What happens to the Republican Party now? (17 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

I didn't write that article

But this point you made:

"Saluting the flag...Faith in God....Respecting the Police...etc., etc...I admit that I am in favor of all those things. I'd like to see an America where the majority of my fellow citizens want those things for themselves as well."

Wanting an America where the majority wants those things is the point of the article

What about the people who think it's silly to salute the flag if you aren't in the military?

What about the people who believe in a different God? or No God at all?

What about the people who have been humiliated, antagonized, abused and brutalized by the police? Should George Floyd's daughter have to respect the police?

People want to return to a time when men were men, women were women, men did manly things and women did lady things. There was a place for minorities (and they damn well better stay in it) and homosexuals were not to be seen at all

You say you don't wish ill on those who disagree and I'll choose to believe that and give you credit for it

Plenty of people don't feel this way. They feel that what other groups would call progress they'd call a betrayal and deterioration of what "America is supposed to be" and as 'progress' continues they are getting angrier and angrier and more and more desperate (and don't get me started on those who deliberately feed that anger, not for any real conviction or belief, but just for clicks, money and votes)

The flag is just cloth....but that cloth represents our country. I choose to salute the flag when the public is asked to do so because at that moment I am letting others know that I am proud to be an American.
I believe God loves everyone and if they don't think so or don't believe that then I hope that somehow...someday they WILL realize that God loves them.
It is not right/proper....it is not Biblical to wish ill to those who are not like you. In fact we Christians are commanded to love such folks....love...not hate.
So that's me. I can only speak for myself.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

The flag is just cloth....but that cloth represents our country. I choose to salute the flag when the public is asked to do so because at that moment I am letting others know that I am proud to be an American.
I believe God loves everyone and if they don't think so or don't believe then I hope that somehow...someday they WILL realize that God loves them.
It is not right....it is not Biblical to wish ill to those who are not like you. In fact we Christians are commanded to love such folks....love...not hate.
So that's me. I can only speak for myself.

Now some might say...."But I remember when Steve posted in all capitals! He was clearly upset!"
Yes. I am not perfect and neither is my pastor or the members of the church choir I sing in.
Only Jesus is perfect.

 

[Saintamaniac]

I want to go back to the America that believed in the what the constitution stands for.
I want to go back to the America where people minded their own business as long as what other people were doing didn't break the law.
I want to go back to the America where people didn't care if someone saluted the flag or burned it or wiped their arse with it because it was none of their business and it wasn't breaking any laws.
I want to go back to the America where law enforcement were held to a higher standard than the people they were charged with policing, were punished under the law for violating someone's rights and were always truthful in dealings with the public.
I want to go back to the America where the only thing that mattered was whether or not could afford something; not if you shared the same beliefs or what color you were.
I want to go back to the America where it mattered if your told the truth or not and your belief in a lie didn't matter.
Unfortunately for me, that America never existed.

We'd be better off if Americans just practiced a few simple rules:
If somebody is doing something that is not against the law, mind your own damn business.
If somebody decides to not stand for the flag or turn their back on it, mind your own damn business.
If two men or two women want to marry each other, mind your own damn business.
If the god I decide to worship is different than your god, mind your won damn business.
Basically, if more Americans decided to mind their own damn business as long as the law was not being broken, we wouldn't live in the current state of shirthood that is the USA right now.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

To some extent, there’s a grain of truth to this roseate view of the 1950s. It was a time of extraordinary economic growth, ..........................................

As Dinah Shore sang in a 1950s Chevrolet ad, a tribute to the car as a symbol of freedom, “Drive your Chevrolet through the U.S.A., America’s the greatest land of all.”

To be sure, this bounty represented the byproduct of a unique moment in history when America’s economic competitors had been cratered by war and ideology, leaving them without the capacity to manufacture the goods we sold to them. America’s singular prosperity and “greatness” came, in large measure, because other countries weren’t yet ready to compete.

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MSN

Yes. My father told me 60 years ago that we could make a better product cheaper than anyone else, which gave us the edge over the rest of the world. When I hear "make America great again", I think of making better products. In the mid-60s the Caddilac Fleetwoods were a better car than the Rolls Royce of the time. So, while we can't dominate the way we could, we can certainly make better products than we do.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[cuddlemonkey]

The flag is just cloth....but that cloth represents our country. I choose to salute the flag when the public is asked to do so because at that moment I am letting others know that I am proud to be an American.
I believe God loves everyone and if they don't think so or don't believe that then I hope that somehow...someday they WILL realize that God loves them.
It is not right/proper....it is not Biblical to wish ill to those who are not like you. In fact we Christians are commanded to love such folks....love...not hate.
So that's me. I can only speak for myself.

Is it loving or hateful to deny basic human rights to the LGBTQ+ community?

Is it loving or hateful to spread lies that undermine the very foundation of our government?

Is it loving or hateful to storm the US Capitol with weapons in order to hurt and/or kill elected officials to further a coup?

Is it loving or hateful to demonstrate in favor of a potential presidential nominee by displaying Nazi symbols and antisemitic slogans?

These are things that are central to the GOP's current identity. To vote for any GOP candidate is to vote for these things, period. You don't get to look at these things happening and vote for the GOP anyway and still claim you are engaging in loving behavior.

 

[MT15]

Meanwhile a rising star in the Republican Party is just showing teachers all the love and respect he thinks they deserve:

 

[bird]

Meanwhile a rising star in the Republican Party is just showing teachers all the love and respect he thinks they deserve:

Goebbels must be applauding in hell.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Meanwhile a rising star in the Republican Party is just showing teachers all the love and respect he thinks they deserve:

Doesn't anything embarrass this guy?

 

[Optimus Prime]

…..Instead, Republicans yesterday had to return to their least favorite Trump-era activity: pretending to be unaware of what he had just said.

The former president made headlines yesterday when he suggested that homeless people be housed in suburban tent cities, and that the US should combat drug dealers by emulating authoritarian countries by bringing in the death penalty for drugs offenses.

“If you look at countries throughout the world, the ones that don’t have a drug problem are those that institute a very quick trial death penalty sentence for drug dealers,” he said.

I asked McCarthy if he agreed. The Minority Leader asked me in return when Trump floated that proposal. I reminded him that he’d just said it — at a conference McCarthy himself had attended.

McCarthy responded by equivocating about “what the Democrats have done at the border” with drugs, adding that fentanyl is now the number one killer of Americans.

The whole affair felt very similar to the days when Republicans would routinely insist they hadn’t seen Trump’s tweets during his presidency.

During those days, whenever he made inflammatory remarks that impeded their agenda, I would ask members of the GOP what they thought of his claims — only to be told that they had no idea what I was talking about.

That seemed unlikely, considering Trump’s tweets were regularly making international headlines at the time.

Once again, Republicans are facing a massive dilemma: Trump drives his most dogged supporters to the polls, and the party owes him some degree of gratitude for its success with working-class, non-white voters.

But at the same time, Republicans need more than Trump’s base to win back Congress. They need to reach dissatisfied suburbanites and even people who voted for Biden, and Trump’s saber-rattling – combined with the fact that it was his three Supreme Court nominees who helped overturn Roe v Wade – could jeopardize their chances at victory…….

Republicans are pretending not to have heard what Trump just said

Kevin McCarthy and Mike Pence are doing a special kind of dance right now

www.independent.co.uk

 

[MT15]

Speaking of being embarrassed-R leadership will never change. They will pretend they don’t know what idiotic thing Trump says instead of forthrightly dealing with the issue that he is unhinged and manifestly unfit for office.

On a separate but related note - after the deal with Manchin was announced just after there was bipartisan passage of the CHIPS bill - I am hearing that McConnell was outraged. Supposedly he had been assured the reconciliation bill was dead, and that is the only reason he allowed the CHIPS bill to go forward. Now he is encouraging Rs in the House to kill the CHIPS bill.

If true, what this tells me is that Rs don’t care about getting anything done that will help the US. All they care about is playing their partisan games. Meanwhile, Dems are now getting ready to propose a bill that would stop members of Congress from trading stocks - they will either have to divest or participate in mutual funds. Watch Rs kill that also.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Ha!
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After the 2020 election, Republican Kristopher Stark stormed off in a huff over Donald Trump not being reelected. Stark claims that the election was actually "stolen" from Trump. He sent a letter to the Seminole County Supervisor of Elections a request to take him off of the voter rolls. Now, the Orlando Sentinel reveals that is causing some problems.

“My vote means nothing. Cancel my registration,” Stark wrote in his Jan. 2021 letter. “You + the system are a joke. Thank you, communists.”

Now that he's running for office in Florida House District 37 there's a problem. A 2021 bill passed by the GOP-run state house requires that candidates running for their party's nomination must be a registered party member for at least 365 days prior to the election............

MSN

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[Optimus Prime]

Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked a bill to help veterans exposed to toxic burn pits weeks after the measure initially sailed through the Senate with 84 votes, angering Democrats, veterans groups and comedian Jon Stewart, a leading proponent to aid the community.

Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), chairman of the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee, was particularly incensed by the turn of events. Tester, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), other lawmakers and Stewart on Thursday morning joined veterans outside the Capitol — who originally came to Washington to see the bill pass — to assail the GOP.

“It just makes the gut punch that more devastating,” Stewart said, given the number of veterans who came to Washington hoping the bill would pass. “Their constituents are dying.”

“This is a disgrace,” he added.

The bill would significantly change how the Department of Veterans Affairs cares for veterans who were exposed to toxic substances by compelling VA to presume that certain illnesses are linked to exposure to hazardous waste incineration, mostly focused on the issue of burn pits from recent wars. That would remove the burden of proof from the injured veterans.

Democrats accused Republicans of voting against it in retaliation for a deal announced earlier by Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) that will allow Democrats to move ahead on an economic, health-care and climate package without Republican votes...........

MSN

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[Optimus Prime]

for what it's worth
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Four national polls from the past week have shown Democrats favored by more voters to control Congress compared to Republicans, as many analysts and GOP leaders continue to express confidence that the liberal party will lose control of at least the House and possibly the Senate in the November midterm election.

Despite the grim expectations for Democrats, four separate polls published since last Friday have shown them with more support than Republicans among voters.

The Georgetown Institute of Politics and Public Service Battleground Civility Poll conducted by Lake Research Partners/The Tarrance Group and published Thursday showed Democrats narrowly ahead of Republicans in a generic congressional ballot by 2 points. The liberal party was backed by 48 percent of voters compared to 46 percent who supported the conservative party.

The survey included 1,000 registered voters with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 points.

Another poll conducted by USA Today/Suffolk University from July 22 to 25 showed Democrats 4 points ahead. That survey had Democrats backed by 44 percent of registered voters compared to 40 percent who supported Republicans. Notably, the same poll carried out in mid-June showed Democrats and Republicans tied at 40 percent—meaning Democrats have gained 4 points...........

Democrats Beat Republicans for Control of Congress in 4 Polls in Past Week

 

[J-DONK]

Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked a bill to help veterans exposed to toxic burn pits weeks after the measure initially sailed through the Senate with 84 votes, angering Democrats, veterans groups and comedian Jon Stewart, a leading proponent to aid the community.

Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), chairman of the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee, was particularly incensed by the turn of events. Tester, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), other lawmakers and Stewart on Thursday morning joined veterans outside the Capitol — who originally came to Washington to see the bill pass — to assail the GOP.

“It just makes the gut punch that more devastating,” Stewart said, given the number of veterans who came to Washington hoping the bill would pass. “Their constituents are dying.”

“This is a disgrace,” he added.

The bill would significantly change how the Department of Veterans Affairs cares for veterans who were exposed to toxic substances by compelling VA to presume that certain illnesses are linked to exposure to hazardous waste incineration, mostly focused on the issue of burn pits from recent wars. That would remove the burden of proof from the injured veterans.

Democrats accused Republicans of voting against it in retaliation for a deal announced earlier by Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) that will allow Democrats to move ahead on an economic, health-care and climate package without Republican votes...........

MSN

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The armed services are overwhelmingly Republican. This was a bill that largely benefited their base.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

The armed services are overwhelmingly Republican. This was a bill that largely benefited their base.

They don't care.

 

[nolaspe]

The armed services are overwhelmingly Republican. This was a bill that largely benefited their base.

Jon Stewart WENT OFF, as he should have... seriously, eff the gop reason #1,776... (profanity in the vid)

 

[brandon]

Jon Stewart WENT OFF, as he should have... seriously, eff the gop reason #1,776... (profanity in the vid)

Jon Stewart should consider a presidential run. If there’s anyone who could absolutely make Trump look like the fool he is on a debate stage it’s him. Or Colbert.