What happens to the Republican Party now? (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[DaveXA]

The problem with electing all of these stupid performative culture war TV types with no relevant experience in anything is that they don’t know how anything works. We see this over and over - just so stupid about how the government actually functions.

Performative...indeed.

 

[bird]

The problem with electing all of these stupid performative culture war TV types with no relevant experience in anything is that they don’t know how anything works. We see this over and over - just so stupid about how the government actually functions.

Perhaps the Sgt. at Arms can arrest Gym Jordan on the way by.

 

[DaveXA]

Perhaps the Sgt. at Arms can arrest Gym Jordan on the way by.

Well, I mean, fair is fair, lol.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Perhaps the Sgt. at Arms can arrest Gym Jordan on the way by.

Can Greene be arrested as well...?

Crockett slams Greene as ‘racist’ following contentious House committee meeting | CNN Politics

Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett criticized Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, calling her “racist,” following a tense House Oversight markup Thursday evening that quickly devolved into personal attacks.

www.cnn.com

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

The original bill, which was primarily to restore the pre-Covid anti-masking bill (which are fairly common) had an exception for health reasons . . . the Republicans struck that out.

In other words, they could have had their uncontroversial bill to return the state to a pre-Covid footing but allow for a mask for health reasons because good lord who wouldn't allow that? But no, they're so damn caught up in their Q-Anon, YouTube, culture war that they want to punish people for thinking differently than they do.

North Carolina is an odd state. For all of the amazing research and development and institutes of higher-education and centers of banking and health care, the backward arse bigoted rural Republicans have kept control of the state house - and they often legislate purely out of spite.

Maybe the governor will veto it?

 

[DaveXA]

If they lose the election, will the party clean MAGA from their ranks? That sure would be nice.

 

[MT15]

If they lose the election, will the party clean MAGA from their ranks? That sure would be nice.

If I had to bet, my bet would be that everyone in the GOP develops amnesia about Trump and just pretend they didn’t kiss his arse for 8 years.

 

[DaveXA]

If I had to bet, my bet would be that everyone in the GOP develops amnesia about Trump and just pretend they didn’t kiss his arse for 8 years.

I'm not so sure. I'm 100% sure at least one of his kids are going to attempt to ride that gravy train next.

 

[MT15]

I'm not so sure. I'm 100% sure at least one of his kids are going to attempt to ride that gravy train next.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

Youngkin ran as a more moderate R. I sure hope the people of VA are noting there is no such thing any longer. Certainly not him.

“Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) vetoed bills meant to ensure access to contraceptives and close tax loopholes for Confederate heritage groups Friday night, continuing a record-breaking veto spree that also nixed measures to ban guns from psychiatric hospitals and remind parents to store weapons out of their children’s reach.”

Va. Gov. Youngkin vetoes bills on birth control, Confederate tax loopholes — The Washington Post

Many of the vetoes were related to culture-war issues that could play into this fall’s presidential and congressional contests.

apple.news

 

[Maxp]

I know some people that work directly with Youngkin in VA. Word is that he is an entitled business man that is not used to hearing no and can't see any fault in any of his actions. Completely tone deaf to anyone but himself.

 

[Optimus Prime]

A dark money group with ties to Trump’s inner circle dropped more than $90m on ads described as vile, racist and transphobic in the second half of 2022 alone, new tax records obtained by Documented and the Guardian reveal.

The staggering sum makes the newly created group, which is based out of the nerve center for the Maga movement, one of the top political spenders in the last election cycle, as it now appears to gear up to influence voters with violent, bigoted messaging in 2024.

The group, called Citizens for Sanity, formed in mid-2022, and quickly drew attention as it flooded the airwaves in battleground states and swing districts with deeply offensive and oftenmisleading ads.

Some ads targeted LGBTQ+ rights and attacked “Biden and his radical allies” for supporting “the woke left’s war on girls’ sports” and the “woke war on our children”. Otherspictured Latino immigrants and characterizedthem as criminals “draining your paychecks, wrecking your schools, ruining your hospitals [and] threatening your family”, declaring that “Joe Biden and the Democrats have erased our southern border”.

Another ad featured scene after scene of violent crime involving Black people, blaming the disturbing imagery on the “radical leftwing love affair with criminals”. The racist ads seem to be part of a bigger strategy to try to suppress voting among communities of color.


Not long ago, this kind of extreme messaging would be relegated to far-right internet message boards like 4Chan. But Citizens for Sanity even ran these ads during the World Series, and tax records show that Citizens for Sanity spent a stunning $93m in the final months of 2022, with nearly all of those funds going towards payments to outside media firms for “advertising and promotion”.

These new records show that wealthy special interests are spending incredible amounts of money on messaging campaigns that mainstream extremism and push patent disinformation to voters in critical swing states and districts.

The group’s 2022 ads attacked Democrats and promoted divisive “culture war” issues, but were carefully worded to avoid triggering campaign finance reporting that year. These tax records offer the first comprehensive look at the group’s total spending last election cycle.…….

Trump-linked dark-money group spent $90m on racist and transphobic ads in 2022, records show

Revealed: Citizens for Sanity was one of top political spenders last election cycle and is back for 2024 with more extreme messaging

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

A worrying number of prominent Republicans have indicated in recent interviews that they may not accept the outcome of November’s US election.

The next presidential race is already all but certain to be a rematch of the 2020 contest between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, which ended with a clear victory for the Democrat that the incumbent refused to accept.

Mr Trump’s denial sparked months of farcical legal challenges, backroom plotting, menacing phone calls, and rampant but baseless conspiracy theories about rigged voting machines and lost ballots in support of the beaten candidate’s utterly spurious narrative that the election was “stolen” from him by fraud on a massive scale...........

While Trump allies like JD Vance and Lindsey Graham have said they will accept the outcome so long as it is “fair”, a number of their fellow Republicans have declined to make a similar commitment, some of whom – not entirely uncoincidentally – are understood to be in contention to be Mr Trump’s running mate and are therefore keen to curry favor.

Here’s a look at the Republicans who have said something other than an unequivocal “yes” when asked if they would accept whatever transpires on 5 November.

Elise Stefanik

Speaking to Kristen Welker on NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday 6 January, the New York congresswoman was asked: “Would you vote to certify, and will you vote to certify, the results of the 2024 election no matter what they show?”

“We will see if this is a legal and valid election,” she eventually replied, going on to complain about efforts, then underway, to remove Mr Trump from primary ballot papers in Colorado and Maine citing an anti-insurrectionist clause in the US Constitution.

“What we’re seeing so far is that Democrats are so desperate, they’re trying to remove President Trump from the ballot. That is a suppression of the American people........

Byron Donalds

The Florida congressman was interviewed by Axios in March and revealed that if he was Mr Trump’s vice-president and placed in the same position Mike Pence found himself in on 6 January 2021 – a hypothetical that could not come to pass until it came to certifying the results of the 2028 presidential election – he may not act as Mr Pence did and take a stand.

“If you have state officials who are violating the election law in their states... then no, I would not,” Mr Donalds answered when the proposition was put to him, adding that he “knew” some states did not follow election laws in 2020.

Tim Scott
Also speaking to Ms Welker on Meet the Press, the South Carolina senator was likewise asked on Sunday 5 May whether he would accept the results and said only: “At the end of the day, the 47th president of the United States will be President Donald Trump.”

Pushed by the host for a more emphatic commitment, Mr Scott said simply: “That is my statement.”

Pressed a third time, he merely repeated: “I look forward to President Trump being the 47th president – the American people will make the decision.”

Doug Burgum

The North Dakota governor, like Mr Scott a former Republican presidential contender turned possible running mate for Mr Trump, took a similar line on the same day when he dodged the question by telling Jake Tapper on CNN’s rival Sunday show State of the Nation that he was “looking forward to next January when Vice-President Harris certifies the election for Donald Trump”............

Marco Rubio

Also appearing on Meet the Press, this time on Sunday 19 May, the Florida senator – once derided by Mr Trump as “Little Marco” but who now says he would be “honored” to be the presumptive GOP nominee’s veep – was presented with the same question.

“Will you accept the election results of 2024 no matter what happens?” Ms Welker asked, once again.

“No matter what happens? No, if it’s an unfair election,” Senator Rubio answered............

All the Republicans who have signaled they won’t accept election results

A number of prominent GOP members, some of whom are in contention to be Donald Trump’s running mate, have declined to commit to endorsing the outcome of November’s vote

www.independent.co.uk

 

[MT15]

I guess all MAGA thinks other people should pay their legal expenses.

 

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[DaveXA]

Of course not. Lmao.