President Trump and First Lady have tested positive for Virus (Update: Trump to undergo televised ‘medical exam’ Friday night) (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

 

[efil4]

From that tracker. Didn't realize Christie is also in the hospital.

He said he went in as precaution. Obviously he has some comorbitiy issues.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

He said he went in as precaution. Obviously he has some comorbitiy issues.

Yes, like Trump, Christie is morbidly obese... Trump is obviously even higher risk though since he is elderly, and as was recently revealed- he is also low-income.

 

[barbar]

Dan Rather with the succinct take on this whole narrative.



Oh, and the meta data from the two still photos show that they were taken 10 minutes apart. Pretty sure they were just staged photo ops, rather than photos of him actually doing any work.

I would question why the photographer was allowed to be in the room at all, especially with a Covid patient. I don’t know any hospital that would allow this, it’s a pretty strict no visitors policy.

It also looks like the same folders and binder. Pretty clear photo op to me.

 

[Heathen]

I wouldn't believe a lot of what is coming out of WH right now regarding Trump's health. We've heard them say he's doing much better a few days after being flown to the hospital. That isn't generally how this works and I don't buy it. Other sources have said he isn't doing as well.

 

[superchuck500]

From that tracker. Didn't realize Christie is also in the hospital.

Christie said it’s precautionary.

So I want to know date of first positive test. There are now three pieces of evidence that suggest Trump could have known he was positive well before the announcement before midnight Thursday.

- Trump arrived “too late” to the debate to take the Covid test that participants were supposed to take. Instead he went on the ‘honor system’ (per Chris Wallace).

- Trump was administered supplemental oxygen at the White House before going to Walter Reed because his oxygen levels dropped quickly and it was concerning. (per Meadows yesterday).

- Dr. Conley said on Saturday morning that Trump was 72 hours into his diagnosis, which he since walked back.

The thing that I think is most curious is the oxygen. We’ve all been reading about this disease since March and I don’t think oxygen levels become an issue that quickly - the president is supposed to be being tested at least daily, so if his first positive was Thursday, a concerning drop of oxygen levels on Friday seems highly unusual. For example, in the article below it talks about how typically days 5 through 10 are the critical time (when oxygen level monitoring is very import), especially with older patients. It just seems quite curious to me that Trump’s oxygen would be below 92% (when supplemental oxygen would be appropriate) within 24 hours of his first test (on someone who is being tested daily).

If you accept that this is simply highly unlikely, the most logical result is that he had it before Thursday, perhaps even before the debate based on the disease progression timeline. And with this likelihood, the other curious events aren’t coincidence.

Of course the idea that the president would know he’s positive but still travel and attend events in public without announcing it (so that attendees could make an informed decision) or wearing a mask is highly problematic (illegal in many jurisdictions). So they’ve got plenty of reason to cover this up if that’s the truth. They could clear all of this up with evidence but we all know that isn’t going to happen. So we’re left to speculate based on what appears to be very curious to the point of suspicious.

Why Days 5 to 10 Are So Important When You Have Coronavirus (Published 2020)

Tracking your daily symptoms can help you and your doctors make better decisions about whether a hospital visit is needed.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Heathen]

Those people are showing their true colors and a few have already done that before when they wished for the death of their political opponents. "Trump is a horrible person, but hopefully he dies" is not a good look.

It isn't, but I wont judge those who wish death on a man who in many ways contributed to the unnecessary departure of many human beings with his pumping of conspiracy nonsense.

Personally, I don't wish him or anyone around him harm. But I'd be lying if I said I cared greatly either way.

 

[MT15]

Another thing that has occurred to me is that apparently his hair requires a great deal of manipulation in order to look like it does in those pictures and video. He couldn’t do it himself, it would require a professional. So now we have a second person allowed in his suite at WR besides the photographer.

Why is this being allowed? He is contagious with a deadly virus. There should be no visitors at all.

 

[MT15]

Also, agree with Ward, the timeline doesn’t make any sense. I would be willing to bet he knew he was positive well before Friday morning at 1 am. Like maybe even two to three days before. My speculation is that he was asymptomatic and insisted on ignoring it and going ahead with his schedule. Then when his symptoms took a turn for the worse Thursday night through Friday morning, he panicked and gave the okay to announce it.

I don’t trust anything Conley says. I would love to hear from Fauci about the timeline, or have Fauci confirm that daily testing was negative on Tuesday through Thursday.

 

[faceman]

Yes, like Trump, Christie is morbidly obese... Trump is obviously even higher risk though since he is elderly, and as was recently revealed- he is also low-income.

Christie also suffers from Asthma. He tweeted that was the reason he checked himself in.

 

[Optimus Prime]

During the press conference with the doctors they were saying things like, Trump is doing well, he’s in great spirits, his numbers look good, we couldn’t be happier with where things are at right now”

they certainly could’ve sounded happier. They were delivering what appeared to be good news but they sounded so nervous, especially the doctor who spoke right after Conley

My take was that there was something wrong, my cynical side thought I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump was on a ventilator as he was speaking

My girlfriend thinks they sounded nervous because they were. Facing the press in a conference they know the whole county and world would see and scrutize is not what they do

Side note- I’m usually not the best at catching things like this but even I noticed the “he’s not on oxygen “right now” as soon as he said it

 

[faceman]

During the press conference with the doctors they were saying things like, Trump is doing well, he’s in great spirits, his numbers look good, we couldn’t be happier with where things are at right now”

they certainly could’ve sounded happier. They were delivering what appeared to be good news but they sounded so nervous, especially the doctor who spoke right after Conley

My take was that there was something wrong, my cynical side thought I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump was on a ventilator as he was speaking

My girlfriend thinks they sounded nervous because they were. Facing the press in a conference they know the whole county and world would see and scrutize is not what they do

Side note- I’m usually not the best at catching things like this but even I noticed the “he’s not on oxygen “right now” as soon as he said it

He wouldn't be speaking while on a ventilator . That said, He's sick enough to be hospitalized. The extent we do not know.

 

[coldseat]

Those people are showing their true colors and a few have already done that before when they wished for the death of their political opponents. "Trump is a horrible person, but hopefully he dies" is not a good look.

I don't wish or want Trump to suffer. I'll also say that I don't really care what happens to him. I know that sounds cold, but it is what it is.

What I can unequivocally say is that unless Trump suffers a serious enough illness from which he dies or requires him to be hospitalized for a serious amount of time (3 weeks to a month) where he goes on an incubator or worse, then Trump and his base will only grow more emboldened in regards to their stupidity and false narrative regarding Covid-19. Just like Bolsonaro in Brazil. That will make all of us suffer more. From a egalitarian perspective, it would be much better all Americans if his illness is serious and long term.

Also, I'm curious if I'm the only one who's getting tired off all the mystery and drama surrounding his health. It's all too much for somebody I care about but don't care for. Just let me know if he lives or dies.

 

[EmBeeFiveOhFour]

It's one thing to speculate about what might be happening, it's another thing altogether to make definitive claims like above.

What credible information do you have to support that what you've said above is true? Nothing in the photos presented support the claims you made.

And honestly, that closeup photo is not very compelling evidence that he signed a blank document.

Let's hold ourselves to the same standards we hold others to.

The part about room service is conjecture, though.

 

[xpuma20x]

So I suppose from the pictures we could have multiple things.

1) For some odd reason he moves from room to room to do work. One room isn't enough, there's so much work to be done he has to move rooms...at a hospital.

2) They did a photoshoot before hand while he was still feeling well enough to move about and take a couple of snapshots.

3) He actually is feeling alright, actually is doing work and actually is enough of a crazy individual to need to move rooms every 10 minutes.

With all that said, he does look like he's missed a session or two with the spray tanner and he does look more tired/older than I've ever seen him look before. I'm sure his room at the hospital is one of the best there is in the whole world as far as quality of hospital room. It's most likely outfitted with enough televisions for him to keep up with Fox and Friends. However, being a germaphobe and being locked up in a hospital must be driving him insane. I wouldn't be surprised to see him released a lot sooner than we might think, purely on the idea of him hating being there.

Edit: I did think he looked well in the video he released, all things considered. A little somber sounding, but for his age he looked well. I however like him a lot more when he speaks in this manner. Thanking people for their help, thanking people for their positive thoughts/prayers for him by even bipartisan levels. But then he starts rambling on about himself and how great he is, because he just couldn't help it. But overall I like this version a lot better. The joke about Melania being "a tiny bit younger" than himself was both funny and a humble brag at the same time.

 

[FullMonte]

What credible information do you have to support that what you've said above is true? Nothing in the photos presented support the claims you made.

Apparently, the EXIF data shows the two photos were taken 10 minutes apart.

That’s a clear indication that they were staged. Unless, he was hard at work at one table, then decided to go be hard at work in a different room.

 

[CoolBrees]

First off the only thing he worked hard at is cheating at golf.

Second he is trying to exude health. Which means the opposite typically. He’s a con man. He is trying to buy time and hope something changes.

Finally, for months we have heard anecdotal evidence that the virus will knock you down and then you feel better for a few days and then you are hospitalized if it gets worse. If his timeline is to believed, he is in that period.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[CoolBrees]

Yeah I don’t buy that he will be released tomorrow. He even said “as early as tomorrow.”