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    Thought I would start a dedicated topic about her.
    If anyone comes across info pertaining to her, feel free to post it here
     
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    DJ1BigTymer said:
    "Consequences for breaking the law is for the poor" - Nikki Haley
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    The greater the wealth, the lighter the slap on the wrist

    DaveXA said:
    The country ain't moving on if Trump is pardoned. No way, no how. This is just a terrible take by Nikki.
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    sounds awfully familiar to what (R) tends to say after a shooting massacre "now is not the time to be divided, we must heal and move on as a country" (or something along those lines)
     
    zztop said:
    The greater the wealth, the lighter the slap on the wrist



    sounds awfully familiar to what (R) tends to say after a shooting massacre "now is not the time to be divided, we must heal and move on as a country" (or something along those lines)
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    Yeah, I hate the rationalizing. Drives me nuts.
     
    zztop said:
    thehill.com

    Haley says she’d pardon Trump if he’s convicted

    Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley said late Sunday that, if elected to the White House, she would pardon former President Trump if he’s convicted of a federal crime. Asked the question …
    thehill.com thehill.com

    “If you’re talking about pardoning Trump, it’s not a matter of innocence or guilt at that point, because that means he would have already been found guilty,” Haley said at the town hall, hosted by John Roberts. “I believe, in the best interest of bringing the country together, I would pardon Donald Trump. Because I think it’s important for the country to move on.”

    “We’ve got to leave the negativity and the baggage behind,” she added. “I don’t want this country divided any further. I don’t think it’s in the best interests for America to have an 80-year-old president sitting in jail and having everybody upset about it. I think this would be the time that we would need to move forward and get this out of the way.”
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    I think the only reason she's willing to pardon Trump is because she hopes that it would help her get MAGA votes in the general election if she somehow gets the nomination. If she somehow wins the presidential election, she'll make good on it even if it makes her stomach turn, because she doesn't want any part of pissing off MAGA.
     
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    LA - L.A. said:
    I think the only reason she's willing to pardon Trump is because she hopes that it would help her get MAGA votes in the general election if she somehow gets the nomination. If she someone wins the presidential election, she'll make good on it even if it makes her stomach turn, because she doesn't want any part of pissing off MAGA.
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    Funny thing, originally I was also going to give my opinion on her reasons, but then decided not to inject my opinion. I figured I'd let people draw their own conclusions... buuut yeah, this was my thinking too
     
    Welcome to The Campaign Moment, your guide to the biggest developments in the 2024 not-quite-a-general election.
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    Today, that moment is the potential beginning of the end for Nikki Haley. Or perhaps the continuation of a drawn-out ending.

    Whatever you want to call it, this weekend is unlikely to be a happy one for her and is likely to reinforce that her path to victory in the GOP presidential nomination contest is somewhere between vanishing and non-existent.
South Carolina is holding its GOP primary, and Haley trails Donald Trump by an average of 30 points -- including by 26 points in a Washington Post/Monmouth University poll last month.

    This, it bears emphasizing, is her home state.


    Losing your home state is bad. Losing it by that much would be really bad. And losing it by that much after losing every other early state in the nominating race — and after losing 2-to-1 to “none of these candidates” in the Nevada primary — would be disastrous.


    Yet Haley says she’ll soldier on. And she’s not just saying that off-hand because that’s what you have to say when annoying reporters ask you such questions; she gave a whole, defiant speech Tuesday.

    “I’m not going anywhere,” Haley said. “I’m campaigning every day, until the last person votes ...”
All of which gives us a prime opportunity to ask something we’ve been thinking about for a while:

    To the extent Haley actually means she’s in it for the long haul ... why?


    We have a few theories.

    1. She’s waiting out a Spring Surprise


    It’s a calculation that Trump’s would-be usurpers have surely been making for a long time: Be the last one standing in case Trump’s legal problems ultimately bring him down. The former president is going on trial in about a month, after all.
The problem is Trump’s issues have shown no sign of slowing him down in the GOP primary. Most primary voters have said he’d still be fit to serve as president even if convicted. And Trump has already weathered being found liable in civil court for sexual abuse and financial fraud…….

    2. She has no other immediate ambitions


    Haley on Tuesday spoke like someone without much to lose or any political aims beyond this race:

    • She said she’s “pretty well settled” the question of whether she aims to be Trump’s running mate.
    • “Other people say I’m trying to set up a future presidential run," she said. "How does that even work?”
    • “I feel no need to kiss the ring, and I have no fear of Trump’s retribution," she added. “I’m not looking for anything from him. My own political future is of zero concern.”…..

     
    Haley is praying that Trump will be rendered a non-viable candidate due to some court ruling. She probably has some pretty big donors keeping her in the race far longer than she should be in the race. All she's gonna do is make Republican voters mad because as long as she is in the race, the party can't really move on to how they're gonna focus all their resources on attacking Biden. Would not be surprised if she holds out until late spring/early summer.
     
    zztop said:
    Not all the votes are counted yet, but so far looks like roughly a 60/40 split

    apnews.com

    2024 Election Results | AP News

    Live results of primary elections for president, U.S. Senate, U.S. House and governor in 2024 from The Associated Press.
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    If that is so then Haley exceeded her polling by about 5% and Trump came in below his polls by about 5%.

    60% is a pretty poor showing for Trump. Under the circumstances it's suggestive that a significant number of Republicans will not vote for Trump in the general election.
     
    www.nbcnews.com

    The key exit poll numbers that explain Trump’s commanding South Carolina victory

    Trump dominated Nikki Haley across critical Republican voting groups in Saturday’s primary, according to NBC News exit poll results.
    www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

    1. Trump’s dominance among the GOP base​

    Self-described Republicans made up a sizable majority of the South Carolina primary electorate on Saturday (68%), and Trump once again carried these voters by an overwhelming margin, winning 72% to Haley’s 28%.

    Trump also garnered majority support across traditional Republican voting blocs: 85% of very conservative voters, 74% of white evangelicals, 67% of military veterans and 88% of the almost half of Republican primary voters who say they are part of the MAGA movement.

    2. Haley’s smaller coalition​

    Haley did have some success among the more moderate voters and non-Republicans who showed up to vote in the South Carolina GOP primary, but they made up much smaller shares of the electorate.

    The former South Carolina governor overwhelmingly won voters who identify as moderate or liberal, winning 72% to Trump’s 27%, but they only made up one-fifth of the primary vote. Haley also carried independents, who accounted for just 21% of the electorate, though she won them by 19 points, a smaller margin than Trump won with Republicans.

    Haley managed to win 81% of voters who believe President Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 election, but they only made up a third of the electorate.

    3. Voters’ top issues favored Trump​

    A majority of South Carolina GOP primary participants said immigration and the economy were the two issues that were most determinative to their vote. And those voters largely favored Trump.

    Among the 37% of voters who said immigration was their top issue, Trump won 82%, while Haley won just 18%. And among the 33% of voters who said the economy was their top issue, Trump won 64% to Haley’s 36%.

    Haley bested Trump among voters who said foreign policy and abortion were their top issues, but those voters made up just one-fifth of the primary electorate.

    4. Voters made up their minds before Haley’s rise​

    A whopping 77% said they decided whom to support before January, and roughly 3 in 4 of those voters supported Trump. Just 7% decided who they would vote for in January, 7% decided earlier in February, and 8% made their decisions in the last week.
     
    zztop said:
    www.nbcnews.com

    The key exit poll numbers that explain Trump’s commanding South Carolina victory

    Trump dominated Nikki Haley across critical Republican voting groups in Saturday’s primary, according to NBC News exit poll results.
    www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

    1. Trump’s dominance among the GOP base​

    Self-described Republicans made up a sizable majority of the South Carolina primary electorate on Saturday (68%), and Trump once again carried these voters by an overwhelming margin, winning 72% to Haley’s 28%.

    Trump also garnered majority support across traditional Republican voting blocs: 85% of very conservative voters, 74% of white evangelicals, 67% of military veterans and 88% of the almost half of Republican primary voters who say they are part of the MAGA movement.

    2. Haley’s smaller coalition​

    Haley did have some success among the more moderate voters and non-Republicans who showed up to vote in the South Carolina GOP primary, but they made up much smaller shares of the electorate.

    The former South Carolina governor overwhelmingly won voters who identify as moderate or liberal, winning 72% to Trump’s 27%, but they only made up one-fifth of the primary vote. Haley also carried independents, who accounted for just 21% of the electorate, though she won them by 19 points, a smaller margin than Trump won with Republicans.

    Haley managed to win 81% of voters who believe President Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 election, but they only made up a third of the electorate.

    3. Voters’ top issues favored Trump​

    A majority of South Carolina GOP primary participants said immigration and the economy were the two issues that were most determinative to their vote. And those voters largely favored Trump.

    Among the 37% of voters who said immigration was their top issue, Trump won 82%, while Haley won just 18%. And among the 33% of voters who said the economy was their top issue, Trump won 64% to Haley’s 36%.

    Haley bested Trump among voters who said foreign policy and abortion were their top issues, but those voters made up just one-fifth of the primary electorate.

    4. Voters made up their minds before Haley’s rise​

    A whopping 77% said they decided whom to support before January, and roughly 3 in 4 of those voters supported Trump. Just 7% decided who they would vote for in January, 7% decided earlier in February, and 8% made their decisions in the last week.
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    I'm glad you posted that. If self described Republicans made up 68%, then Independents who usually vote GOP, and who used to be Republicans mostly pealed away to support the Not-Trump, and they are a whopping 31% of what once was the Republican electorate, her share of that 31% is 73%.

    And she also got 28% of the self described GOP base in addition her share of the 31% who are describing as GOP, but lost to Trump 27% of the 31% who don't self describe as GOP anymore, so with that offset that loss of voters to Trump amounts to 2/3 of the crossover of both groups.


    This spells lycanthropy for Trump.

    Look lycanthropy up.
     
    SamAndreas said:
    This spells lycanthropy for Trump.

    Look lycanthropy up.
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    Hmm only lycanthropy term that I know of has to do with werewolves. I couldn't find a connection to politics.. well... other than Herschel Walker saying he wanted to be a werewolf instead of a vampire and Obama making a joke about it

    www.rollingstone.com

    Barack Obama's Werewolf Jokes Appear to Have Hurt Herschel Walker's Feelings

    The candidate claimed Obama did not "tell the whole story" when poking fun at Walker saying "I want to be a werewolf" rather than a vampire.
    www.rollingstone.com www.rollingstone.com
     
    zztop said:
    Hmm only lycanthropy term that I know of has to do with werewolves. I couldn't find a connection to politics.. well... other than Herschel Walker saying he wanted to be a werewolf instead of a vampire and Obama making a joke about it

    www.rollingstone.com

    Barack Obama's Werewolf Jokes Appear to Have Hurt Herschel Walker's Feelings

    The candidate claimed Obama did not "tell the whole story" when poking fun at Walker saying "I want to be a werewolf" rather than a vampire.
    www.rollingstone.com www.rollingstone.com
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    lycanthrope is a werewolf, lycanthropy has to do with becoming a werewolf, or more generally the belief in werewolves.

    This was my sentence. "This spells lycanthropy for Trump."

    Making the substitution=> "This spells 'become a werewolf' for Trump."
     

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