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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Ha!
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    After the 2020 election, Republican Kristopher Stark stormed off in a huff over Donald Trump not being reelected. Stark claims that the election was actually "stolen" from Trump. He sent a letter to the Seminole County Supervisor of Elections a request to take him off of the voter rolls. Now, the Orlando Sentinel reveals that is causing some problems.

    “My vote means nothing. Cancel my registration,” Stark wrote in his Jan. 2021 letter. “You + the system are a joke. Thank you, communists.”

    Now that he's running for office in Florida House District 37 there's a problem. A 2021 bill passed by the GOP-run state house requires that candidates running for their party's nomination must be a registered party member for at least 365 days prior to the election............



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    brandon said:
    Jon Stewart should consider a presidential run. If there’s anyone who could absolutely make Trump look like the fool he is on a debate stage it’s him. Or Colbert.
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    Stewart is better than Colbert.
    Stewart has a fine grasp of factual details.
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    Went to Kristopher Stark’s campaign website.

    Had to wash my iPad in bleach.

    Anyone remember when candidates had actual brains and usually a semblance of critical thinking?
     
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    Donald Trump’s red MAGA hats earned $80,000 per day for his 2016 presidential election campaign, Jared Kushner writes in his upcoming memoir.

    The former president’s son-in-law writes that Mr Trump’s aides only ordered 100 of the hats to begin with before they became a hit with his supporters on the campaign trail……

    www.independent.co.uk

    Trump made $80k a day from selling MAGA hats on 2016 campaign trail, says Kushner

    Campaign sold enough hats to cover most of 2016 daily running costs, Trump’s son-in-law writes
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    Optimus Prime said:
    for what it’s worth
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    Donald Trump’s red MAGA hats earned $80,000 per day for his 2016 presidential election campaign, Jared Kushner writes in his upcoming memoir.

    The former president’s son-in-law writes that Mr Trump’s aides only ordered 100 of the hats to begin with before they became a hit with his supporters on the campaign trail……

    www.independent.co.uk

    Trump made $80k a day from selling MAGA hats on 2016 campaign trail, says Kushner

    Campaign sold enough hats to cover most of 2016 daily running costs, Trump’s son-in-law writes
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    I'm not sure what is funnier, them making 80K a day on trucker caps or 40 year old Kushner writing a memoir.
     
    As Roger Stone prepared to stand trial in 2019, complaining he was under pressure from federal prosecutors to incriminate Donald Trump, a close ally of the president repeatedly assured Stone that “the boss” would likely grant him clemency if he were convicted, a recording shows.


    At an event at a Trump property that October, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) predicted that Stone would be found guilty at his trial in Washington the following month but would not “do a day” in prison.

    Gaetz was apparently unaware they were being recorded by documentary filmmakers following Stone, who special counsel Robert S. Mueller III had charged with obstruction of a congressional investigation.


    “The boss still has a very favorable view of you,” said Gaetz, stressing that the president had “said it directly.” He also said, “I don’t think the big guy can let you go down for this.”

    Gaetz at one point told Stone he was working on getting him a pardon but was hesitant to say more backstage at the event, in which speakers were being filmed for online broadcast.

    “Since there are many, many recording devices around right now, I do not feel in a position to speak freely about the work I’ve already done on that subject,” Gaetz said.

    The lawmaker also told Stone during their conversation that Stone was mentioned “a lot” in redacted portions of Mueller’s report, appearing to refer to portions that the Justice Department had shown to select members of Congress confidentially in a secure room. “They’re going to do you, because you’re not gonna have a defense,” Gaetz told Stone…….


     
    Optimus Prime said:
    As Roger Stone prepared to stand trial in 2019, complaining he was under pressure from federal prosecutors to incriminate Donald Trump, a close ally of the president repeatedly assured Stone that “the boss” would likely grant him clemency if he were convicted, a recording shows.


    At an event at a Trump property that October, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) predicted that Stone would be found guilty at his trial in Washington the following month but would not “do a day” in prison.

    Gaetz was apparently unaware they were being recorded by documentary filmmakers following Stone, who special counsel Robert S. Mueller III had charged with obstruction of a congressional investigation.


    “The boss still has a very favorable view of you,” said Gaetz, stressing that the president had “said it directly.” He also said, “I don’t think the big guy can let you go down for this.”

    Gaetz at one point told Stone he was working on getting him a pardon but was hesitant to say more backstage at the event, in which speakers were being filmed for online broadcast.

    “Since there are many, many recording devices around right now, I do not feel in a position to speak freely about the work I’ve already done on that subject,” Gaetz said.

    The lawmaker also told Stone during their conversation that Stone was mentioned “a lot” in redacted portions of Mueller’s report, appearing to refer to portions that the Justice Department had shown to select members of Congress confidentially in a secure room. “They’re going to do you, because you’re not gonna have a defense,” Gaetz told Stone…….


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    Republicans in Congress this month blocked a bill protecting the ability to cross state lines for an abortion, despite strong public support for such a measure.


    The Texas attorney general said he would be willing to defend the state’s defunct anti-sodomy law, while a GOP Senate candidate in Arizona has called for a nationwide abortion ban — two positions also out of step with public opinion.


    And some of the party’s most vocal members traffic in extreme and inflammatory rhetoric — from Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.) claiming that heterosexual people will disappear while denouncing “trans terrorist” educators, to Rep. Matt Gaetz (Fla.) calling abortion rights protesters ugly, “Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a thumb.”


    Uncompromising positions and loaded rhetoric on key social issues are escalating concerns within GOP circles that the party is moving too far out of sync with popular opinion, projecting new hostility to gay people and potentially alienating women voters in high-stakes races.

    The Supreme Court’s decision overturning Roe v. Wade and ending a nationwide right to abortion last month has spawned strict new bans and stirred fears that gay rights and access to contraception could be next — shifting the focus from other culture-war battles where Republicans felt they had a winning message.

    “I feel we’re on this sort of seesaw where one party sort of gets the upper hand on social-cultural issues, then they overplay that hand,” said Christine Matthews, a moderate Virginia Republican and longtime strategist for GOP candidates. “Republicans have taken things too far.”……


    “Every village has an idiot, and we have several villages,” said one prominent GOP strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be more candid.

    The strategist added: “I don’t think there’s probably anything said before Oct. 15 that’s going to stick around till Election Day. And it’s got to be said by a high-enough profile [figure].”

    Others saw the demeaning words as part of a long-running problem for a party that has lost crucial support from moderate women in past elections. “Comments like that do a tremendous amount of damage to the Republican brand,” said GOP consultant Lauren Zelt, who worked on Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign in 2012.


    Jennifer Lim, the executive director of Republican Women for Progress — which has criticized the GOP’s transformation under Trump — agreed. She said LGBTQ rights are another social issue where Republicans are “moving in the wrong direction” without a cohesive response from the party…….


     
    Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, an autocrat astride a country whose GDP is more meager than that of Kansas and whose population is smaller than Michigan’s, has become a role model for America’s right-wing populists who admire his blueprint for dismantling democracy.

    Shunned in Western Europe, he naturally goes where he is appreciated — and next week will arrive to what is likely to be an adoring welcome at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, in Dallas, where he will deliver a keynote address.
U.S. conservatives who lionize Mr. Orban appear unfazed by his racist, retrograde rhetoric.

    After all, it’s part and parcel of his brand as what he calls an “illiberal” democrat, although his adherence to democratic norms is tissue-thin, at best. Now they are shrugging at his latest jeremiad, in which he attacked the United States for its sanctions against Russia, joked about Nazi gas chambers and, borrowing a page from Nazi ideology, warned that Europeans must not “become peoples of mixed race.”


    Mr. Orban’s words, in the course of an anti-immigration diatribe, triggered outrage across Europe. One of his longtime confidants, Zsuzsa Hegedus, who is Jewish, resigned, saying the speech would appeal to the “most vile racists.”

    And yet, there was little upset among CPAC’s organizers, who treated the uproar over the Hungarian leader’s bigotry as if it were a tiff over regulatory policy. “Let’s listen to the man speak,” Matt Schlapp, CPAC’s chair, told an interviewer. “And if people have a disagreement with something he says, they should raise it.”

    In fact, most of the CPAC crowd, whose ranks are heavily populated by former president Donald Trump’s partisans, is unlikely to raise objections.

    To the contrary, many of Mr. Trump’s adherents, like those of Mr. Orban, are enamored of “great replacement” theorists, who regard immigration, pluralism and diversity as existential threats to Western — and White — civilization and a menace to what they consider the ethnic essence of the United States itself.

    Tucker Carlson, a Fox News pundit, is among the exponents of that view, and a devotee of Mr. Orban…….

     

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