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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    DaveXA said:
    It's incredibly shameful that people you would think would have some sense of self-respect would stand up for their spouse and against Trump. I just don't get it.
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    no one stands against him thats why he thrives. if a republican stands against him they are shunned. he has absolute control and he has absolute no scruples.
     
    If yall haven't seen it yet, find Kyle Clark moderating CO District 4 debate.

    Dude wrekt Boebert 3 times
    On theatre incident
    On voting no for infrastructure yet taking credit
    On what they are doing (Republicans in congress) to help combat rising food prices.

    This dude is a boss.
     
    About Europe but good read
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    This week, citizens of all 27 EU member states will begin to vote in the European parliament elections. One outcome seems inevitable: the far right will make significant gains.

    Polls suggest that the two groups in the European parliament that harbour far-right parties could secure about 20% of the seats, a fourfold increase since the early 1990s. In four of the six founding EU states, these parties lead in the polls.

    Where does this far-right success come from? One explanation is that far-right parties have become more moderate over the years, while voters have become more radicalised. Yet research indicates that this explanation does not make sense.

    On their core issues, such as immigration and anti-establishment politics, far-right parties are as radical as ever, and according to research, voters are no less trusting of their politicians and parliaments than they were three decades ago, no less satisfied with the workings of democracy, and their attitudes to immigration have remained relatively unchanged.

    What has changed is not their ideologies, but that parties and voters have been driven into each other’s arms.

    Imagine a small snowball being pushed down a snow-covered hillside. As it rolls, the ball picks up more snow and becomes bigger and faster. No push in isolation creates this giant, fast-moving ball of snow. It is the combined effort that does the trick. Once the snowball gains momentum, it is difficult to stop.


    The snowball effect is a useful metaphor for understanding the far right’s increasing success. It is the result of a multitude of political, social, economic and cultural developments that together have created its momentum.

    The first push came from the weakening of social ties. Take the Netherlands as an example. In the 1950s, a typical person raised in a Catholic family attended Catholic schools, consumed Catholic media and, eventually, voted for a Catholic party. Today, such predictable voting patterns are rare.

    Higher levels of education have empowered individuals to make independent political choices, breaking free from traditional party loyalties.

    Starting in the 1960s and gathering steam since the turn of the millennium, electoral volatility has enabled far-right parties to attract voters who are no longer bound by old allegiances.

    Where individualisation led to “dealignment” (voters breaking free of existing political alignments), globalisation contributed to “realignment” (new alignments between voters and parties).

    Those who benefited from Europe’s open borders – the highly educated “winners of globalisation” – contrasted sharply with those who felt threatened economically and culturally by these changes.

    Immigration became a key topic in election campaigns and public debates, drawing more attention to far-right parties.

    But to get a better understanding of how the snowball really gained momentum, we need to examine the strategic behaviour of far-right parties themselves.

    In the decades after the second world war, far-right parties were still heavily associated with fascism and nazism. To become acceptable, these parties had to gain democratic legitimacy. They did so by embracing populism as a key part of their discourse.

    Populism claims that the will of the people should guide democratic decisions and that elites corrupt this process. Focusing on populism rather than fascism provided far-right parties with a democratic reputation and helped them gain legitimacy.

    Far-right parties also tried to modernise their image by breaking ties with more extreme elements.

    For instance, in 2011, Marine Le Pen embarked on a strategy of de-demonisation (dédiabolisation) to detoxify her party’s extremist reputation.

    She expelled extremist politicians, denounced fascism and antisemitism and even ousted her more extreme father from the party. In 2018, the Front National party was renamedRassemblement National (National Rally).

    The goal was to appeal to more voters by emphasising that the party had become a more moderate version of itself.

    Did these far-right parties really become more moderate? No. When it comes to their core policy positions, almost all of them are as radical and far-right as ever. Only their image has changed.

    For example, the rising star of the far right in France, Jordan Bardella, is the son of Italian and Algerian immigrants, and grew up poor on a housing estate in the suburbs of Paris.

    He hasn’t diluted Le Pen’s anti-immigration message; he has just sought to make it respectable……..

    www.theguardian.com

    Don’t blame voters for a far right surge in Europe. Blame the far right’s mainstream copycats

    Far right ideology has not changed, it has become normalised in the minds of voters, thanks to a snowball effect
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    Republican governors gathered in the fossil-fuel rich state of Louisiana on Monday to rail against the Biden administration’s climate agenda and lay out plans to “unleash American energy”, alarming community advocates and climate experts.

    “President Biden has done nothing but attack American energy,” said the Louisiana governor Jeff Landry, who led the Wednesday press conference.

    Landry was joined by by Republican governors from Alaska, Georgia, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma and Virginia.

    Hours before the presser, the group sent a joint letter to Biden requesting pro fossil-fuel rules and regulations, including an “end [to] regulatory overreach that unnecessarily restricts domestic energy production”, speeding the approval of federal drilling permits, and ending the pause on new liquefied natural gas export licenses.

    The letter does not mention that US oil and gas production has soared under President Biden, reaching record levels in 2023……

    www.theguardian.com

    Republican governors gather to attack Biden’s climate agenda

    Governors say president has ‘done nothing but attack American energy’ and urge end to US fossil-fuel rules and regulations
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
     
    efil4 said:
    If yall haven't seen it yet, find Kyle Clark moderating CO District 4 debate.

    Dude wrekt Boebert 3 times
    On theatre incident
    On voting no for infrastructure yet taking credit
    On what they are doing (Republicans in congress) to help combat rising food prices.

    This dude is a boss.
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    This is a longer clip of a few interactions.

    oh man.

     
    So, in a public theater setting, she is railing against being "filmed in a private moment"?

    And this woman is supposedly a law maker?

    Says all you need to know about the folks in CO that voted for this moron.....
     
    SFIDC3 said:
    So, in a public theater setting, she is railing against being "filmed in a private moment"?

    And this woman is supposedly a law maker?

    Says all you need to know about the folks in CO that voted for this moron.....
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    she got all apoplectic when talking about the "misnfo" out there about disrespecting theater staff and that she flipped off one of the employees was false...


    Ooops.


    lol

     
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