Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (7 Viewers)

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Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

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Republicans overrode the veto
Bill requiring child support payments for unborn children, more becomes law

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Republicans overrode the veto
Bill requiring child support payments for unborn children, more becomes law

Kansas voters should hold them accountable.

 

[MT15]

Birth control is up next.

 

[Optimus Prime]

For the second year in a row, abortion providers performed more than 1m abortions in the United States in 2024. About 155,000 people crossed state lines for abortions – roughly double the number of patients who did so in 2020, before the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade and paved the way for more than a dozen state-level abortion bans to take effect.

These numbers, released earlier this week by the abortion rights-supporting Guttmacher Institute, have not changed much since 2023, when the US also performed more than 1m abortions and 169,000 people traveled for the procedure.

This lack of change masks a deep geographical divide in the US, as a handful of states have now become major hubs for people seeking abortions.


In 2024, Illinois provided roughly 35,000 abortions to out-of-state patients, while North Carolina provided 16,700. Kansas and New Mexico, which neighbor anti-abortion Texas, provided 16,100 and 12,800 abortions – the vast majority of which were to out-of-state patients.……

New figures shed light on US abortion travel as Trump cuts tracking research

Guttmacher report finds 155,000 people crossed state lines for procedure – double number who did so before Roe’s fall

www.theguardian.com

 

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So far this year, lawmakers in at least 12states have introduced legislation that would treat fetuses as people and leave women who have abortions vulnerable to being charged with homicide – a charge that, in several of these states, carries the death penalty.

Once seen as politically toxic, this kind of legislation has become more popular in the years since Roe v Wade fell, erasing the national right to abortion.

This likely comes as no surprise to Mary Ziegler, a professor at the University of California, Davis School of Law and one of the foremost commentators on the US abortion wars.

The anti-abortion movement, she writes in her new book Personhood: The New Civil War Over Reproduction, has really “always been a fetal-personhood movement” – one that is so emboldened, it is increasingly unconcerned with public opinion or even democratic norms.

Fetal personhood is the belief that embryos and fetuses deserve the legal rights and protections afforded to people.

If taken to its logical conclusion in US law, this belief would not only totally outlaw abortion, but also risk pitting the rights of fetuses against the rights of the women carrying them in all kinds of circumstances.

In the first year after the US supreme court overturned Roe, at least 200 people were prosecuted for conduct relating to their pregnancies. Most of these cases involved charges of child endangerment, abuse or neglect – language that treats fetuses as children.……


Yet the voices advocating for better daycare and housing for mothers faded away as the anti-abortion movement tightened its alliance with the Republican party.

Anti-abortion activists understood that, by portraying fetuses as defenseless victims of the ultimate crime, they could energize conservative voters – and open their pockets.

“The Republican party, from the Reagan era onward, has really equated a kind of justice and equality with punishing wrongdoers,” Ziegler said.

“It’s a natural fit for the anti-abortion movement: the more its fortunes relied on Republican politicians, the more it framed things the same way.”

State-level bans on abortion still do not technically punish abortion patients. (Instead, it’s abortion providers, long positioned by the movement as coercing or confusing women into the procedure, and sometimes the people who help them, who are at risk of criminal consequences.)

But, over the last few years, self-described “abortion abolitionists” have slowly migrated out of the fringes of the anti-abortion movement and moved towards its center.

Unlike mainstream “pro-lifers”, “abolitionists” believe that, if a fetus is a person and abortion is the murder of that person, women should be punished accordingly: as murderers………

How the anti-abortion movement embraced fringe ‘abolitionists’ and became more punitive

A movement that believes abortion should be treated as homicide has grown alongside a Republican penchant for punishment

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

This guy represents a sizable element of modern men. He totally thinks that once a woman marries, her husband should dictate how she votes. If you think women are avoiding marriage now - if this guy’s views become mainstream, only women with domination fantasies will ever get married.

Also, he tap dances around so hard trying to not say he thinks women are inferior it’s kind of funny.

 

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This guy represents a sizable element of modern men. He totally thinks that once a woman marries, her husband should dictate how she votes. If you think women are avoiding marriage now - if this guy’s views become mainstream, only women with domination fantasies will ever get married.

Also, he tap dances around so hard trying to not say he things women are inferior it’s kind of funny.

I would posit that over 50% of men do feel that way right now.

This country is psychotic. And that means dangerous.

 

[Optimus Prime]

This guy represents a sizable element of modern men. He totally thinks that once a woman marries, her husband should dictate how she votes. If you think women are avoiding marriage now - if this guy’s views become mainstream, only women with domination fantasies will ever get married.

Also, he tap dances around so hard trying to not say he things women are inferior it’s kind of funny.

and when Hillary Clinton suggested that some husbands do in fact dictate who their wives vote for she was ripped to shreds, by the right and left

 

[MT15]

and when Hillary Clinton suggested that some husbands do in fact dictate who their wives vote for she was ripped to shreds, by the right and left

A lot of hard right Evangelical churches are preaching that men should control their wives’ votes. Denying that is denying reality.

 

[DaveXA]

and when Hillary Clinton suggested that some husbands do in fact dictate who their wives vote for she was ripped to shreds, by the right and left

Yeah, never was a Hillary fan, but she's definitely not wrong on that point.