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Wasn't sure where to put this, but we need a thread for the wing nuts. Lauren Boebert.
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Quite the list of well liked, well thought of, well respected people who completely changed once they entered Trump’s orbit
I think that Sean Spicer was very well regarded, Elise Stefanik was a ‘normal’ moderate republican
Giuliani was America’s Mayor and his previous failed presidency candidacies (among other things) aside would have been remembered fondly forever for his 9-11 response
The HBO documentary on Giuliani was fascinating, if you haven’t seen well worth the watch
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I honestly think he's got some mental health issues.
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Well he does think he's America's - female horse.
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I think what happens is that Trump destroys the facade of those who get involved with him. I think being around Trump reveals what people are hiding. I don't think it actually changes them.
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Some far-right extremists have fled Telegram for a new haven: SimpleX, a messaging service that just secured over $1m in funding with the help of Jack Dorsey, once the CEO of Twitter, now known as X.
The migration from Telegram began after the app’s founder and chief executive, Pavel Durov, announced a crackdown on illegal content and cooperation with law enforcement requests. Just weeks ago, Durov was arrested in France on a litany of charges that allege Telegram helped spread child sexual abuse material and fuelled criminal activities among its users.
Some of those users are far-right extremists who are now avowedly nervous to use the app and have pivoted to SimpleX, an obscure secure messaging app promising unparalleled privacy and encryption options.
The app is perceived as a safer alternative and consequently gaining momentum, because it does not require any user authentication or identifications in the form of an email or phone number, which SimpleX says “radically improves your privacy”.
On its website, SimpleX claims it cannot track “your profile, contacts and metadata” hiding it from its own servers, admitting: “We don’t know how many people use our SimpleX servers.”…….
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The migration from Telegram began after the app’s founder and chief executive, Pavel Durov, announced a crackdown on illegal content and cooperation with law enforcement requests. Just weeks ago, Durov was arrested in France on a litany of charges that allege Telegram helped spread child sexual abuse material and fuelled criminal activities among its users.
Some of those users are far-right extremists who are now avowedly nervous to use the app and have pivoted to SimpleX, an obscure secure messaging app promising unparalleled privacy and encryption options.
The app is perceived as a safer alternative and consequently gaining momentum, because it does not require any user authentication or identifications in the form of an email or phone number, which SimpleX says “radically improves your privacy”.
On its website, SimpleX claims it cannot track “your profile, contacts and metadata” hiding it from its own servers, admitting: “We don’t know how many people use our SimpleX servers.”…….
Far-right extremists flee from Telegram to SimpleX over privacy features
App that doesn’t require users’ emails or phone numbers secured over $1m in funding with help from Jack Dorsey
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Leo’s name is definitely out there Jankowski not so much, looks like he’s caused u joy st as much damage, maybe more so
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Two men recognized and exploited the anti-democratic loopholes within America’s rickety democracy in order to deliver Republicansvictories that they could never win at the ballot box.
Now their willfully minoritarian creations threaten the very essence of a representative democracy: if Donald Trump, rightwing courts, gerrymandered state legislatures and an extreme Republican caucus in the US House of Representatives create constitutional chaos over the certification of this presidential election, two men cleared the path.
The single-minded determination of Leonard Leo built a conservative supermajority on the US supreme court and stacked lower and state courts with Republican ideologues that have pushed the nation to the right via the least accountable branch of government.
Chris Jankowski masterminded the partisan gerrymanders that tilted state legislatures and congressional delegations across the south and the purple midwest toward extreme Republicans, ended Barack Obama’s second term before it started, and rendered elections in Wisconsin and North Carolina all but meaningless over the last decade and a half.
Leo and Jankowski understood, separately, that the courts and state legislatures were undervalued and often undefended targets for a deliberate strategy aimed at capturing important levers of power that sometimes float under the radar. They could be Moneyball-ed, to borrow the term Michael Lewis used in his book about how the Oakland A’s made an end-run around large-market teams by understanding value that their opponents overlooked.
What Leo and Jankowski built separately would soon reinforce the other’s creation (with, of course, crucial assists from chief justice John Roberts), tightening the knots around meaningful elections, pushing policy to the extreme right and making it nearly impossible for voters to do anything about it.…….
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Two men recognized and exploited the anti-democratic loopholes within America’s rickety democracy in order to deliver Republicansvictories that they could never win at the ballot box.
Now their willfully minoritarian creations threaten the very essence of a representative democracy: if Donald Trump, rightwing courts, gerrymandered state legislatures and an extreme Republican caucus in the US House of Representatives create constitutional chaos over the certification of this presidential election, two men cleared the path.
The single-minded determination of Leonard Leo built a conservative supermajority on the US supreme court and stacked lower and state courts with Republican ideologues that have pushed the nation to the right via the least accountable branch of government.
Chris Jankowski masterminded the partisan gerrymanders that tilted state legislatures and congressional delegations across the south and the purple midwest toward extreme Republicans, ended Barack Obama’s second term before it started, and rendered elections in Wisconsin and North Carolina all but meaningless over the last decade and a half.
Leo and Jankowski understood, separately, that the courts and state legislatures were undervalued and often undefended targets for a deliberate strategy aimed at capturing important levers of power that sometimes float under the radar. They could be Moneyball-ed, to borrow the term Michael Lewis used in his book about how the Oakland A’s made an end-run around large-market teams by understanding value that their opponents overlooked.
What Leo and Jankowski built separately would soon reinforce the other’s creation (with, of course, crucial assists from chief justice John Roberts), tightening the knots around meaningful elections, pushing policy to the extreme right and making it nearly impossible for voters to do anything about it.…….
Two men have re-engineered the US electoral system in favor of Republicans | David Daley
If the right strews constitutional chaos over the certification of this presidential election, two people will have cleared the path
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LAS VEGAS (AP) — A Nevada Republican politician who ran unsuccessfully two years ago for state treasurer was found guilty Thursday of using funds raised for a statue honoring a slain police officer for personal costs, including plastic surgery.
A jury convicted Michele Fiore, a former Las Vegas city councilwoman and state lawmaker, of six counts of federal wire fraud and one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, KLAS-TV in Las Vegas reported. The weeklong trial in U.S. District Court in Nevada began last week.
Each count carries a possible penalty of 20 years in prison. Fiore, who has been suspended without pay from her current elected position as a justice of the peace in rural Pahrump, Nevada, will be sentenced Jan. 6. She will remain free while she awaits sentencing.
Her attorney, Michael Sanft, said Fiore will appeal the conviction.
Federal prosecutors said at trial that Fiore had raised more than $70,000 for the statue of a Las Vegas police officer shot and killed in 2014 in the line of duty, but instead spent the money on plastic surgery, rent and her daughter’s wedding……..
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LAS VEGAS (AP) — A Nevada Republican politician who ran unsuccessfully two years ago for state treasurer was found guilty Thursday of using funds raised for a statue honoring a slain police officer for personal costs, including plastic surgery.
A jury convicted Michele Fiore, a former Las Vegas city councilwoman and state lawmaker, of six counts of federal wire fraud and one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, KLAS-TV in Las Vegas reported. The weeklong trial in U.S. District Court in Nevada began last week.
Each count carries a possible penalty of 20 years in prison. Fiore, who has been suspended without pay from her current elected position as a justice of the peace in rural Pahrump, Nevada, will be sentenced Jan. 6. She will remain free while she awaits sentencing.
Her attorney, Michael Sanft, said Fiore will appeal the conviction.
Federal prosecutors said at trial that Fiore had raised more than $70,000 for the statue of a Las Vegas police officer shot and killed in 2014 in the line of duty, but instead spent the money on plastic surgery, rent and her daughter’s wedding……..
Nevada politician guilty of using $70,000 meant for statue of slain officer for personal costs
A Nevada Republican politician who ran unsuccessfully two years ago for state treasurer has been found guilty of misusing funds for a statue honoring a slain police officer for political and personal costs.
apnews.comC,mon, coldseat. Empty Greene would disagree with you.
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GOP now tweeting Helene’s path was politically designed to hurt them
bsky.appMan, the stupid really flows through MAGA.
I see what you did there, Sam.
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guess this can go here. Curious what the ratio of our banned members here is
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Late in Tuesday night’s vice-presidential debate, Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) dodged a question about whether he and running mate Donald Trump would accept the 2024 election results by pivoting to a favorite topic: what he called the “censorship” of Americans by social media companies, terming it “a much bigger threat to democracy.”
His statement drew on a years-long Republican contention that Silicon Valley tech giants have suppressed conservative views on platforms such as Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and Twitter. That narrative has underpinned congressional hearings, Republican fundraising campaigns, the dismantling of academic research centers, Elon Musk’s purchase of Twitter, state laws seeking to restrict online content moderation, and multiple lawsuits that reached the Supreme Court this year.
But is it true? Well, yes and no, according to a study published Wednesday in the journal Nature.
Conservatives and Trump supporters are indeed more likely to have their posts on major social media platforms taken down or their accounts suspended than are liberals and Joe Biden supporters, researchers from Oxford University, MIT and other institutions found. But that doesn’t necessarily mean content moderation is biased.
Rather, the study finds that conservative accounts may be more often sanctioned because they post more misinformation.
That might sound either obvious or disingenuous, depending on your point of view. But the study, whose lead author is Oxford Internet Institute professor Mohsen Mosleh, is actually neither.
The Nature paper is not the first to find that conservatives are more likely to share stories that have been debunked, or that originate from fake news sites or other sources deemed “low-quality.” One common objection to such studies is that defining what counts as misinformation can be subjective. For instance, if the fact-checkers skew liberal or the list of fake news sites skews conservative, that in itself could explain the discrepancy in sharing behavior.
But study co-author David G. Rand, an MIT computational social science professor, said his team found that conservatives share more falsehoods and low-quality information online even when you let groups of Republicans define what counts as false or low-quality.
A previous version of the study, which was published online in 2022 before undergoing peer review, focused largely on an analysis of 9,000 politically active Twitter users during the 2020 election. It found that accounts that shared pro-Trump hashtags were both more likely to post links to low-quality sites — including those purveying falsehoods about the election — and more likely to end up suspended than those that shared pro-Biden hashtags.
The study didn’t examine the reasons for suspension, so it’s not clear that the sharing of links to dubious sites was the cause — just that it was correlated. Social media companies can suspend accounts or take down posts for all sorts of reasons, including hate speech, targeted harassment of other users, or because they turn out to be bots.
Since then, Rand said the researchers have bolstered the core findings with seven other datasets examining Twitter users, Facebook users, and surveys from 16 countries spanning 2016 to 2023. Among other things, they found that conservatives from other countries also shared misinformation at higher rates than liberals in those counties.
The research doesn’t prove that social media companies are totally unbiased, Rand told Tech Brief.
What it shows is that conservatives would face more content moderation than liberals even if both the definition of misinformation and the enforcement of policies were politically neutral.
The Nature study “totally makes sense” and dovetails with previous findings, said Filippo Menczer, a computer science professor and director of Indiana University’s Social Media Observatory. His own past work has found that extreme partisans on both the right and the left share more information from low-credibility sources than moderates, but that the phenomenon is much more pronounced on the right than the left.
Given the findings, Menczer said, social media companies would have to be biased in favor of conservatives to sanction liberals at an equal rate..................
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Late in Tuesday night’s vice-presidential debate, Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) dodged a question about whether he and running mate Donald Trump would accept the 2024 election results by pivoting to a favorite topic: what he called the “censorship” of Americans by social media companies, terming it “a much bigger threat to democracy.”
His statement drew on a years-long Republican contention that Silicon Valley tech giants have suppressed conservative views on platforms such as Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and Twitter. That narrative has underpinned congressional hearings, Republican fundraising campaigns, the dismantling of academic research centers, Elon Musk’s purchase of Twitter, state laws seeking to restrict online content moderation, and multiple lawsuits that reached the Supreme Court this year.
But is it true? Well, yes and no, according to a study published Wednesday in the journal Nature.
Conservatives and Trump supporters are indeed more likely to have their posts on major social media platforms taken down or their accounts suspended than are liberals and Joe Biden supporters, researchers from Oxford University, MIT and other institutions found. But that doesn’t necessarily mean content moderation is biased.
Rather, the study finds that conservative accounts may be more often sanctioned because they post more misinformation.
That might sound either obvious or disingenuous, depending on your point of view. But the study, whose lead author is Oxford Internet Institute professor Mohsen Mosleh, is actually neither.
The Nature paper is not the first to find that conservatives are more likely to share stories that have been debunked, or that originate from fake news sites or other sources deemed “low-quality.” One common objection to such studies is that defining what counts as misinformation can be subjective. For instance, if the fact-checkers skew liberal or the list of fake news sites skews conservative, that in itself could explain the discrepancy in sharing behavior.
But study co-author David G. Rand, an MIT computational social science professor, said his team found that conservatives share more falsehoods and low-quality information online even when you let groups of Republicans define what counts as false or low-quality.
A previous version of the study, which was published online in 2022 before undergoing peer review, focused largely on an analysis of 9,000 politically active Twitter users during the 2020 election. It found that accounts that shared pro-Trump hashtags were both more likely to post links to low-quality sites — including those purveying falsehoods about the election — and more likely to end up suspended than those that shared pro-Biden hashtags.
The study didn’t examine the reasons for suspension, so it’s not clear that the sharing of links to dubious sites was the cause — just that it was correlated. Social media companies can suspend accounts or take down posts for all sorts of reasons, including hate speech, targeted harassment of other users, or because they turn out to be bots.
Since then, Rand said the researchers have bolstered the core findings with seven other datasets examining Twitter users, Facebook users, and surveys from 16 countries spanning 2016 to 2023. Among other things, they found that conservatives from other countries also shared misinformation at higher rates than liberals in those counties.
The research doesn’t prove that social media companies are totally unbiased, Rand told Tech Brief.
What it shows is that conservatives would face more content moderation than liberals even if both the definition of misinformation and the enforcement of policies were politically neutral.
The Nature study “totally makes sense” and dovetails with previous findings, said Filippo Menczer, a computer science professor and director of Indiana University’s Social Media Observatory. His own past work has found that extreme partisans on both the right and the left share more information from low-credibility sources than moderates, but that the phenomenon is much more pronounced on the right than the left.
Given the findings, Menczer said, social media companies would have to be biased in favor of conservatives to sanction liberals at an equal rate..................
Yes and widely assumed to be an alcoholic. It’s entirely possible he could function when he was younger but years and years of alcohol abuse have taken a mental toll.
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Yep, that makes sense.
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I haven't felt a pulse in a while...
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Several metal bands have pulled out of a festival in Florida after it was announced Kyle Rittenhouse would appear as a special guest.
Shell Shock II is set to take place in Orlando on October 19. Organisers say that a portion of proceeds from the event will go to support first responders struggling with injuries including Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).
Rittenhouse, 21, made national headlines after fatally shooting two Black Lives Matter protesters and injuring a third in Kinosha, Wisconsin in 2020. He claimed self-defense and was acquitted of all charges.
Jacksonville metalcore band Evergreen Terrace were among the first bands to pull out. In a statement on Facebook, they said that they have “always supported and continues to support philanthropic events for veterans, PTSD awareness, child poverty and many more” but that they will not “align with an event” promoting Rittenhouse “capitalizing off their pseudo celebrity.”
Other bands including Southpaw, Let Me Bleed and American Hollow followed suit in dropping out of the event……..
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Shell Shock II is set to take place in Orlando on October 19. Organisers say that a portion of proceeds from the event will go to support first responders struggling with injuries including Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).
Rittenhouse, 21, made national headlines after fatally shooting two Black Lives Matter protesters and injuring a third in Kinosha, Wisconsin in 2020. He claimed self-defense and was acquitted of all charges.
Jacksonville metalcore band Evergreen Terrace were among the first bands to pull out. In a statement on Facebook, they said that they have “always supported and continues to support philanthropic events for veterans, PTSD awareness, child poverty and many more” but that they will not “align with an event” promoting Rittenhouse “capitalizing off their pseudo celebrity.”
Other bands including Southpaw, Let Me Bleed and American Hollow followed suit in dropping out of the event……..
Metal festival’s Kyle Rittenhouse booking sparks exodus from bands
Rittenhouse claimed self-defense after fatally shooting two Black Lives Matter protestors
www.independent.co.ukMAGA idiots are outdoing themselves with conspiracies about the FEMA response. They think FEMA is there confiscating people’s land - telling them to get out they don’t own the land any longer - and advocating for civil war. Along with all the crazy conspiracies in this tweet. Of course Musk and Trump are amplifying all of these. And I’m sure some of the tweets are from foreign instigators.
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