Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[Texan1211]

So, you have no principles? Noted.

Buzz off.

 

[DaveXA]

Buzz off.

So, respond to a legitimate question with a childish response? How adult of you.

 

[Texan1211]

So, respond to a legitimate question with a childish response? How adult of you.

Shoo, fly.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, has sued a New York doctor over accusations that she mailed abortion pills to a Texas woman in defiance of the state’s ban on the procedure.

The lawsuit will test the power of “shield laws”, a post-Roe v Wade strategy designed to protect abortion providers and enable access to pills for women in states that have banned abortion.

Filed in Collin county, Texas, and announced on Friday, the lawsuit alleges that Dr Megan Carpenter sent abortion pills to a 20-year-old Texas woman through telemedicine.

After the woman sought medical attention for severe bleeding in July, the “biological father of the unborn child” suspected that she had sought to end her pregnancy without informing him and found the abortion pills, according to the lawsuit.

Because Carpenter is based in New York, Paxton’s lawsuit will come up against New York’s shield law, which dictates that officials in the state not cooperate with attempts by other states to sue or prosecute providers who send abortion pills to people in states that ban abortion. Seven other states have passed similar shield laws since the US supreme court overturned Roe.


These laws have proven critical to maintaining post-Roe access to abortion. On average, in every month between April and June of 2024, shield laws helped providers send pills to more than 9,700 people who live in states with near-total abortion bans, six-week bans or restrictions on telemedicine abortion, according to #WeCount, a research project by the Society of Family Planning.

This lawsuit will mark the first time shield laws are tested in court, pitting the laws of two states against one another.

“This was inevitable,” said Mary Ziegler, a University of California, Davis, school of law professor who studies the legal history of reproduction. “This is going to be a state-to-state conflict.”

Ziegler added: “The goal, I think in part, is to intimidate physicians by saying: ‘We’re coming for you personally.’”………

Texas sues New York doctor accused of mailing abortion pills across state lines

Lawsuit filed by state attorney general Ken Paxton against Dr Megan Carpenter will be first to test power of shield laws

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

So, respond to a legitimate question with a childish response? How adult of you.

A 1950s response at that

That’s what happens when you learn all your insults from Leave it to Beaver reruns

 

[Optimus Prime]

The legal battle over the interstate mailing of abortion pills has begun. On Friday, the Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, sued Dr Margaret Carpenter, a New York-based OB-GYN and reproductive justice activist, over what he alleges was Carpenter’s choice to mail abortion pills from New York to a 20-year-old pregnant woman in Texas.

The lawsuit, filed in a Texas state court but almost certainly the beginning of a federal legal battle, marks the first formal legal challenge by an anti-abortion attorney general against a Democratic-controlled state’s shield laws, which protect abortion providers from out-of-state liability, and is slated to test how far pro-choice states can go to protect providers within their state borders – and how much force anti-choice states can give to their abortion bans beyond theirs.

The alleged facts go something like this: sometime last summer, a young Texas woman from the Dallas suburbs discovered that she was pregnant, and contacted one of Carpenter’s advocacy organizations seeking access to abortion medication.

Carpenter is part of the Abortion Coalition for Telemedicine, or Act, a national network of doctors located in pro-choice states that dispense abortion medication through the mail; she has also worked with the abortion access advocacy groups Hey Jane and AidAccess.

Through the group, Carpenter prescribed the woman the pills, which she took as directed. The woman’s abortion was discovered by authorities after the patient, concerned about heavy bleeding, asked her boyfriend to take her to the hospital.

The Texas attorney general’s complaint makes repeated, disconcerting reference to the fact that the boyfriend had evidently not been told about the pregnancy and abortion before this, suggesting that he was entitled to the information or had somehow been wronged.

Doctors like Carpenter have become a central part of the public health and civil rights response to Dobbs. They have stepped in to provide American women with the safety and dignity that their states seek to deny them.

An estimated 8,000 women in ban states access pills by mail every single month, getting prescriptions from doctors like Carpenter in safe states and from providers located abroad.…..

The legal battle over abortion-by-mail in the US has begun – and the stakes are high | Moira Donegan

This fight will test whether pro-choice states can protect providers who mail abortion pills to anti-choice states

www.theguardian.com

 

[brandon]

The legal battle over the interstate mailing of abortion pills has begun. On Friday, the Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, sued Dr Margaret Carpenter, a New York-based OB-GYN and reproductive justice activist, over what he alleges was Carpenter’s choice to mail abortion pills from New York to a 20-year-old pregnant woman in Texas.

The lawsuit, filed in a Texas state court but almost certainly the beginning of a federal legal battle, marks the first formal legal challenge by an anti-abortion attorney general against a Democratic-controlled state’s shield laws, which protect abortion providers from out-of-state liability, and is slated to test how far pro-choice states can go to protect providers within their state borders – and how much force anti-choice states can give to their abortion bans beyond theirs.

The alleged facts go something like this: sometime last summer, a young Texas woman from the Dallas suburbs discovered that she was pregnant, and contacted one of Carpenter’s advocacy organizations seeking access to abortion medication.

Carpenter is part of the Abortion Coalition for Telemedicine, or Act, a national network of doctors located in pro-choice states that dispense abortion medication through the mail; she has also worked with the abortion access advocacy groups Hey Jane and AidAccess.

Through the group, Carpenter prescribed the woman the pills, which she took as directed. The woman’s abortion was discovered by authorities after the patient, concerned about heavy bleeding, asked her boyfriend to take her to the hospital.

The Texas attorney general’s complaint makes repeated, disconcerting reference to the fact that the boyfriend had evidently not been told about the pregnancy and abortion before this, suggesting that he was entitled to the information or had somehow been wronged.

Doctors like Carpenter have become a central part of the public health and civil rights response to Dobbs. They have stepped in to provide American women with the safety and dignity that their states seek to deny them.

An estimated 8,000 women in ban states access pills by mail every single month, getting prescriptions from doctors like Carpenter in safe states and from providers located abroad.…..

The legal battle over abortion-by-mail in the US has begun – and the stakes are high | Moira Donegan

This fight will test whether pro-choice states can protect providers who mail abortion pills to anti-choice states

www.theguardian.com

National abortion ban incoming.

 

[MT15]

This is what doctors and health experts said would happen.

Daniel S. Goldberg (@profgoldberg.bsky.social)

Me, a public health person, just sitting over here reflecting on the fact that the US has experienced a 7% increase in infant mortality post-Dobbs. Like, do you realize what that says about this society from an ethical perspective? That we made policy choices that caused this? #PHEthx...

bsky.app

 

[Optimus Prime]

Early this fall, a woman desperate for an abortion messaged the Wild West Access Fund, an abortion fund in Nevada, asking for support.

She guessed she was nearly 20 weeks pregnant and didn’t have even a few hundred dollars to spend on the procedure. She wanted to prove she was doing everything she could to raise the money, and said she was trying to pawn her vehicle.

Over the next few weeks she bounced from clinic to clinic, trying to put the money together as the price of the abortion she sought continued to increase.

The cost of a first trimester abortion is about $500, around $2,000 in the second, and a third trimester abortion can range from a few thousand dollars to around $25,000.

Since the US supreme court eliminated federal protections for abortion, more than a dozen states banned the procedure completely, while others set gestational limits, increasing travel costs for pregnant people in those states.

The woman eventually stopped replying to messages, and the fund workers don’t know if she ever received her abortion. Macy Haverda, executive director of the Wild West Access Fund, told me that even for a $600 procedure, “we have had a lot of clients that talk about having to sell off their belongings.”

Abortion debt is increasingly part of the abortion landscape, whether in the form of pawning possessions, putting procedures on credit cards or taking out loans. I spoke with three different clinics, two abortion funds and several organizers – all of them have identified more debt burden falling on patients since Roe v Wade was overturned in 2022.

To call attention to the problem, the Debt Collective, a union of debtors that has challenged the validity of student and medical debt, announced on Monday a grant of $50,000 to a group of abortion funds – organizations that help people pay for abortions and costs surrounding them, such as travel and lodging.

“The Debt Collective believes that abortion access is a health justice issue,” said collective co-founder Astra Taylor in a statement. “High costs, including the costs of treatment and travel, are effectively a second ban on care.”……….

Loans and pawned belongings: abortion patients are increasingly going into debt

Abortion debt is swelling. Providers and groups trying to fill the void created by bans are buckling under the weight

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

The next front in the US abortion wars may be what people are allowed to say about it.

More than two years after the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade in the case Dobbs v Jackson Women’s Health Organization, US abortions are on the rise, thanks in large part to the spread of abortion pills and travel across state lines.

This has infuriated anti-abortion advocates, who have proposed policies to help the incoming Trump administration curtail the mailing of abortion pills and targeted individuals and groupsthat help women get out-of-state abortions.

In a sign of how the issue is pitting states against one another, Texas earlier this month sued a New York-based doctor who allegedly provided a telehealth abortion to a Texan woman.

In an effort to cut off the avenues remaining to people in states with bans, the anti-abortion movement is looking at ways to controlinformation about how and where to obtain abortions. State lawmakers have filed at least two bills for the 2025 legislative session that target abortion-related speech.

“What now matters in a country where a third of the country bans abortion and other states do not is the flow of people, the flow of pills and the flow of information,” said Rachel Rebouché, an expert in reproductive health law and the dean of Temple University’s law school.

“Controlling what people can find out about services that are not legal in their state but are legal somewhere else is part of this larger conversation post-Dobbs.”

One of the 2025 bills, pre-filed in Texas, would make it illegal to “provide information on how to obtain an abortion-inducing drug” and to maintain a website that “assists or facilitates a person’s effort in obtaining an abortion-inducing drug”.

It would also force internet service providers to block people from accessing websites run by Aid Access, Plan C and other groups that help people obtain medication abortions, even when they’re doing so through the healthcare system.…….

Why speech could be a target for the anti-abortion movement in 2025

The anti-abortion movement is looking at ways to control information about how and where to obtain abortions

www.theguardian.com

 

[Eeyore]

Time for you pro-lifers to step up!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/12/28/abandoned-baby-texas-abortion-ban/

 

[Booker]

Time for you pro-lifers to step up!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/12/28/abandoned-baby-texas-abortion-ban/

Shocking, who could have thought that unwanted pregnancies lead to unwanted children?

 

[Optimus Prime]

In the months after the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade, permanent contraception in the form of tubal sterilizations and vasectomies surged among young adults living in states likely to ban abortion, new research released on Monday found.

Compared to May 2022, when the opinion overturning Roe leaked, August 2022 saw 95% more vasectomies and 70% more tubal sterilizations performed on people between the ages of 19 and 26, according to the study, which was conducted by researchers at the George Washington University, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and the University of Michigan.

In addition to analyzing data about medical visits for permanent contraception before and after the opinion’s leak, the researchers also examined survey responses from more than 600 people between the ages of 14 and 24 who were asked about the fall of Roe.


“It has made me want to be sterilized more,” said one 24-year-old female survey respondent fromthe US south. “The pill isn’t 100% effective and I’m afraid of losing access to it, and I do not want children in the future and would much rather be sterilized. I’m afraid of getting pregnant and not being able to make decisions for myself.”…….

Permanent contraception surged after Roe v Wade overturned, study finds

Young adults living in states likely to ban abortion obtained tubal sterilizations and vasectomies in months after ruling

www.theguardian.com

 

[fooferdoggie]

How soon do we see red state banning sterilization?

 

[MT15]

How soon do we see red state banning sterilization?

Pretty soon, I would imagine.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Democratic states across the country are embarking on a pioneering effort to increase access to abortion by teaching people who are not doctors to offer and perform the procedure.

In Washington state, a first-of-its-kind pilot program called the Pharmacist Abortion Access Project announced this week that it trained 10 pharmacists to prescribe abortion pills; so far, theyhave prescribed abortions to 43 people.

With Roe v Wade gone and abortion now all but eliminated in a dozen or so states, the project is the latest attempt to expand access to the procedure in the parts of the country that still allow it.

Connecticut and Delaware have in recent years passed legislation to permit physician assistants, midwives and some nurses to perform abortions, while Oregon, Maryland and Illinois are now devoting millions of state dollars to programs that train similar professions in the procedure.

“Even in Washington state, where abortion is legal, people are facing barriers to accessing abortion care – especially people who are struggling to make ends meet, who live in rural areas or don’t have easy access to reproductive health care,” said Beth Rivin, the Pharmacist Abortion Access Project’s managing director and president of Uplift International, which partnered with the online pharmacy Honeybee Health to dispense the abortion pills. “This expands abortion access by bringing a new profession into abortion provision.”

Of the states that still allow abortions, 14 say that only physicians may perform the procedure, according to a tally by the Guttmacher Institute, which tracks abortion restrictions.

But in the years since the US supreme court overturned Roe in the 2022 decision Dobbs v Jackson Women’s Health Organization, physicians – already in short supply in the US – have struggled to get training in how to provide abortions……..

Democratic states train non-doctors on providing abortions to expand US access

From Washington to Connecticut, pharmacists and healthcare workers pioneer efforts to limit abortion barriers

www.theguardian.com

 

[horse2H5]

Democratic states across the country are embarking on a pioneering effort to increase access to abortion by teaching people who are not doctors to offer and perform the procedure.

In Washington state, a first-of-its-kind pilot program called the Pharmacist Abortion Access Project announced this week that it trained 10 pharmacists to prescribe abortion pills; so far, theyhave prescribed abortions to 43 people.

With Roe v Wade gone and abortion now all but eliminated in a dozen or so states, the project is the latest attempt to expand access to the procedure in the parts of the country that still allow it.

Connecticut and Delaware have in recent years passed legislation to permit physician assistants, midwives and some nurses to perform abortions, while Oregon, Maryland and Illinois are now devoting millions of state dollars to programs that train similar professions in the procedure.

“Even in Washington state, where abortion is legal, people are facing barriers to accessing abortion care – especially people who are struggling to make ends meet, who live in rural areas or don’t have easy access to reproductive health care,” said Beth Rivin, the Pharmacist Abortion Access Project’s managing director and president of Uplift International, which partnered with the online pharmacy Honeybee Health to dispense the abortion pills. “This expands abortion access by bringing a new profession into abortion provision.”

Of the states that still allow abortions, 14 say that only physicians may perform the procedure, according to a tally by the Guttmacher Institute, which tracks abortion restrictions.

But in the years since the US supreme court overturned Roe in the 2022 decision Dobbs v Jackson Women’s Health Organization, physicians – already in short supply in the US – have struggled to get training in how to provide abortions……..

Democratic states train non-doctors on providing abortions to expand US access

From Washington to Connecticut, pharmacists and healthcare workers pioneer efforts to limit abortion barriers

www.theguardian.com

amazing the efforts government goes through to kill a lump of cells.

 

[MT15]

This made my blood boil. I hope she takes them for a whole lot of money, all of them.

https://www.jezebel.com/brittany-watts-ohio-lawsuit