we can see his votes. He voted against the IVF protection act.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Shameless liars, almost every single one. He thinks he’s fooling us, when we can see his votes. He voted against the IVF protection act.

yes, we have seen so much of this these idiots vote against something and then brag about how much they support it. They have learned well at the knee of the master blaster liar.

 

[coldseat]

yes, we have seen so much of this these idiots vote against something and then brag about how much they support it. They have learned well at the knee of the master blaster liar.

It's not the politicians, it's the voters. They do that because Republican voters don't hold right wing politicians accountable on policy issues/votes. They only care when it's some hot button, right wing, propagandist, social Issues or some slight against Trump. That's all their voters pay attention to and vote on. That's why our country is so screwed up right now.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

This is how you fight with the GOP. Give their dirty tactics back to them. They started this culture war.

 

[Optimus Prime]

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — Louisiana has become the first state to require that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom under a bill signed into law by Republican Gov. Jeff Landry on Wednesday.

The GOP-drafted legislation mandates that a poster-sized display of the Ten Commandments in “large, easily readable font” be required in all public classrooms, from kindergarten to state-funded universities. Although the bill did not receive final approval from Landry, the time for gubernatorial action — to sign or veto the bill — has lapsed.

Opponents question the law’s constitutionality, warning that lawsuits are likely to follow. Proponents say the purpose of the measure is not solely religious, but that it has historical significance. In the law’s language, the Ten Commandments are described as “foundational documents of our state and national government.”

The displays, which will be paired with a four-paragraph “context statement” describing how the Ten Commandments “were a prominent part of American public education for almost three centuries,” must be in place in classrooms by the start of 2025.

The posters would be paid for through donations. State funds will not be used to implement the mandate, based on language in the legislation.

The law also “authorizes” — but does not require — the display of the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence and the Northwest Ordinance in K-12 public schools.

Not long after the governor signed the bill into law, civil rights groups and organizations that want to keep religion out of government promised to file a lawsuit challenging it.……

New law requires all Louisiana public school classrooms to display the Ten Commandments

The legislation that Republican Gov. Jeff Landry signed into law requires the display of the Ten Commandments in every public school classroom.

apnews.com

Good read
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I was 10 in 1962, when the supreme court ruled, in Engel v Vitale, that the officially sanctioned recitation of prayer in public schools violated the constitution’s first amendment, which prohibits the establishment of a state religion.

Before that, my school day started with the Pledge of Allegiance, followed by an appeal to God. We rose and pushed our chairs under our desks. Then we stood erect, gazed at the flag sticking out at an angle above the blackboard, and placed our right hands over our hearts.

After the pledge, we bowed our heads and said a prayer composed by the New York state board of regents, which held authority over the schools: “Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence upon Thee, and we beg thy blessings upon us, our parents, our teachers and our country.”

As far as I could tell, none of this presented a problem for my classmates, almost every one of them Italian, Greek, or Irish Catholic. Many kids clasped their hands during the prayer.


But as the only Jew in the class and the daughter of militantly atheist socialists to boot, saying these words every day was no simple exercise.

To my parents, both the pledge and the prayer constituted authoritarian brainwashing. They had reason to suspect oaths of allegiance. Under the anticommunist regime of Senator Joe McCarthy, my father, a high school teacher, was required to sign a loyalty oath disavowing membership in the Communist party. He refused, and, like other government employees on the left, resigned rather than be fired.

Although the Pledge of Allegiance contained no such explicit ideology, in 1954 Congress added the words “under God” to the pledge, a rebuke to godless communism.

My parents weren’t thrilled by this conflation of patriotism and theism. But even if the US deserved fealty – and my mom and dad were not convinced it did – they objected to children being trained to give it by rote.

It was the prayer that really riled them, though. Its authors called it “non-denominational”, but that did not distract the supreme court, or my parents, from the law’s intent: “to further religious beliefs”, said the justices – a clear breach of the separation of church and state. “In this country, it is no part of the business of government to compose official prayers for any group of the American people to recite as a part of a religious program carried on by government,” they wrote……

Jeff Landry, the Republican governor of Louisiana, recently signed a law requiring that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every classroom. “If you want to respect the rule of law,” he said, “you’ve got to start from the original lawgiver, which was Moses.”

It was a nod to the “Judeo” in the “Judeo-Christian values” the Christian right is forever invoking – never mind that some people are neither Jews nor Christians, but Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, or none of the above. The Republican state representative Dodie Horton insisted that the law “doesn’t preach a certain religion”, but merely “shows what a moral code we all should live by is”.……

Making US public schools display the Ten Commandments isn’t harmless or neutral | Judith Levine

I was 10 when the US supreme court ruled against school prayer. Now Louisiana and Texas want to turn back the clock

www.theguardian.com

 

[barbar]

And the author's response to complaints...

'Don't look at it' – co-author of Ten Commandments law has advice for non-believers

Ventrella sparred with Sanchez, saying that the displays are historical documents that aren’t forcing anyone to believe one viewpoint.

www.wwltv.com

So if non-believers shouldn't look at it, then it's not for them essentially. Believers already know it and don't need to look at it, so it's not for them.

So, WHO exactly is this for???

IMO it's just another opportunity for the religious cult in the south to pat themselves on the back for accomplishing nothing in the name of God. If they want to win people over then why oh why do they continue to be so off-putting?

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

And the author's response to complaints...

'Don't look at it' – co-author of Ten Commandments law has advice for non-believers

Ventrella sparred with Sanchez, saying that the displays are historical documents that aren’t forcing anyone to believe one viewpoint.

www.wwltv.com

coming from the party who can't do the same...lol