Right wing nuts thread (1 Viewer)

[DaveXA]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but we need a thread for the wing nuts. Lauren Boebert.

 

[MT15]

For example - Trump friendly accounts were saying that FEMA came in and grounded all the volunteer aircraft that were delivering supplies to remote areas. It wasn’t actually true - what they did was to tell volunteers they need to coordinate with FEMA because of the many near-miss air collisions.

 

[DaveXA]

These MAGA idiots will stop at nothing. Terrible.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

For example - Trump friendly accounts were saying that FEMA came in and grounded all the volunteer aircraft that were delivering supplies to remote areas. It wasn’t actually true - what they did was to tell volunteers they need to coordinate with FEMA because of the many near-miss air collisions.

Yes, Elon. That is exactly what Pete is saying, you miserable piece of shirt.

 

[LA - L.A.]

For example - Trump friendly accounts were saying that FEMA came in and grounded all the volunteer aircraft that were delivering supplies to remote areas. It wasn’t actually true - what they did was to tell volunteers they need to coordinate with FEMA because of the many near-miss air collisions.

Just want to point out that Musk specifically mentions his Starlink equipment blocked from being given out. Everytime there's a disaster or war, Musk is there trying to hand out his Starlink. Starlink, Skynet...hmmmm.

 

[DaveXA]

Yes, Elon. That is exactly what Pete is saying, you miserable piece of shirt.

Yes, they are lying. I mean, this is MAGA, people who will lie to manipulate and fool people who are gullible.

 

[MT15]

Just want to point out that Musk specifically mentions his Starlink equipment blocked from being given out. Everytime there's a disaster or war, Musk is there trying to hand out his Starlink. Starlink, Skynet...hmmmm.

From what I have read, Musk isn’t donating anything. FEMA for sure purchased the ones they are distributing and other agencies presumably are as well.

The latest rumor yesterday was that Asheville was completely blockaded by the Feds, and they weren’t allowing anyone in or out. Which prompted locals to post videos of the streets and them coming and going as they please. One said a lot of people (most in the city) have power and cell service. The problem is that on Twitter the accounts posting the lies are boosted like crazy and the accounts rebutting are not. Musk is actively promoting the lies as well.

Community Notes are not being used on any of the posted lies that I have seen, even though I put in a request every time I see one of them.

Musk is doing as much damage to this country as any foreign adversarial intelligence service could at this point. He’s actively harming the US.

 

[DaveXA]

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Musk is doing as much damage to this country as any foreign adversarial intelligence service could at this point. He’s actively harming the US.

And this is really what matters. Musk is literally an enemy of the state and should be in prison and Starlink put in conservatorship under the DOD or appropriate agency. It's a direct threat to national security in Musk's hands because of his previous tied to Poots and Russian interests.

 

[LA - L.A.]

From what I have read, Musk isn’t donating anything. FEMA for sure purchased the ones they are distributing and other agencies presumably are as well.

The latest rumor yesterday was that Asheville was completely blockaded by the Feds, and they weren’t allowing anyone in or out. Which prompted locals to post videos of the streets and them coming and going as they please. One said a lot of people (most in the city) have power and cell service. The problem is that on Twitter the accounts posting the lies are boosted like crazy and the accounts rebutting are not. Musk is actively promoting the lies as well.

Community Notes are not being used on any of the posted lies that I have seen, even though I put in a request every time I see one of them.

Musk is doing as much damage to this country as any foreign adversarial intelligence service could at this point. He’s actively harming the US.

Thanks for pointing that out. I forgot to mention that Elon Musk is lying when he says he's donating the StarLink systems.

 

[MT15]

lol go on Marge drink that bacteria cocktail…

 

[SamAndreas]

I grew up on raw milk. It came from our own cows.

It's a damned lot of work. Kind of like having two kitchens to keep clean. The back porch was both a laundry, a dairy, and a butcher shop. Lots of sinks and counters both places to keep clean.

Coolers, freezers, saws, and grinders. A cream separator which is a hand cranked centrifuge. The ice cream makers was also hand cranked. As were the butter churn and the cider press.

Lots of hand cranks.

When it comes out of the cow milk is warm.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

When it comes out of the cow milk is warm.

Who do you think doesn’t know this, lol? I’m familiar with lactation as a biological process.

Drinking raw milk isn’t very safe. You can do it without issue until there is an issue. It’s sort of like seatbelts. We never wore them when I was a child, I used to stand up on the big bench front seat between my mom and dad sometimes. I got away with it, never got hurt. Wasn’t a great idea though.

 

[DaveXA]

lol go on Marge drink that bacteria cocktail…

Good lord people are utterly stupid when it comes to politics. Please drink the sheet to your heart's content Marge. Just don't whine when you suffer as a result of it.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

raw milk is great in the right setting.
selling it at grocery stores and trying to serve it at school isn't it.
we had a cow growing up, we drank milk all the time (i barely drink it today because i had enough for 2 lifetimes already). but it from the farmers market, but it isn't something the populous should be drinking in a commercial setting. stores wouldn't sell it anyway because they don't want 1000s of lawsuits from people being sick.
I'm gonna say MTG has never drank raw milk before.. lol

 

[LA - L.A.]

lol go on Marge drink that bacteria cocktail…

This is one of those things that get polarized into black and white thinking. There are people who go overboard both for and against raw dairy.

Properly handled raw milk and raw dairy products from healthy cows is safe to consume and has nutrients and health benefits that pasteurized milk does not. Healthy cows produce healthy milk, but healthy cows are expensive which makes healthy raw dairy products more expensive.

Another issue with raw dairy products is that it cannot be safely mass manufactured and distributed like pasteurized dairy can. For starters, the cows in those system are unhealthy because of the the things done to them to make them mass produce extreme amounts of milk. Those cows produce unhealthy milk that has to be pasteurized to be safe to consume. Even if those cows were able to produce healthy milk. the massive scale of the milk processing and distribution operations makes it impossible to keep the milk uncontaminated after extraction. So, the milk has to be pasteurized for that reason as well.

The unregulated, early industrial age is what made it necessary to start pasteurizing milk. The air and water pollution from unregulated factories weakened the immune systems of dairy cows which lead to the cows producing disease riddled milk. Instead of cleaning up the air and water so the cows could get healthy and produce healthy milk again, it was cheaper just to clean up the tainted milk. Mass manufactured dairy back then, and to this day, is significantly contaminated with man made pollution and toxins. Pasteurization doesn't take any of that detrimental stuff out of the milk.

My family and my father's sister's family shared the milk from our milk cows until I was 12 years old. We got all of our milk from a few of our cows. The cows were organic, grass fed and pasture raised, even though those terms hadn't been coined yet. I was around 7 years old when the family got it's first table top pasteurizer. There were over 10 people who drank raw milk for over a decade and no one ever got sick from it. Before they started pasteurizing the milk, it went from the cows to the refrigerator in less than 30 minutes. That and keeping the cows healthy and happy kept the raw milk safe to consume.

25 years later, I drank a blender shake every morning that was raw milk and raw egg based. The milk was expensive, because it was organic, grass fed, pasture raised, and refrigerated immediately after milking and kept refrigerated through the entire distribution process. The small dairy farm only supplied to stores that it could deliver milk to overnight or in less time. I drink that shake every morning for 3 years during the early 2000's. I never got sick from it and was a big reason why that 3 years was the healthiest years of my life. I only stopped drinking it, because it got too expensive and difficult to get the milk. 2 of the 3 responsible raw dairy farms got put out of business by strong arm tactics of the big dairy lobby.

I'm not advocating for raw dairy. I'm just pointing out this is another example of how our society has a tendency to see everything as a matter of binary opposite absolutes.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I grew up on raw milk. It came from our own cows.

It's a damned lot of work. Kind of like having two kitchens to keep clean. The back porch was both a laundry, a dairy, and a butcher shop. Lots of sinks and counters both places to keep clean.

Coolers, freezers, saws, and grinders. A cream separator which is a hand cranked centrifuge. The ice cream makers was also hand cranked. As were the butter churn and the cider press.

Lots of hand cranks.

When it comes out of the cow milk is warm.

You were so much more succinct. Wish I would have seen your post before making mine. We just did cream on top and either scooped the cream off the top or shook it back into the milk.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Who do you think doesn’t know this, lol? I’m familiar with lactation as a biological process.

Drinking raw milk isn’t very safe. You can do it without issue until there is an issue. It’s sort of like seatbelts. We never wore them when I was a child, I used to stand up on the big bench front seat between my mom and dad sometimes. I got away with it, never got hurt. Wasn’t a great idea though.

Not being sarcastic or facetious, just asking a legitimate thing to think about. As I know you know, people are mammals like cows. What makes us mammals is producing milk for offspring. You say raw milk isn't very safe.

I take that to mean you think raw milk should never be considered safe. Don't a lot of women feed their new born children raw breast milk? The raw milk itself is safe. The safety issue is in the handling of the raw milk after it's been extracted from cows.

 

[DaveXA]

Not being sarcastic or facetious, just asking a legitimate thing to think about. As I know you know, people are mammals like cows. What makes us mammals is producing milk for offspring. You say raw milk isn't very safe.

I take that to mean you think raw milk should never be considered safe. Don't a lot of women feed their new born children raw breast milk? The raw milk itself is safe. The safety issue is in the handling of the raw milk after it's been extracted from cows.

Yeah, but I ain't trusting handlers with my raw milk in a manufacturing setting lol. I know you're not surggeting that, just sayin'. I'd definitely drink raw milk from a healthy cow.

Marge wouldn't know a healthy cow from a sick one, and even less chance she understands how manufacturing large quantities of milk gets accomplished. What she's suggesting in that everyone should drink raw milk is not only impossible because more people don't have their own healthy cows, it's outright dangerous because misinformed people will start thinking they can just drink raw milk from whatever cow without understanding the safety measures needed to produce milk.