Trump Election Interference / Falsification of Business Records Criminal Trial (Trump guilty on all 34 Counts) (2 Viewers)

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    What will happen now that former President Donald Trump was found guilty (in 34 counts) by the jury?
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    Speculation on the judge relating to sentencing?
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    Appeals?
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    Political Damage?
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    Trump found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records. Here's a breakdown.

    A New York jury unanimously found Donald Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, a stunning conclusion to the historic trial of the former president.
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    Optimus Prime said:
    When, in the early days, Donald Trump’s diehard fans failed to show up in front of 100 Centre Street at the Manhattan courthouse to clamor about the rank injustice of the case of The People of the State of New York v Donald J Trump, the lonely defendant roused himself from his fitful slumbers to choreograph a dance of the marionettes.

    The political delegations that started appearing on 14 May attired for perfectly flattering cosplay in Trump matching red ties was a refrain of surrogates echoing insults and imprecations that if the former president were to mutter himself would earn him further contempt of court citations.

    Trump assembled around him a miniature court and hierarchy that populated a desolation row. In the front row were seated Eric Trump and his wife, Lara Trump, now installed as the co-chair of the Republican National Committee.

    There were the senators and congressmen, the failed presidential candidates and hopeful running mates who repeated Trump’s scripted talking points against the judge, the prosecutors and the justice system.

    There were the Fox News anchors, Jeanine Pirro, who exchanged smiles and nods with Trump, and Laura Ingraham, reprimanded by court officers for staring through forbidden binoculars as though she were on safari. There was former Trump White House adviser Boris Epshteyn, indicted in the Arizona fake electors scheme.

    The carnival of the Trump vassals was a pop-up court society that formed below the authoritarian ruler. Their ranked serfdom revealed the status pyramid. Like the witnesses, whoever they have been, the trial has dramatized the web of the only kind of relationship Trump knows: master and servant.

    Day after day, Trump’s underworld has been peeled away. His main line of defense is that the people he has chosen to associate with are sleazy, corrupt and dishonest, and therefore cannot be believed. Illustrating their rotten characters proves Trump must be innocent.

    Their offense is that they no longer serve him. The reams of hard physical evidence, meanwhile, must be ignored. Trump’s projection reached its risible apogee when his lawyer accused Stormy Daniels of profiting from selling merchandise, which she batted away with a quip: “Not unlike Mr Trump.”

    The courtroom drama has more than legal implications. While the testimony and evidence may nail Trump on 34 felony charges of business fraud, the trial has painted a vast canvas of human bondage.

    As the prosecution has built its case, each and every person called to the stand has described their own strange master-servant relationship with Trump.……..

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    Michael Cohen learned that membership in Trump’s inner circle has a harsh cost | Sidney Blumenthal

    Mike Johnson and other Republicans vying for Trump’s approval haven’t realized that they, too, will one day pay a price
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    It is embarrassing that all of these politicians are showing up to support a man on trial for cheating on his wife with a couple of women, falsifying documents to hide the cheating, and having the most shifty and immoral people as his representatives. On top of that, everyone knows that Trump is guilty of much more that he has yet to be indicted upon nor convicted of, but everyone with common sense knows he has just been shifty enough to avoid getting caught. Trump is so sleazy that he is a national embarrassment, and it is equally embarrassing that politicians are falling all over themselves to associate themselves with him. Trump is the posterchild for the type of person that every moral person has always admonished people not to associate with. He's the last person anyone should trust, so in my opinion, every politician that shows up to this trial has a stain on their reputation.
     
    So here's what comes next:

    This afternoon: "Charging conference" - the charges are the final instructions the judge gives to the jurors before they go to deliberation. The charges are based on a process where the lawyers have submitted their requested charges, based on the law and the state's model charges, and then there is some final argument and adjustments that the court must oversee before the final set of charges are set.

    Next Tuesday: Closing arguments will begin and are expected to take a full day or perhaps more. Then the jury will be charged and sent to deliberate.

    The court already had scheduled this week to have Wednesday and Friday off, and Monday is a holiday. So Judge Merchan set closing to begin Tuesday morning (and there will be no more scheduled breaks, as the jury will begin deliberating sometime on Wednesday most likely).
     
    SaintForLife said:
    Lol. Bragg ignored the felony from Cohen to go after Trump on misdemeanors that he's converted to felonies.


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    Lol, Eli Honig has clearly been tasked with arguing Trump's side in CNN's coverage, so not surprising at all that he would say that. He's said a number of silly things to argue Trump's side during their coverage. What else has he got?

    That's like telling the police officer, I know you pulled me over for going 70 in a 60, but that other guy was going 75.
     
    coldseat said:
    Lol, Eli Honig has clearly been tasked with arguing Trump's side in CNN's coverage, so not surprising at all that he would say that. He's said a number of silly things to argue Trump's side during their coverage. What else has he got?
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    Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. I know you aren't used to journalists straying outside of the corporate media narrative.

    coldseat said:
    That's like telling the police officer, I know you pulled me over for going 70 in a 60, but that other guy was going 75.
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    Bragg ignored a felony by Cohen just so he could put him on the stand for originally misdemeanor charges.

    But Bragg doesn't mind letting illegals out of jail that assault police.
     
    SaintForLife said:
    Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. I know you aren't used to journalists straying outside of the corporate media narrative.


    Bragg ignored a felony by Cohen just so he could put him on the stand for originally misdemeanor charges.

    But Bragg doesn't mind letting illegals out of jail that assault police.
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    Haha, such a weak response. Clearly CNN never, ever, ever "both sides" it coverage of politics. 🤪🤪🤪

    They love you quoting their "corporate" media coverage.

    Your media literacy is so poor.
     
    superchuck500 said:
    The law converts them to felonies.

    You’re also assuming Bragg knew about it before the immunity agreement .
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    The law converts them to felonies without every having to say what other crime made it convert to felonies. That doesn't sound constitutional. They never mentioned what the other charge was at the trial right?

    I'm guessing it will get overturned on appeal if he's found guilty, but the Democrats don't care about that. It's all about saying Biden's opponent is a convicted felon.

    What do you think about this from a former federal prosecutor?



    If you think this case, with all its jerry-rigging to concoct a charge thru willful misapplications of statutes and reliance on an admitted perjurer and thief like Cohen -- including giving him a pass on felonies for his testimony -- is a proper exercise of the the criminal justice process ...

    Simply because it is Trump ...

    Then your ethics are lower than sewage.

    CNN Legal Analyst Elie Honig -- faithful Democrat partisan -- has it exactly correct:

    This case would never have been brought against anyone not named Donald Trump.

    It is right out of the Stalinist playbook.

    If you can't bring yourself to condemn what Bragg has done, you're a disgrace to the profession.
     
    More on what Honig said:



    "They gave him a free pass. He committed larceny, it's a higher degree of a felony than what Donald Trump is charged with. Yet they gave Michael Cohen a free pass even though he's now admitted that he stole what amounts to $60,000. It goes to his credibility, it goes to his relationship with the D.A."

     
    SaintForLife said:
    The law converts them to felonies without every having to say what other crime made it convert to felonies. That doesn't sound constitutional. They never mentioned what the other charge was at the trial right?

    I'm guessing it will get overturned on appeal if he's found guilty, but the Democrats don't care about that. It's all about saying Biden's opponent is a convicted felon.

    What do you think about this from a former federal prosecutor?



    If you think this case, with all its jerry-rigging to concoct a charge thru willful misapplications of statutes and reliance on an admitted perjurer and thief like Cohen -- including giving him a pass on felonies for his testimony -- is a proper exercise of the the criminal justice process ...

    Simply because it is Trump ...

    Then your ethics are lower than sewage.

    CNN Legal Analyst Elie Honig -- faithful Democrat partisan -- has it exactly correct:

    This case would never have been brought against anyone not named Donald Trump.

    It is right out of the Stalinist playbook.

    If you can't bring yourself to condemn what Bragg has done, you're a disgrace to the profession.
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    We have already gone over this - in order to be a felony records charge, the prosecution has to show that the falsification was in furtherance of another crime. The prosecution has actually submitted substantial testimony about the purpose being related to the campaign and the election - as surely someone with such a command of the charges and evidence would know - did you forget about that already? And, as discussed before, when the jury is presented with the summation, the prosecution will explain how the illegal records conduct was done for the purpose of the illegal campaign activity . . . as was the testimony. And then, the judge will instruct the jury about the elements of the felony charges which will require that the jury find that the falsification of business records was done for purposes related to a crime. If they do so find, it's a felony.

    And the idea that the prosecution never uses tainted witnesses is stupid and laughable. See, e.g. every organized crime prosecution in history.
     
    SaintForLife said:
    More on what Honig said:



    "They gave him a free pass. He committed larceny, it's a higher degree of a felony than what Donald Trump is charged with. Yet they gave Michael Cohen a free pass even though he's now admitted that he stole what amounts to $60,000. It goes to his credibility, it goes to his relationship with the D.A."

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    Boohoo.

    So you must be convinced that the prosecution has met their burden of proof and that Trump is going to be convicted.

    I honestly don't know what the jury is going to decide.
     

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