SHOULD Biden run for a 2nd term? (5 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Biden has lost support from many people who voted for him in the past.
He is getting up there in age.
Here are a couple of sites I'd like to share...
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Octogenarian Biden begins new year facing age-old question on 2024 race

In the coming months, Biden faces a simple question: will he seek a second term at the end of which he would be 86?

www.theguardian.com

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Biden 2024? Most Democrats say no thank you: AP-NORC poll

A majority of Democrats now think one term is plenty for President Joe Biden, despite his insistence that he plans to seek reelection in 2024. While Biden has trumpeted his legislative victories and ability to govern, the poll suggests relatively few U.S. adults give him high marks on either...

news.yahoo.com

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WHAT DO ANY OF YOU THINK?
IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BEST SERVED BY HAVING PRESIDENT BIDEN RUN FOR ANOTHER TERM OR WOULD A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE BE BETTER?

 

[MT15]

Trump is over on Fox showing he doesn’t know fact from fiction, while Biden is being president and running the country.

 

[SaintForLife]

I want a ceasefire and I'm sure as hell going to vote for Biden. I already voted for him in the California primary when I filled out my ballot and dropped it into the ballot box last Friday.

I think everyone here who've been posting in this thread besides you are most likely to vote for him in the general election, it's primary protest voting that we're talking about.

I think that Israel will wrap this offensive in Gaza up soon, and without further action this issue will in effect go away until next time.

There will be a next time but it might not be for a couple of years.

I understand there are Democrats like yourself that do support a ceasefire and will still vote for Biden.

The Democrats who don't support Isreal, now or in the past, and want a ceasefire most likely won't be voting for Biden. For those voters the damage is already done in regards to Biden's unconditional support of Isreal. A ceasefire won't change that.

 

[Lapaz]

I understand there are Democrats like yourself that do support a ceasefire and will still vote for Biden.

The Democrats who don't support Isreal, now or in the past, and want a ceasefire most likely won't be voting for Biden. For those voters the damage is already done in regards to Biden's unconditional support of Isreal. A ceasefire won't change that.

I doubt that many Democrats that are regular voters will decide not to vote for Biden due to this issue. There may be a few, but if they realize that Trump would probably do worse, I think they’ll do the correct thing. Hopefully they see that Biden has been critical of Israel’s approach and has been pressuring them to change. It is a no win situation, because Israel has been a good friend. They are like many Americans that have swayed away from our traditional values, but are still part of our interests. All the while, Gaza is led by a group that is against our interests. We have competing interests, and Biden is trying to be true to both. There will be some Arab Americans that won’t agree with the balance, but most will understand the difficult situation, and realize their interests are still better served by Democrats.

 

[SamAndreas]

I understand there are Democrats like yourself that do support a ceasefire and will still vote for Biden.

The Democrats who don't support Isreal, now or in the past, and want a ceasefire most likely won't be voting for Biden. For those voters the damage is already done in regards to Biden's unconditional support of Isreal. A ceasefire won't change that.

President Biden supports a cease fire. He didn't support the UN imposing one, not that they could impose one, but he still supports the idea if it comes from the parties involved in the conflict.

Arab Americans make up 0.6% of the US population. Rashida Tlaib holds the seat for the only Congregational distinct in the entire US with a majority Arab American population. Overall in Michigan their population is only 2%, and almost all of them are in Detroit.

Did you know that Native Americans actually outnumber Arab Americans by about 2 to 1. Our native population is growing, back in 1970 Arab Americans and Native Americans populations were about equal in size.

Jewish Americans outnumber Arab Americans by 4 to 1.

 

[MT15]

I understand there are Democrats like yourself that do support a ceasefire and will still vote for Biden.

The Democrats who don't support Isreal, now or in the past, and want a ceasefire most likely won't be voting for Biden. For those voters the damage is already done in regards to Biden's unconditional support of Isreal. A ceasefire won't change that.

Who told you this?

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

President Biden supports a cease fire. He didn't support the UN imposing one, not that they could impose one, but he still supports the idea if it comes from the parties involved in the conflict.

Arab Americans make up 0.6% of the US population. Rashida Tlaib holds the seat for the only Congregational distinct in the entire US with a majority Arab American population. Overall in Michigan their population is only 2%, and almost all of them are in Detroit.

Did you know that Native Americans actually outnumber Arab Americans by about 2 to 1. Our native population is growing, back in 1970 Arab Americans and Native Americans populations were about equal in size.

Jewish Americans outnumber Arab Americans by 4 to 1.

Thank you for those stats. Sincerely.
It's a good foundation to know what you've shared when viewing politics across our nation.

 

[SaintForLife]

(D) is not a unified mono-block (not sure what to call it) unlike (R) who are, for the most part, more lock-step and all mostly go along with everything their head-guy says/wants etc.

That's actually the opposite with the votes for and against Ukraine funding.

 

[SaintForLife]

I doubt that many Democrats that are regular voters will decide not to vote for Biden due to this issue. There may be a few, but if they realize that Trump would probably do worse, I think they’ll do the correct thing.

I have no idea how many won't vote for Biden over Isreal, but the last Biden wants is losing votes in swing states

Hopefully they see that Biden has been critical of Israel’s approach and has been pressuring them to change.

I vehemently disagree that is the case. Biden has given a green light to Isreal with seemingly no restrictions. Statements from Biden don't mean anything. He could easily cut off money to Isreal to force a ceasefire.

It is a no win situation, because Israel has been a good friend. They are like many Americans that have swayed away from our traditional values, but are still part of our interests. All the while, Gaza is led by a group that is against our interests. We have competing interests, and Biden is trying to be true to both. There will be some Arab Americans that won’t agree with the balance, but most will understand the difficult situation, and realize their interests are still better served by Democrats.

There is obviously room to blame both sides in Isreal vs Palestinians, but Isreal keeping the Palestinians in open air prisons is absolutely horrible.

Bassem Youseff is a significant voice in the Arab-American community that has 11.6 million followers on X:

 

[SamAndreas]

I vehemently disagree that is the case. Biden has given a green light to Isreal with seemingly no restrictions. Statements from Biden don't mean anything. He could easily cut off money to Isreal to force a ceasefire.

SFL that's hard to distill. You make a statement, "I vehemently disagree that is the case. Biden has given a green light to Israel with seemingly no restrictions."

If that's true it must have come from a statement Biden statement made somewhere at sometime, otherwise it isn't true.

Then in the next breath you say, "Statements from Biden don't mean anything."

Your first statement or your second statement doesn't mean anything. They conflict with each other.

It could be both statements don't mean anything at the same time. But it would be impossible for both statements to mean something at the same time. One of them has to go.

 

[Lapaz]

I have no idea how many won't vote for Biden over Isreal, but the last Biden wants is losing votes in swing states

I vehemently disagree that is the case. Biden has given a green light to Isreal with seemingly no restrictions. Statements from Biden don't mean anything. He could easily cut off money to Isreal to force a ceasefire.


There is obviously room to blame both sides in Isreal vs Palestinians, but Isreal keeping the Palestinians in open air prisons is absolutely horrible.

Bassem Youseff is a significant voice in the Arab-American community that has 11.6 million followers on X:

Youseff is an idiot. He may get what he wishes for with Trump, who will probably double down on support for Israel and deport as many Muslims as he can get away with, and he won’t even ask for humanitarian aid for Gaza. Muslims are one of the most detested groups among MAGA, so he will have a lot more to worry about than being blackmailed. If Trump manages to turn us into an authoritarian state, he may deport Palestinians back to Gaza. His vote won’t exist.

 

[SaintForLife]

Youseff is an idiot. He may get what he wishes for with Trump, who will probably double down on support for Israel and deport as many Muslims as he can get away with, and he won’t even ask for humanitarian aid for Gaza. Muslims are one of the most detested groups among MAGA, so he will have a lot more to worry about than being blackmailed. If Trump manages to turn us into an authoritarian state, he may deport Palestinians back to Gaza. His vote won’t exist.

He sounds pretty reasonable to me. It sounds like he was describing exactly what you just said above.

You didn't address any of his concerns and you went straight to Trump is bad.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Youseff is an idiot.

He sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Of course he sounds reasonable to you.

You didn't address any of his concerns and you went straight to Trump is bad.

He started off with solid questioning of American policy and then attributed all of it to the geriatric, genocidal & demented Joe Biden who does nothing for the people Gaza which is just idiotic.

Biden is the President of the United States and Gaza is not a state in our union nor are they an ally. Like it or not, Israel IS an ally and there's not a single US government entity that has ever wavered from that position in my FATHER'S lifetime.

Had he stuck with his dislike of American policies instead of personal attacks against Biden, his position would held more weight. He choose to show his true colors and put his idiotic views on Biden, Democrats and the liberals on display.

 

[Heathen]

think everyone here who've been posting in this thread besides you are most likely to vote for him in the general election, it's primary protest voting that we're talking about.

Right. In Michigan it was pretty substantial in their primary (~100k votes)

Although it seems the ceasefire deal fell through from what I’m reading

 

[Heathen]

Youseff is an idiot. He may get what he wishes for with Trump, who will probably double down on support for Israel and deport as many Muslims as he can get away with, and he won’t even ask for humanitarian aid for Gaza. Muslims are one of the most detested groups among MAGA, so he will have a lot more to worry about than being blackmailed. If Trump manages to turn us into an authoritarian state, he may deport Palestinians back to Gaza. His vote won’t exist.

Hold on

Why is he an “idiot”? Because he doesn’t necessarily hold some of the same views?

 

[Taurus]

Hold on

Why is he an “idiot”? Because he doesn’t necessarily hold some of the same views?

I think Lapaz explained why he thinks dude is an idiot directly after calling him one.

 

[Heathen]

I think Lapaz explained why he thinks dude is an idiot directly after calling him one.

In which case he more or less calls myself and probably millions of other Democrats 'idiots' as well because we agree with a lot of what Yousseff said.

It's easy to call people names online. I just don't think a difference of opinion makes someone 'an idiot', nor do I think it's a productive way to get people to see your side if that is one's goal.

 

[Taurus]

In which case he more or less calls myself and probably millions of other Democrats 'idiots' as well because we agree with a lot of what Yousseff said.

It's easy to call people names online. I just don't think a difference of opinion makes someone 'an idiot', nor do I think it's a productive way to get people to see your side if that is one's goal.

If Youssef thinks Biden isn't orders of magnitude more supportive of Gazans than Trump...he is, in fact, an idiot.

 

[Heathen]

If Youssef thinks Biden isn't orders of magnitude more supportive of Gazans than Trump...he is, in fact, an idiot.

He didn’t say that, nor did he insinuate it.

That’s where I feel people take this extra step of conflating lack of support for Biden’s sh** policies and calling himself a “Zionist” (I mean, this is pretty objectively tone deaf) with thinking that Trump would somehow me better.

It’s never been that way. Not even once.