Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[MT15]

 

[Farb]

Yes, my ability to think rationally IS on display, thanks! And yes, your comprehension is very suspect. The pope doesn’t believe that religious beliefs should be codified into law. You keep twisting it around.

There are no children murdered by abortions, Farb. Quit lying.

Does the Pope support abortion? That is the question I am asking you. And to be honest, not a fan of this pope at all.

Technically you are correct. No children are are killed, only babies.

 

[Farb]

Or here‘s a thought, let’s take it a bit further and let every individual decide for themselves. That would be the ultimate in small government wouldn’t it?

That would not really be a government then would it?

 

[Farb]

Everything about you and the things you post scream that you have a disdain for women. Hell, just your stance on abortion demonstrates your inability to see women as your equal. It's not a coincidence that you mention hating minorities as I'm sure that there's some ill-will from you toward minorities. Whereas, there is nothing in my posting history that paints me as hating minorities, seeing as how I am a minority. Maybe you can't see women as your equal because you feel inferior to them and that makes you angry.

As to being Catholic, I was baptized at All Saints, had my first communion and confirmation at St. Joseph the Worker and am a proud graduate of St. Augustine High School. I'm as Catholic as they come. I'm just not a blind follower. I use the grace that we were all born with called free will. I work toward following ALL the tenets of my religion, not just the convenient ones. But you do you.

As to be expected, you are 100% wrong on everything you said in the first paragraph but I won't argue. If you want to think me a racist and bigot, cool, carry on.

So, for being as catholic as they come, what are your thoughts on receiving communion? Can anyone receive it without reconciliation?

 

[Farb]

This is a lie. There are millions of people alive today because of those vaccines. Quit lying.

Why? Because they lessened the severity? How is that even provable? I had no vaccine and both times my symptoms were not severe at all. Matter of fact, the second time I didn't even feel bad.
Do you think people that received the vaccine and booster died of covid? That would be impossible right, after all, they were effective.
Is it because they told you this that you believe it?

 

[Farb]

You don’t get to take away a person‘s god-given free will because you don’t like how they live their life. IIRC, God has spoken about this numerous times, to not judge other people. It’s not our place.

It’s a completely reasonable position to take that the woman’s life should be paramount and her decisions should be her own until the embryo/fetus is able to survive without taking away from her body. Until that point we don’t really have a life that is capable of living.

Your position is based on emotional appeals that you have evidently swallowed hook, line, and sinker. The darker side is that these appeals are made in order to control women, to deny them the ability to make their own decisions. It’s an evil argument.

So we as a society should not incarcerate anyone for any crime since their free will was given by god?

Also, when the left tries to use the religious aspect to debate abortion, it just makes you look silly.

It is evil to kill a baby because of your own actions and free will.

 

[Farb]

Thanks again to rapey mcforehead for sparking this young woman's efforts...

Awesome. The abortion travel industry will be a booming industry! Good times.

 

[Farb]

So, you think responsibility is tied to freedom? i.e. we should only be free to act, so long as it's responsibly?

If you act irresponsible enough, you will lose your freedom, so yes. If you are a free person you owe it to yourself and society to be responsible. That is why jails exist.

 

[Farb]

I assume you don’t believe in the Vaccine? What about the election, you believe it was “stolen”?

Stolen? NO. Rigged, yes.
Do I think there was massive effort by the media (Hunter laptop) to influence the election. Do I think Dems actually bought seats, yes, the Georgia race for example. Idiot people voted for the candidate that would give them the biggest stimmy check.

I also predict that the Dems will try another stimulus for the voters before Nov.

 

[J-DONK]

Stolen? NO. Rigged, yes.
Do I think there was massive effort by the media (Hunter laptop) to influence the election. Do I think Dems actually bought seats, yes, the Georgia race for example. Idiot people voted for the candidate that would give them the biggest stimmy check.

I also predict that the Dems will try another stimulus for the voters before Nov.

Can we like sticky this comment to Farb forever? This man believes rigging an election is providing welfare, and aid to your voting base.

Do you find your love, and loyalty more true because you vote against your interest?

This quote is how I imagine Farb feels about Republican party.

Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect

Clearly, you have found a pure, and perfect love with the Republican's, Farb.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

So we as a society should not incarcerate anyone for any crime since their free will was given by god?

Also, when the left tries to use the religious aspect to debate abortion, it just makes you look silly.

It is evil to kill a baby because of your own actions and free will.

Is every act of killing a baby evil?

 

[zztop]

so tired of this shirt

Indiana Senate narrowly passes near-total abortion ban

Indiana state senators have narrowly passed a near-total abortion ban during a rare weekend session, sending the bill to the House after a contentious week of arguments over whether to allow exceptions for rape and incest.

apnews.com

The Republican-controlled Senate voted 26-20 after about three hours of debate, passing the bill with the minimum 26 votes needed to send it on to the House, which Republicans also control.

The bill would prohibit abortions from the time a fertilized egg implants in a uterus. Exceptions would be allowed in cases of rape and incest, but a patient seeking an abortion for either reason would have to sign a notarized affidavit attesting to the attack.

 

[zztop]

I have no confidence this will amount to anything

An Idaho abortion law draws a Justice Department lawsuit

The DOJ argues that a restrictive new ban conflicts with a federal law that requires doctors to give pregnant women appropriate medical care, including abortion when necessary.

www.npr.org

 

[MT15]

So we as a society should not incarcerate anyone for any crime since their free will was given by god?

Also, when the left tries to use the religious aspect to debate abortion, it just makes you look silly.

It is evil to kill a baby because of your own actions and free will.

They are not babies, either. Quit your emotional lying and your strawmen. All babies can breathe and exist outside the womb on their own. All babies are also children. So when you say no children are killed by abortions you are correct and you are also saying that the unborn are not babies. You know they are not. That’s an appeal to emotion that was done by the anti-abortionists in a very cynical way.

Crimes are generally crimes because they affect another person and/or their rights. A real, living breathing person has rights. The unborn are in an in-between state. They are not really actual people with rights equal to actual people until they can breathe and exist outside the womb. This has been so since ancient times, actually.

Contrary to your emotional beliefs, women do not relish abortions. Can you find women who are relieved, yes. But nobody likes them. They are almost all done to salvage the woman‘s life and/or health, whether mental, emotional, or physical.

Nobody will ever be forced to have an abortion. By all means preach against them in your church. Forbid your members from getting them, damn them to hell if they go ahead and get them anyway. Those are well within your rights. What is not within your rights is to make everyone live by your religious beliefs. That’s what radical extremists do. Not what Americans do. We have freedom of and from the establishment of a state religion in this country. Keep in mind that other major religions expressly permit abortions as do large portions of the non-evangelical Christian population.

You are on the wrong side of this issue.

 

[MT15]

Stolen? NO. Rigged, yes.
Do I think there was massive effort by the media (Hunter laptop) to influence the election. Do I think Dems actually bought seats, yes, the Georgia race for example. Idiot people voted for the candidate that would give them the biggest stimmy check.

I also predict that the Dems will try another stimulus for the voters before Nov.

You are way further away from rational than I thought. it’s actually sad. You are way too smart to believe this complete bull shirt.

 

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[Saintamaniac]

As to be expected, you are 100% wrong on everything you said in the first paragraph but I won't argue.

Oh, you can say I'm 100% wrong on everything in the first paragraph but you can't hide from your posting history. Anyone that has been here for any length of time knows that you are not truthful, have a very demeaning view of women and you have a very warped view of what is and isn't racism. I can't say you're a bigot but if you want to think of yourself as one, have at it.

So, for being as catholic as they come, what are your thoughts on receiving communion? Can anyone receive it without reconciliation?

I've already answered your questions on these. I won't go any further than that. One of the things that I was taught in all those years of religious instructions was to always remember that my relationship with my God and my religion is a personal one. And as such, I care not to discuss it much further than I already have...especially with someone as uneducated on the tenets and teachings of our religion as yourself.

 

[MT15]

I’m feeling a lot of love for the people of Kansas tonight.