SHOULD Biden run for a 2nd term? (4 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Biden has lost support from many people who voted for him in the past.
He is getting up there in age.
Here are a couple of sites I'd like to share...
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Octogenarian Biden begins new year facing age-old question on 2024 race

In the coming months, Biden faces a simple question: will he seek a second term at the end of which he would be 86?

www.theguardian.com

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Biden 2024? Most Democrats say no thank you: AP-NORC poll

A majority of Democrats now think one term is plenty for President Joe Biden, despite his insistence that he plans to seek reelection in 2024. While Biden has trumpeted his legislative victories and ability to govern, the poll suggests relatively few U.S. adults give him high marks on either...

news.yahoo.com

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WHAT DO ANY OF YOU THINK?
IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BEST SERVED BY HAVING PRESIDENT BIDEN RUN FOR ANOTHER TERM OR WOULD A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE BE BETTER?

 

[el caliente]

Depends on who she's running against. I'd vote for her over Trump every day and twice on Sunday.

Against say Liz Cheney, nope.

I wouldn’t vote for her just because her message and actions don’t resonate with me.

If my only options were AOC or Trump I would probably write in “The Apocalypse” and be done with it.

I would vote for Pete, Corey, Pritzker, Whitmer, Shapiro, or Polis over Trump or the field.

 

[DaveXA]

Oh my gosh.
I didn't CLAIM anything.
2 people praised AOC. They brought it up.
I was surprised so I asked them to provide her accomplishments.
They either couldn't or wouldn't.
So now regret I asked them.....because I actually don't care

I mean, you implied she hasn't accomplished anything. That's making a claim.

I don't thinks libs on here should be praising AOC.
They have so many other people who have actually accomplished things.

 

[el caliente]

MT mentioned it earlier, but some just won't vote for a woman b/c she is a woman. Kind of like how some would not vote for Obama b/c he wasn't pink-toned. Which is unfortunate, but there are people like that

Some wouldn’t vote for Romney because he was Mormon. Meanwhile JFK did win being Catholic, so there’s that.

 

[Lapaz]

AOC did a live Instagram last night. She is a smart person, and raises the very concerns I have. Everyone who is sure that Biden must drop out needs to read this thread. She seems to think that there isn’t a real plan in place, and that the big donors who are pushing Biden out are also not going to accept Harris as the nominee. This guy has compiled her thoughts.

The plan isn’t formulated, but it wouldn’t be hard to switch to Kamala. It would take a plan to switch to someone else or to do a primary for VP, but if Biden gives the electors to her and allows her to choose her own VP, that’s straight-forward. I think donors will support her, even though I don’t think she’s the best candidate.

 

[Lapaz]

MT mentioned it earlier, but some just won't vote for a woman b/c she is a woman. Kind of like how some would not vote for Obama b/c he wasn't pink-toned. Which is unfortunate, but there are people like that

I don’t think many Democrats are misogynists. Almost all of those voters are not voting for Biden. He’s not losing that voter constituency. Keep in mind she is on the ticket, so if they wouldn’t vote for a woman, they would’ve been apt not to vote that ticket. Even putting her at the top won’t affect Biden voters.

 

[zztop]

Meanwhile JFK did win being Catholic, so there’s that.

Which was wild at that time. I remember seeing his speeches vowing to adhere to separation of church and state. Some were freaking out about him being president b/c of him being Catholic

 

[zztop]

I don’t think many Democrats are misogynists. Almost all of those voters are not voting for Biden. He’s not losing that voter constituency. Keep in mind she is on the ticket, so if they wouldn’t vote for a woman, they would’ve been apt not to vote that ticket. Even putting her at the top won’t affect Biden voters.

I can't disagree, in my mind I guess I was thinking those put off by Biden due to a reason could easily find other reasons for KH - like having a narrow view vs taking a wider/larger view

 

[DaveXA]

I wouldn’t vote for her just because her message and actions don’t resonate with me.

Fair.

If my only options were AOC or Trump I would probably write in “The Apocalypse” and be done with it.

Lol. I'm voting for dog catcher over Trump, so voting for AOC is the easy choice over Trump.

I would vote for Pete, Corey, Pritzker, Whitmer, Shapiro, or Polis over Trump or the field.

Pete, eh
Corey, definitely
Pritzker...idk
Whitmer, for sure
Shapiro, definitely
Polis...idk

But yeah, I can agree that list is better than both Biden and Trump by a mile.

 

[MT15]

I am bouncing back and forth between 2 platforms. I don't want to take the time to research her.
I am just asking those who claim they like her to be a bit more convincing.

I didn’t say I “like” her - I don’t always agree with her. I said she is smart and has some good points in that talk. If you don’t want to read that thread - it isn’t terribly long - that’s fine.

 

[MT15]

Oh my gosh.
I didn't CLAIM anything.
2 people praised AOC. They brought it up.
I was surprised so I asked them to provide her accomplishments.
They either couldn't or wouldn't.
So now regret I asked them.....because I actually don't care

If you truly didn’t care you would have just not read her comments and moved on. What you did is decide to not read her comments and get a few digs in against her. Not helpful to the discussion here. At all.

And nobody said they wanted to vote for her, el. Your comprehension is not good between this and the LOTR misreading.

 

[MT15]

I don’t think many Democrats are misogynists.

You would be surprised. I say that as a woman with an online presence who mostly interacts with democrats.

 

[zztop]

You would be surprised. I say that as a woman with an online presence who mostly interacts with democrats.

It's really uncomfortable for me to talk about these things, but I know there's some people out there that have certain mindsets. And it's all very vague because I don't know how many, or what percentage there are that might have those types of illogical reasons (vs say evaluating a person based on policy instead of gender or skin color or sexual orientation etc)

 

[Farb]

My opinion or thought is that they will tab Kamala because they don't really like her and they know who ever they tee up has the very real possibility of getting steamrolled and will never recover so their political career will be over. Think Mondale. For this reason, I think they will be hesitate to put any of their future bench up but instead wait until 4 years. This will hopefully help them down ballot by getting new choice out there other Biden, who is a disaster.

I support Joe though, let the peoples choice continue race. It is the only democratic move.

 

[MT15]

It's really uncomfortable for me to talk about these things, but I know there's some people out there that have certain mindsets. And it's all very vague because I don't know how many, or what percentage there are that might have those types of illogical reasons (vs say evaluating a person based on policy instead of gender or skin color or sexual orientation etc)

I say you guys would be surprised, because I have been surprised. It’s so easy to let you biases show online for almost everyone, and I was actually surprised at the number of younger men who didn’t mind showing their misogyny.

 

[MT15]

My opinion or thought is that they will tab Kamala because they don't really like her and they know who ever they tee up has the very real possibility of getting steamrolled and will never recover so their political career will be over. Think Mondale. For this reason, I think they will be hesitate to put any of their future bench up but instead wait until 4 years. This will hopefully help them down ballot by getting new choice out there other Biden, who is a disaster.

I support Joe though, let the peoples choice continue race. It is the only democratic move.

Bless your heart that you think that damaged person will win. After what everyone saw last night.

 

[Booker]

Biden says it again, he's not dropping out:

Biden pushes party unity as he resists calls to step aside, says he'll return to campaign next week

A rapidly growing chorus of Democratic lawmakers is calling for President Joe Biden to drop his reelection bid, even as the president insists he’s ready to return to the campaign trail to counter what he calls a “dark vision” laid out by Republican Donald Trump.

apnews.com

I'm guessing the polling doesn't show Harris doing any better.

 

[MT15]

I'm guessing the polling doesn't show Harris doing any better.

I don’t know how we can trust the polling. It was just disclosed today that Nate Silver works for Peter Theil on a gambling website he has started to take bets on elections.

 

[el caliente]