The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (2 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    Reuter’s poll from yesterday about who believes Trump’s lies.

    I do want to point out that while 52% of Republicans believe the election was rigged, overall 73% of the nation believes it wasn’t - and only 5% believes it was when you factor the rest of the nation in.

    I believe that number was like 80% of R’s thought Obama was illegitimate and 20% overall thought so too so the spilt isn’t unprecedented. Just the fact that the “president” is acting like a two year old.

     
    Yes, but the margin narrowed by 1700 votes and you know that’s what Trumpettes will focus on.
    I know, not that it'll matter to them.. but I think that happened because of screw ups by Republican (I think) officials in counties that leaned Trump.

    Again, not that that'll matter.
     
    I know, not that it'll matter to them.. but I think that happened because of screw ups by Republican (I think) officials in counties that leaned Trump.

    Again, not that that'll matter.

    Yeah, screw ups and human error is a small part of every election ever. When the country casts over 150 million votes, there's bound to be mistakes here and there. It just bugs me that we have Trump questioning things that are in nearly every single case good faith errors and nothing nefarious about them. It just needlessly undermines the faith people have in our elections.
     
    Yes indeed. Basically saying we've seen this movie before and nothing has changed. But hey, if the two Georgia Democrats win, that meh will become a wow. :hihi:
    It seems weird to me that someone would make the effort to let people know they are apathetic about something. It's like, "like I don't care about this issue, but I care about making sure you know that I don't care about this issue."
     
    It seems weird to me that someone would make the effort to let people know they are apathetic about something. It's like, "like I don't care about this issue, but I care about making sure you know that I don't care about this issue."

    Lol, it was just a passing comment. You can skip over it if it makes you feel better. I didn't even think about how you might take it, so. :shrug:
     

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