SHOULD Biden run for a 2nd term? (7 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Biden has lost support from many people who voted for him in the past.
He is getting up there in age.
Here are a couple of sites I'd like to share...
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Octogenarian Biden begins new year facing age-old question on 2024 race

In the coming months, Biden faces a simple question: will he seek a second term at the end of which he would be 86?

www.theguardian.com

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Biden 2024? Most Democrats say no thank you: AP-NORC poll

A majority of Democrats now think one term is plenty for President Joe Biden, despite his insistence that he plans to seek reelection in 2024. While Biden has trumpeted his legislative victories and ability to govern, the poll suggests relatively few U.S. adults give him high marks on either...

news.yahoo.com

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WHAT DO ANY OF YOU THINK?
IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BEST SERVED BY HAVING PRESIDENT BIDEN RUN FOR ANOTHER TERM OR WOULD A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE BE BETTER?

 

[SaintForLife]

If you think Putin is telling the truth about preferring Biden over Trump, well, bless your heart. You’re probably the only one who believes that here.

Putin did this to signal his total disdain for Tucker and Trump. He finds it infinitely easier to manipulate Trump, who worships him like a dog with his master.

You believed what Putin said about Tucker, but now you know he's lying?

Any foreign leader would prefer Biden to be President over Trump because they know Biden with his dementia obviously isn't running the country and they probably feel sorry for Biden.

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[bird]

Do you think that it was fair in any way that 30,000 Palestinian people slaughtered by the IDF in response to October 7th?

Do you think it was fair that the IDF has rendered most of Gaza a wasteland?

I’ll put it to you another way..do you think if Hamas had killed 30,000 Israelis that it would be a horrific case of genocide?

Answer that.

No. Because you won’t answer. Stating killing 30,000 people is bad doesn’t mean ANYTHING in the context of solving the problem. Sure, it is horrible. Sure, power holders with military superiority overreact. Think the US in Iraq or Vietnam.

Answer the question. What is your solution?

 

[bird]

You believed what Putin said about Tucker, but now you know he's lying?

Any foreign leader would prefer Biden to be President over Trump because they know Biden with his dementia obviously isn't running the country and they probably feel sorry for Biden.

As opposed to Trump’s rambling, nonsensical, ravings full of words with no sentences and no thoughts beyond the lizard brain?

Btw, do you have a medical degree with a specialty in gerontology or the study of dementia or do you just spout the “Biden has dementia” drivel?

 

[SamAndreas]

You believed what Putin said about Tucker, but now you know he's lying?

Any foreign leader would prefer Biden to be President over Trump because they know Biden with his dementia obviously isn't running the country and they probably feel sorry for Biden.

LOL, now that was funny. As a loaded statements go, that one is so overload that it reminds me of this overloaded truck.

 

[SaintForLife]

LOL, now that was funny. As a loaded statements go, that one is so overload that it reminds me of this overloaded truck.

 

[bird]

Wow, a skit. What deep penetrating medical analysis. Like SNL’s treatment of the cognitively impaired Trump?

 

[SamAndreas]

I watch it, didn't see The DNC in panic mode.

Here's the deal SFL, It's February, do you think this issue will be the same insofar as affecting Biden come November nine months from now?

Look what can happen in nine months:

 

[SamAndreas]

 

[SaintForLife]

I watch it, didn't see The DNC in panic mode.

Here's the deal SFL, It's February, do you think this issue will be the same insofar as affecting Biden come November nine months from now?

Look what can happen in nine months:

The Democrats that want a ceasefire will most likely never vote for Biden.

What do you think will change by November in regards to Isreal? Will the genocide by Isreal be magically reversed by November? Will all those children that have been killed by Isreal be brought back to life?

 

[SystemShock]

Yeah, I don't think Biden's victory is certain by stretch of the imagination. It's weird to me that the polling is like 45% for Trump and 42% for Biden (or reversed, but all the polls are around that right now)... I'd think it would be lower for both with more undecided/3rd party though.

Fortunately, it's still very early in the election season... Israel will probably finish up their war against Hamas in the next few months, at that point Biden could differentiate himself from Trump more (we'll see if he does it, but what I assess the difference between the two is how to handle Palestinian reconstruction and self governance and the settler policy - which will be more visible after Israel finishes their operations, which neither of them will stop).

There's also going to be a huge difference in fundraising due to Trump's legal fees. This should lead to more ground mobilization.

Plus, right now the focus is mostly on the sitting president, and people can birch and moan about him... as it gets closer, and you just run ads over and over again just highlighting Trump's words. The testimonials from women affected by Roe v Wade. And so on, that should have an effect. At least I hope it does.

... and I hope you are right too. The piling-on on Biden makes me uneasy. I get that Biden isn't perfect, and that he's old... but I really, really don't think it is the right time for that among the Dems.

 

[zztop]

If Congress wasn't engaged in a partisan fight with extremist within Congress, would they even blink at approving such aid?

The bypass of Congress happened because of the infighting over the budget, Ukraine, border security, etc. There isn't the political will to turn away from Israel in Congress and if Congress were operating without the extreme infighting we see today, they would have approved full aid to Israel.

I mentioned this before, but It might have helped his public perception w/ certain voters, if it went through congress. Vs him personally doing it himself (bypass). I think the US could could have provided aid, not related to weapons. I think that would have seemed more neutral vs a bunch of weapons.

Now whether they could get something done with that speaker/crazies in the house... no idea (maybe/probably not). To me there is a distinction between how the IDF is using these weapons vs being used for defense (as they would be in Ukraine). I think the IDF would have been fine without more weapons, so wasn't an urgent situation like w/ Ukraine

Anyways, main point: him personally doing it can/has resulted in negative criticism, and some will express this through voting uncommitted. If people feel their voices aren't being heard, maybe this will get them noticed. I think it already has, since Biden sent some people over to Michigan

 

[SystemShock]

Okay.

I'll give four off the top of my head: Calling out my own party, engaging in inter-party debates and discussions, organizing or participating in rallies / protests, utilizing social media, volunteering..

In other words, nothing. Putting up a show here and there does nothing.

Yes, really. I'm surprised you're asking the question.

Do you seriously not see what's happening in Gaza as terrorism from the state of Israel against the Palestinian people?

I see a military offense. I don't see car bombs in malls or buses where the unsuspected masses gather. The Israelis are telling them they are going in, where they are bombing, etc. By definition, that isn't terrorism. Terrorism is what Hamas does.

f I sell guns to domestic terrorists who frequently go into crowds of people and shoot them - and then after they've killed hundreds, say things like "you need to stop doing it in this way" yet still continue to sell guns to them AND have their back if anyone targets them...

Is that not an example of supporting terrorism?

Selling guns isn't supporting anything. Dirty business, sure. But again, the IDF is an army, that declared war on the people who perpetrated a terrorist attack on Israel.

And just like 2016, regardless of if I vote Biden or not...My party could choke the election away to a fascist.

And why would that be? Because voters don't vote.

At some point we have to stop pointing the finger out at everyone else and ask.."Is the reason we're losing because of something WE could've been doing better?"

Yes, what we can do better, is unite against the immediate domestic threat. We can bicker and an argue and whine after the threat has passed.

 

[zztop]

... and I hope you are right too. The piling-on on Biden makes me uneasy. I get that Biden isn't perfect, and that he's old... but I really, really don't think it is the right time for that among the Dems.

(D) is not a unified mono-block (not sure what to call it) unlike (R) who are, for the most part, more lock-step and all mostly go along with everything their head-guy says/wants etc. (D) has a wide spectrum, everything from Manchin to AOC - thats quite a spectrum of different thoughts/opinions etc. I'm not sure if this will lead to a real, significant fracture in the party. I think it is possible for the politicians etc to have constructive criticism and still ultimately support him at election time.

Now voters can be more fickle, also more self-centered "what has he done for me lately" kind of thinking. It is sometimes really hard to think for the betterment of all mankind vs the betterment of "me"

 

[SystemShock]

(D) is not a unified mono-block (not sure what to call it) unlike (R) who are, for the most part, more lock-step and all mostly go along with everything their head-guy says/wants etc. (D) has a wide spectrum, everything from Manchin to AOC - thats quite a spectrum of different thoughts/opinions etc. I'm not sure if this will lead to a real, significant fracture in the party. I think it is possible for the politicians etc to have constructive criticism and still ultimately support him at election time.

Now voters can be more fickle, also more self-centered "what has he done for me lately" kind of thinking. It is sometimes really hard to think for the betterment of all mankind vs the betterment of "me"

I get that Democrats are not a unified front, but yet again, this is not the time for 'democratier than thou" or purity tests, it is the time to put aside differences and prevent Donald Trump from reaching the WH.

And even if voters are self-centered, they need to understand that the liberal issues they care about, will be negatively impacted, and impacted severely, with a Trump presidency.

 

[MT15]

Bless your heart.

 

[MT15]

You believed what Putin said about Tucker, but now you know he's lying?

Show me where I said I believed anything Putin says. I was basically telling you that he treated Tucker like dirt, and disrespected him. That’s not the same thing.

 

[SamAndreas]

The Democrats that want a ceasefire will most likely never vote for Biden.

What do you think will change by November in regards to Isreal? Will the genocide by Isreal be magically reversed by November? Will all those children that have been killed by Isreal be brought back to life?

I want a ceasefire and I'm sure as hell going to vote for Biden. I already voted for him in the California primary when I filled out my ballot and dropped it into the ballot box last Friday.

I think everyone here who've been posting in this thread besides you are most likely to vote for him in the general election, it's primary protest voting that we're talking about.

I think that Israel will wrap this offensive in Gaza up soon, and without further action this issue will in effect go away until next time.

There will be a next time but it might not be for a couple of years.