Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[superchuck500]

Maybe, but that won’t stop them from trying.

That's not what Dobbs held. Dobbs held that there is no constitutional basis for a federally-protected right to an abortion. The result is that it is left to the states (based on how federalism works) but the holding isn't specifically that "abortion is for the states to decide" ergo there's no basis for it in federal law.

These are similar concepts but not mutually exclusive - just because there's no basis for an abortion right embedded there in the Constitution doesn't necessarily mean that Congress has no power to enact abortion law. Congress could still attempt to pass a nationwide abortion law that could stand if found to be a lawful exercise of Congress' limited power. I tend to agree that it's difficult for Congress to articulate such a basis in a persuasive way - the options would include the Commerce power (regulating interstate commerce), the Spending power (attaching abortion-related rules to federal funds), or the 14th Amendment's 'life, liberty, without due process" clause but each of these has significant concerns. There's a great summary from the CRS (below).

I don't think it's a proper exercise of federal legislative power . . . but you know how these things go, it's not entirely predictable.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10787

 

[MT15]

This is how the red states will cover up the deaths caused by their extreme laws on maternal health care. They have fired every member of the physician panel that found 2 avoidable deaths in the immediate aftermath of GA’s extreme law. That’s so we don’t ever find out how many deaths there are.

 

[fooferdoggie]

This is how the red states will cover up the deaths caused by their extreme laws on maternal health care. They have fired every member of the physician panel that found 2 avoidable deaths in the immediate aftermath of GA’s extreme law. That’s so we don’t ever find out how many deaths there are.

it's just going to get worse. Remember these are Christians covering up deaths caused by them. this is what American Christianity has become.

 

[superchuck500]

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social)

The state of Georgia has fired every member of a health care committee tasked with investigating maternal deaths after their report of 2 women who likely died due to abortion ban was leaked to the public...

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[SFIDC3]

This is how the red states will cover up the deaths caused by their extreme laws on maternal health care. They have fired every member of the physician panel that found 2 avoidable deaths in the immediate aftermath of GA’s extreme law. That’s so we don’t ever find out how many deaths there are.

This is criminal.....

 

[Optimus Prime]

This is criminal.....

Should be

 

[Optimus Prime]

A good point

The tragic medical emergencies and deaths get all the press and attention but I'd suspect that exponentially more women have simply decided that an abortion is best for them and families
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A Kentucky woman known by the pseudonym Mary Poe recently filed a lawsuit against her state, seeking an abortion for what was once a banal reason: because she wanted one.

Poe, who was about seven weeks pregnant at the time of the lawsuit’s filing, has since had an abortion out of state. But her attorneys argue that she still has standing to sue to overturn Kentucky’s two abortion bans – a six-week ban and a separate total ban – arguing that the laws violate the state constitution.

This much, at least, is typical: lawsuits challenging abortion bans have sprung up across the country since Dobbs, with women and their families seeking to overturn bans, expand exceptions, or get some compensation from the state for the graphic, distressing, disabling or deadly outcomes that the bans have made them suffer…….

Women who had suffered horrific medical complications became lucid, moving and highly sought after tellers of their own stories, explaining how abortion bans has risked their health:

Amanda Zurawski, for example, was denied an emergency abortion at 18 weeks, subsequently went into septic shock twice, and one of her fallopian tubes was so scarred that it is now permanently closed, inhibiting her future fertility.

Kate Cox was denied an abortion after discovering that her fetus has trisomy 18, a rare genetic condition which is incompatible with life, and which, because of Cox’s own medical history, also endangered her fertility and life.

During her presidential run, Kamala Harris ran an ad featuring a woman identified only as Ondrea, who suffered a miscarriage at 16 weeks and was denied the standard care due to her state’s abortion ban. She developed sepsis and almost died.

The ad features a shot of Ondrea in a bathroom, staring at her body in a mirror wearing only a sports bra. Her belly bears the scars of the emergency surgery that eventually saved her life – the surgery that she never would have had to have if it weren’t for the ban……

Not so with Mary Poe. Poe may well be married, middle-class and white; from her statement, in which she talks about the difficulty of finding childcare, we can infer that she, like most abortion patients, is already a mother.

But Poe is not suffering a physical emergency; she is not enduring any pain or medical misfortune that she can use to purchase social license.

She is not, in other words, a woman whose claim to an abortion is based on a plea for mercy. She is merely a woman who seeks to be in control of her own life, one who believes that things like privacy and self-determination apply to her, too.

“I have decided that ending my pregnancy is the best decision for me and my family,” Poe writes in her public statement. “This is a personal decision, a decision I believe should be mine alone, not made by anyone else.”……

We must defend elective abortions, not just the most politically palatable cases | Moira Donegan

After Dobbs, pro-choice advocates have emphasized women in medical crises. But those tragic cases are a limited picture

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

Just in case anyone was wondering if women are still dying because of Trump and the GOP:

A Third Woman Died Under Texas’ Abortion Ban. Doctors Are Avoiding D&Cs and Reaching for Riskier Miscarriage Treatments. — ProPublica

Thirty-five-year-old Porsha Ngumezi’s case raises questions about how abortion bans are pressuring doctors to avoid standard care even in straightforward miscarriages.

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[MT15]

No surprise here. At this point I won’t even go to TX for any reason. And I would especially discourage anyone who is pregnant or trying to get pregnant from stepping foot in TX.