The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (2 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    Weak arse statement

    He lost me at "If there is any chance whatsoever that Joe Biden will be the next President", there is not a chance, he is the President-Elect. The only reason that would change is if there was a successful coup by trump and the only way that can happen is if these cowards like Sen. Alexander continue to let this farce continue.
     
    He lost me at "If there is any chance whatsoever that Joe Biden will be the next President", there is not a chance, he is the President-Elect. The only reason that would change is if there was a successful coup by trump and the only way that can happen is if these cowards like Sen. Alexander continue to let this farce continue.
    Pretty much how I feel as well. you put it better than I was being able to in response to sbtb.
     
    He’s retiring from Congress, but may have other political ambitions or want to be a lobbyist.
    And I get your point that there wasn't anything really wrong with the statement... But weaker than the moment calls for and certainly would be better if more of these statements resembled Romney's.
     
    It's funny how the trump team keeps saying over and over and over again that Democrats are trying to steal the election, all while they are actually trying to steal the election. Irony is always lost on them.
    That's on page 2 of the Conservative Playbook, I think: accuse others repeatedly of what you yourself are actually doing.
     
    And I get your point that there wasn't anything really wrong with the statement... But weaker than the moment calls for and certainly would be better if more of these statements resembled Romney's.

    I don’t disagree. I prefer stronger statements right now while the most fundamental aspect of our democracy is facing an unprecedented assault. Some of the statements have been terrible though, and that one was just milk toast. Not good, but not bad.
     
    Yes, but the margin narrowed by 1700 votes and you know that’s what Trumpettes will focus on.
    I'm pretty sure that those were all Republican heavy counties. I know for a fact Floyd is; I live within 20 minutes of Floyd county.

    Thinking that democrats can do something nefarious to affect an election in Floyd county to the tune of losing 2700 ballots to not be counted (which netted Trump 877 or so votes) is like thinking that a fish can do something nefarious to affect the way leaves grow on a tree.
     
    Ill ask again since now State Republican lawmakers are heading to WH- could this be coercion?
     
    I'm pretty sure that those were all Republican heavy counties. I know for a fact Floyd is; I live within 20 minutes of Floyd county.

    Thinking that democrats can do something nefarious to affect an election in Floyd county to the tune of losing 2700 ballots to not be counted (which netted Trump 877 or so votes) is like thinking that a fish can do something nefarious to affect the way leaves grow on a tree.

    There you go with your facts and details again. You're 100% right, but not one single solitary Trump supporter will ever know what you just laid out. They will only see 1700 votes for Trump and think 10 more recounts and he wins.
     

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