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    Biden has lost support from many people who voted for him in the past.
    He is getting up there in age.
    Here are a couple of sites I'd like to share...
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    WHAT DO ANY OF YOU THINK?
    IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BEST SERVED BY HAVING PRESIDENT BIDEN RUN FOR ANOTHER TERM OR WOULD A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE BE BETTER? :unsure:
     
    It's been a MAGA right wing wet dream for a long time that the Criminal gets to run against Clinton again. Gets to beat her up again, like last time. They would get to shout "lock her up" at rallys again. Fun, fun, fun.

    Which fits with the theory that SFL and MAGA are scared that Biden will win. Hillary was trending at twitter on and off all day. I saw that same photo there as well as here, today.

    How come I know more about MAGA than you do?
    Nobody is scared Biden will win.

    Also, as I pointed out to you previously, someone isn't considered convicted until after sentencing.

    So your talking point that he's a criminal isn't accurate.
     
    lol Trump University’s law school needs work.

    Trump is convicted.
    Federal prosecutor for 22 years:



    Also, a verdict can be overturned on appeals so the verdict isn't the final order of the case.

    A verdict of guilty in a criminal case generally requires evidence to be tested and true beyond reasonable doubt[3] and is normally followed by a judgment of conviction rendered by judge, which in turn be followed by sentencing.

    In U.S. legal nomenclature, the verdict is the jury's finding on the questions of fact submitted to it. Once the court (the judge) receives the verdict, the judge enters judgment on the verdict. The judgment of the court is the final order in the case. If the defendant is found guilty, they can choose to appeal the case to the local Court of Appeals.

     
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    Federal prosecutor for 22 years:



    Also, a verdict can be overturned on appeals so the verdict isn't the final order of the case.

    A verdict of guilty in a criminal case generally requires evidence to be tested and true beyond reasonable doubt[3] and is normally followed by a judgment of conviction rendered by judge, which in turn be followed by sentencing.

    In U.S. legal nomenclature, the verdict is the jury's finding on the questions of fact submitted to it. Once the court (the judge) receives the verdict, the judge enters judgment on the verdict. The judgment of the court is the final order in the case. If the defendant is found guilty, they can choose to appeal the case to the local Court of Appeals.



    Don’t care about your cope.

    Trump is a convicted felon. People are considered convicted the moment the jury returns a verdict.
     
    That would be odd


    Interesting.

    Whoever the tweeter is, is irrelevant.

    That being said the only idiocy exists on the right. Politicians and candidates exclaimed what a danger Trump was then lined up to kiss his azz and praise him like the Second Coming. Trump insulted them and they said “Thank you, sir. May I have another?”. Trump embarrassed the country on the world stage and they lapped it up. Trump cozied up to Putin, Kim Jung-Un, Erdogan and Orban and they acted like he was a statesman. Trump praised Xi and cost taxpayers 20+ billion dollars which were paid to farmers because they couldn’t sell products to China. That is also not to mention the price increases to people here for any products under the tariffs.

    But keep telling yourself that Democrats are the problem.
     
    Klein thinks it's Harris if Biden drops out which doesn't look to be happening right now. I guess it comes down to how bad they want him out and how much leverage they will try to put on Biden to try to force him out.



    One reason I doubt there’ll be a “mini primary” now is that I don’t think the other major candidates would run. There’s not enough time for them to win support. The process would be too unclear. Party is too exhausted. Harris looks too strong. (People shouldn’t underestimate how closely party elites have been watching her these last few weeks, and how much she’s shifted opinions in her favor.)

    You might get some token opposition from people who want to raise their profiles, do CNN town halls, etc - which could be good for Harris because her win would be both contested and overwhelming — but strongly doubt you’d get Newsom, Whitmer (already said she won’t run), Shapiro, Beshear, etc. Safer for them to position for VP or 2028.

    If Biden had stepped aside weeks ago it might’ve been different. If Jaime Harrison had been thinking through options rather than making himself a Biden-no-matter-what guy, maybe it would have been different. But that’s my read of where the party is now.

    (Caveats: Everything is fluid, Biden might still just refuse to step aside, if Harris falters that could change sentiment, etc)
     
    Klein thinks it's Harris if Biden drops out which doesn't look to be happening right now. I guess it comes down to how bad they want him out and how much leverage they will try to put on Biden to try to force him out.



    One reason I doubt there’ll be a “mini primary” now is that I don’t think the other major candidates would run. There’s not enough time for them to win support. The process would be too unclear. Party is too exhausted. Harris looks too strong. (People shouldn’t underestimate how closely party elites have been watching her these last few weeks, and how much she’s shifted opinions in her favor.)

    You might get some token opposition from people who want to raise their profiles, do CNN town halls, etc - which could be good for Harris because her win would be both contested and overwhelming — but strongly doubt you’d get Newsom, Whitmer (already said she won’t run), Shapiro, Beshear, etc. Safer for them to position for VP or 2028.

    If Biden had stepped aside weeks ago it might’ve been different. If Jaime Harrison had been thinking through options rather than making himself a Biden-no-matter-what guy, maybe it would have been different. But that’s my read of where the party is now.

    (Caveats: Everything is fluid, Biden might still just refuse to step aside, if Harris falters that could change sentiment, etc)

    Imo, it isn’t happening.
     
    An Interesting addition Manchen has decided Biden ought to step down.

    Does he count, or does he not count. He's not a Democrat after all.

    Insofar as my opinion on this matter, I think, perhaps hopfly, that he will bring about a reverse acting effect, and tend to alleviate this bout of the scours the party is currently experiencing.

    He makes for a dandy butt plug,,, a cork.


    On-edit, I found it, the pig and the cork joke:


    This story joke is at the link, I will only quote the ending:

    "Monkey! pull that cork out."

    The monkey looked up at his master and looked at the cork hesitantly. Then with the nod of his master the monkey pulled the cork out and poop flew everywhere! It covered the whole street! The farmer was half a mile away by now and he was up to his knees in pig poop! Everyone in the town raced to the center of the giant pile of poo in the center of the town to help dig out the music man and the monkey; the farmer was the first one on the scene. When he reach the pile he saw the music man was up to his neck in pig poop and laughing. The farmer stared at the music man:

    "What's so funny? You're covered in poop!"

    The music man laughed even harder and said, "Well, you should have seen the monkey try to put the cork back in!"
     
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    The rich white male donors trying to bully Biden into step down will never support him. Never.

    So the members of the Congressional Black and Hispanic caucuses calling on him to step aside are sellouts too? Just want to be sure.

    There's no reason for you to feel insulted. I clearly said I wasn't referring to anyone on this board. This is just more strawman outrage.
    No outrage here. I don't give a flying flute what you think about me. But the fact you and others are going the route of SFL and Farb to those here and elsewhere you disagree with is as strawman as it gets.
     
    Nobody is scared Biden will win.

    Also, as I pointed out to you previously, someone isn't considered convicted until after sentencing.

    So your talking point that he's a criminal isn't accurate.
    It's a talking fact. Even if the verdict is set aside over a tecnality, it will still be a fact that he's a criminal.

    If the verdict is set aside I will acknowledge that additional fact by typing a small c instead of a big C like I have been using to refer to him. "The Criminal" will become 'the criminal.'
     
    So what you are saying is that the side that wants Biden out will never get behind him?
    Did I say that? L.A. pointed out that only 4 of 44 Democratic senators called for Biden. And I questioned whether the calls were going to stop at those four. How is that hard to comprehend?

    I even pointed in another post that those asking Biden to step aside said they would support him if he doesn't. Geez. We see what we want to see.
     

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