President Trump and First Lady have tested positive for Virus (Update: Trump to undergo televised ‘medical exam’ Friday night) (5 Viewers)

[MT15]

 

[EmBeeFiveOhFour]

He is doing little hospital parades now for his maskless supporters. This is all objectively hilarious.



Did the Secret Service agents pull straws to figure out who would have to ride in the car with your favorite superspreader President?

 

[EmBeeFiveOhFour]

The audio...

 

[MT15]

There is no way any credible doctor anywhere would allow his highly contagious patient to do this trip in a closed car.

Also in the new video he says he’s met many of the soldiers at WR, IIRC. He’s contagious and should be in very strict airborne isolation.

I’m starting to think he may not really have it. I mean the behavior is medical malfeasance. If any SS or patients or staff at WR come down with Covid because of him gallivanting around I would think there would be serious liability.

The only thing that makes sense is that he doesn’t really have it, he’s not really contagious.

I realize this sounds crazy. I want to hear from Dr. Fauci that he saw the positive test results. Something stinks to high heaven.

Why are they allowing photographers, videographers and hair stylists into his room every day? This whole thing makes zero sense.

 

[EmBeeFiveOhFour]

The reality show producers are on mushrooms now.

 

[Eeyore]

Either he's faking it or this is a weekend at Bernie's situation and they're driving his corpse around to make it look like he's alive.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

No, I'm not kidding. The interpretations and assumptions about what I actually said and what I actually think are off the makr.

I stated clearly I thought it was probably a staged photo opportunity and that the videos were probably staged as well. I also went farther to say that I think they shot a whole bunch of photos and videos that they can trickle out daily, regardless of what and how he's actually doing. Seems that a lot of people missed that. It seems like some people are just looking for things to get riled up and fight about. Anyone that read everything I've written understands that I no way believe that the photos and videos are not propaganda. I even literally said that the video was propaganda.

This is just like the poster going off on people "believing" Trump had changed, when if fact people only expressed "hopes" that he had changed.

That said, I'm not convinced that the close up photo has not been altered. I agree with the claim being made, but I don't see that close up photo as any sort of credible proof at this time. It could have easily been altered and since I don't know that it hasn't been, I don't accept it at face value as proof.

I'm just being consistent. It's something I work hard at doing. If someone on this site had posted a similar photo of a wrinkle in Biden's shirt from the debate and claimed it was from a wire to an earpiece that he was using to get fed answers, I would have pushed back on that photo in the same fashion. I don't change my evaluation of photos based on whether or not I agree with the claims made while presenting photos.

I also have an issue with making extra, unnecessary and unsupported claims like saying the folder had a menu in it. Making stuff up to criticize somebody for being someone that makes stuff up, Trump in this case, is inconsistent and hypocritical in my opinion. I try really hard not to let my biases lead me to being prejudiced and/or hypocritical.

I did the zoom on the first close up photo I posted, got the most recent one from a publication as it was cleaned up better. I promise you, I did not alter it.

Fair enough on the rest of it. I must have missed you saying those qualifications.

From reading that post it seemed you had rolled my photo and any and all speculation as unwarranted and unjustified, and were being a bit snide. Apologies on that misinterpretation.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

The reality show producers are on mushrooms now.

Harkens back the report the other day about secret service members fed up with the disregard the president and his family have treated them with.

You are already tasked with taking a literal bullet for the man, but now you likely have to quarantine from your friends and family, and may catch a deadly and preventable disease, all because the president wants a forking photo op.

Utter scum of a man

 

[Eeyore]

Harkens back the report the other day about secret service members fed up with the disregard the president and his family have treated them with.

You are already tasked with taking a literal bullet for the man, but now you likely have to quarantine from your friends and family, and may catch a deadly and preventable disease, all because the president wants a forking photo op.

Utter scum of a man

I don't think that they have to worry. He doesn't have it.

If he were in isolation, he would be in a negative pressure room. He has been in a suite. This is all theater to divert attention to the story about him being hundreds of millions of dollars in debt and a National security risk.

We're supposed to believe that he's so ill that he's taking experimental treatments, and remendesivir, etc, but also well enough to parade around in an airtight limousine full of people while wearing no more protection than a cloth mask.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

I don't think he's faking it but he obviously has a mild case (which, statistically, is not surprising). Is he using it to his utmost advantage (to defer all the bad media coverage he has been getting the last several days)? Absolutely. But that doesn't worry me too much because, with a guy like Trump, I'm sure there is no shortage of "October Surprises" that will come his way.

 

[Yggdrasill]

I don't think he's faking it but he obviously has a mild case (which, statistically, is not surprising). Is he using it to his utmost advantage (to defer all the bad media coverage he has been getting the last several days)? Absolutely. But that doesn't worry me too much because, with a guy like Trump, I'm sure there is no shortage of "October Surprises" that will come his way.

I am curious why you think it is obvious that he has a mild case? I don't get that impression at all.

 

[MT15]

The treatments described do not fit a mild case, though, at all. They very much point to a severe case, maybe a borderline severe case if you allow that they will probably treat him aggressively. He wouldn’t be on the steroid unless they are seeing lung involvement on imaging, for example.

It doesn’t matter which type of case he has, though, he would still be in isolation, in a negative air flow room. He would not be allowed visitors, he should not be having a photographer, videographer, and hair stylist in his general area. He for damned sure shouldn’t be parading around in a closed SUV with hapless Secret Service agents who should probably now quarantine themselves from their families. This is all irresponsible behavior from what is supposed to be a top notch hospital.

It defies all logic.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

I don't think he's faking it but he obviously has a mild case (which, statistically, is not surprising). Is he using it to his utmost advantage (to defer all the bad media coverage he has been getting the last several days)? Absolutely. But that doesn't worry me too much because, with a guy like Trump, I'm sure there is no shortage of "October Surprises" that will come his way.

I would hesitate to say that.

Unless the administration is lying about the timeline, the normal critical period starts between 5-10 days after your symptoms start. And we already know he was on oxygen and has been through an assembly line of experimental treatments. All before he has reached that average critical period.

Remember, Herman Cain was starting to plan to return to his shooting schedule for some ghoulish newsmax propaganda film they were putting together before he turned south and died.

Clearly he’s not on deaths door, but concluding this is mild seems both incorrect based on what happened so far, and inconclusive in terms of what could happen in the next 5 days plus. Not to mention you have people where the damage is so bad, that even after they get over the virus, they end up in places like the PCU, where my girlfriend works, and they can still deteriorate back and die. As unfortunately happens a not insignificant amount of time.

 

[MT15]

Here is why it is so frustrating.

 

[First Time Poster]

The fact that all of us have legitimate reason to be skeptical whether the forking PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is faking having a virus that has killed close to a quarter of a million Americans is the most banana Republic bullshirt that not even Tom Clancy can conjure up. I am so tired of this bullshirt Administration. They lie and obfuscate so much that no American truly knows what to believe. We need some forking normalcy back on Pennsylvania Ave. Damn.

 

[Eeyore]

There's a good reason why the optics don't match the story. They're lying.

They lie about everything. They never stop lying. But they can't get it straight and they know that they don't have to because most people aren't capable of catching on.

He's sitting in a recliner, eating ice cream, and watching the news to see who is concerned for him.

 

[MT15]

If they are throwing all those treatments at him that they say they are, this isn’t a mild case.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

He's obviously up and around. Granted someone can crash and burn rapidly but so far we don't have much evidence of that. As far as the treatments he's been given I mentioned that I think this has more to do with the fact that he's demanding them/overkill versus him legitimately needing them. The administration is full of incompetents and sycophants -- no one there wants to be the adult in the room if it means antagonizing Trump.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

He's obviously up and around. Granted someone can crash and burn rapidly but so far we don't have much evidence of that. As far as the treatments he's been given I mentioned that I think this has more to do with the fact that he's demanding them/overkill versus him legitimately needing them. The administration is full of incompetents and sycophants -- no one there wants to be the adult in the room if it means antagonizing Trump.

We don’t really have evidence that the treatment is just Trump being overly cautious and his doctors being recklessly abiding. Or that he has been up and around beyond some staged events.

It seems like you are trading one speculation for another. Which is fine, but that is what is required to get to that conclusion. Same as the rest of us tbf....And that’s honesty it’s own issue, because the American people have a right to know the truth, not the manufactured reality Trump wants to project.

Unless you are on deaths door, most people can function for periods of the day, especially if you are on steroids.

And I can’t help but reiterate, Herman Cain checked into the hospital July 1st for some symptoms, he died on July 30th. In between there people thought he was on the road to recovery and was actively planning out his post hospital schedule.