Trump Election Interference / Falsification of Business Records Criminal Trial (Trump guilty on all 34 Counts) (6 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

What will happen now that former President Donald Trump was found guilty (in 34 counts) by the jury?
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Speculation on the judge relating to sentencing?
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Appeals?
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Political Damage?
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Trump found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records. Here's a breakdown.

A New York jury unanimously found Donald Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, a stunning conclusion to the historic trial of the former president.

www.yahoo.com

 

[coldseat]

Before this started I would have thought Donald had a 20% chance of conviction. I think it's inversed or higher now. His defense is that Cohen made this all up as a vindictive rat. That's it.

You have to believe Cohen was magnanimous enough to pay Daniel's out of the goodness of his heart. Then turned into a jilted lover when he didn't get brought in during the transition.

That's the part right there that should be impossible for any logical person to get past. You want me believe that Michael Cohen, the guy that was on the stand this week, took out a 130,000 HELOC on his house to pay off Daniels without Trump's direct assurance that he was going to get paid back? That he did it just as a "favor" with no expectations and without the purpose of keeping it out of the press before the election so that it wouldn't hurt Trump?

That dog don't hunt.....

 

[SaintForLife]

Stealing $50k is a serious crime, but violating campaign laws to the tune of several hundred thousand above legal limits is perhaps more serious, because the foundation of the government rests on the integrity of elections, and campaign laws are intended to protect the integrity. I think the current laws are dismally inadequate, but campaign limits and disclosure is one of the few checks left. Also, I'm not sure that Bragg knew about the theft, so Cohen may yet be charged.

He wasn't charged with violating any election laws and falsying business records is a misdemeanor.

If you think Bragg didn't know about the theft before the immunity agreement then I have some swampland in Florida to sell you.

 

[efil4]

then I have some swampland in Florida to sell you.

Mar A Lago is for sale????

I guess losing $327 million in Q1 will do that....idk

 

[SaintForLife]

There’s no proof he knew anything about it before the indictment. Just your suspicion.

What lies on the stand this trial? I don’t believe there were any. I know the defense claims so, but it’s totally not convincing.

And you think Trump is such an upstanding citizen that he hired this guy totally unaware he could get him to lie, cheat and steal for him? lol Cohen is a sleaze bag because that was Trump’s desire for an attorney. That’s who Trump wanted.

Anderson Cooper on Cohen's lie

 

[MT15]

Anderson Cooper on Cohen's lie

The “lie” that was debunked yesterday with a photo of Trump with his aide at the exact time of the phone call? Lololololol

Cooper is corporate media, isn’t he?

 

[SaintForLife]

The “lie” that was debunked yesterday with a photo of Trump with his aide at the exact time of the phone call? Lololololol

Cooper is corporate media, isn’t he?

Oh really? Well CNN didn't get that memo. You must be at the top of their mailing list.

I gave an explanation about the corporate media in the other thread. Did you have trouble understanding it?

 

[MT15]

Oh really? Well CNN didn't get that memo. You must be at the top of their mailing list.

I gave an explanation about the corporate media in the other thread. Did you have trouble understanding it?

lol. No I don’t think I read it. This may shock you, but I don’t read most of your stuff. It’s all nonsense, usually.

Let me guess your explanation: if “corporate media” says something I like, then it’s accurate. If it says something negative about Trump it must be a lie. I bet I came pretty close.

 

[SaintForLife]

lol. No I don’t think I read it. This may shock you, but I don’t read most of your stuff. It’s all nonsense, usually.

Let me guess your explanation: if “corporate media” says something I like, then it’s accurate. If it says something negative about Trump it must be a lie. I bet I came pretty close.

It's quite obvious from your replies that you don't read my posts based on your talking points.

 

[MT15]

It's quite obvious from your replies that you don't read my posts based on your talking points.

Self-care is important.

 

[FullMonte]

A question for the legal experts…

Apparently the law makes it a felony for Trump to cause a falsification of business records in an attempt to commit another crime or to cover up another crime.

If Trump tells Cohen and Weisselberg to handle the Stormy Daniels thing, and they come up with the whole plan to disguise it as legal income without telling Trump…would his direction to handle it be enough to “cause the falsification”?

 

[SaintForLife]

Self-care is important.

Right. You need to reserve your energy for your talking points. Joe is going to need them. It's looking rough for him.

 

[MT15]

Right. You need to reserve your energy for your talking points. Joe is going to need them. It's looking rough for him.

You’re coping pretty hard these days, lol. Bless your heart.

 

[coldseat]

A question for the legal experts…

Apparently the law makes it a felony for Trump to cause a falsification of business records in an attempt to commit another crime or to cover up another crime.

If Trump tells Cohen and Weisselberg to handle the Stormy Daniels thing, and they come up with the whole plan to disguise it as legal income without telling Trump…would his direction to handle it be enough to “cause the falsification”?

That seems implausible with all of the testimony in this trial detailing Trumps need to be in the weeds and know all the details of his money.

 

[MT15]

I just saw this and had to laugh. These acolytes are so ANGRY! And performative. Reminded me of someone who has been posting up a storm today, lol.

 

[FullMonte]

That seems implausible with all of the testimony in this trial detailing Trumps need to be in the weeds and know all the details of his money.

While I agree with you that Trump most likely knew what was going on, I'm looking at this like a juror. If the prosecution does not have credible evidence to show that Trump actually knew about this particular event, and the defense argues that perhaps Weiselberg and Cohen did it all on their own, would that be enough to meet the requirements of the law.

 

[Lapaz]

He wasn't charged with violating any election laws and falsying business records is a misdemeanor.

If you think Bragg didn't know about the theft before the immunity agreement then I have some swampland in Florida to sell you.

The other laws that he violated are supposedly going to be covered next week.

I also have swamp land for you if you believe Trump is innocent of violating campaign laws.

 

[brandon]

He wasn't charged with violating any election laws and falsying business records is a misdemeanor.

How do you still not understand the most basic of facts about this case?

Are you stupid?

 

[coldseat]

While I agree with you that Trump most likely knew what was going on, I'm looking at this like a juror. If the prosecution does not have credible evidence to show that Trump actually knew about this particular event, and the defense argues that perhaps Weiselberg and Cohen did it all on their own, would that be enough to meet the requirements of the law.

The defense never tried to make that argument/justification, so I'm not sure why jurors would create it. The defenses argument is that the money was for legitimate legal services and that Cohen is lying about it to get back at Trump.