Moderates that voted for Biden in Virginia are now voting Republican. (2 Viewers)

[Paul]

The middle makes the difference once again. Why?

McAuliffe made an error with the school issue to appease the CRT crowd. A costly strategic error.

Terry McAuliffe’s War on Parents | National Review

Parents know the most about their kids, care the most about their kids, and should have a say in their education.

www.nationalreview.com

On another note CNN described Michelle Wu a moderate as the first woman of color to be mayor. The media recruiting minorities.

 

[Paul]

You're not translating to English correctly, Paul. It's input, not inout. A native English speaker would never make that mistake.

Seriously though you said McAuliffe was progressive.

I don't think AOC is the litmus test on if you are a progressive. You can be to the right of AOC and still be called a progressive. She ran on rent control, and a green new deal.

Do you realize that discovering a typo does not make your argument any better or worse?

Wu has owned a business and hence she probably has a better grasp on real life issues and a free market economy that the progressive wing of the Democrats. I fully realized she proposed woke stuff such as free subway rides and rent control to get elected. These days Democrats have to offer free stuff to their base.

 

[Optimus Prime]

McAuliffe's comment was a bad comment, I knew it as soon as I heard it but to me it was similar to Obama's "You didn't build that" comment

A comment intentionally taken out of context to drive outrage

How many of these angry parents could name 3 books that was on their kid's reading list? Not just this year, but any year? Or what they were learning in History class?

Go to school, get good grades was the extent of many parents involvement. (and according to Paul many parents don't even care about the good grades)

But now these parents are so concerned about the curriculum? Not buying it

And the mother who was so upset about her kid reading Beloved? it was an AP class. The "A" stands for advanced

And for all the outrage mileage Youngkin got out of the Beloved 'scandal' his own kid read it without a single peep from him

 

[J-DONK]

Do you realize that discovering a typo does not make your argument any better or worse?

It was obviously a joke. The implication was you work at a foreign troll farm.

Wu has owned a business and hence she probably has a better grasp on real life issues and a free market economy that the progressive wing of the Democrats. I fully realized she proposed woke stuff such as free subway rides and rent control to get elected. These days Democrats have to offer free stuff to their base.

Wu is a progressive. Her mentor is Elizabeth Warren. Keep trying dude.

I won't argue this. It's ridiculous. You're wrong, and you know it. You knowingly tried to create a fake narrative. All because you're a moderate free-thinker with no agenda.

 

[Paul]

It was obviously a joke. The implication was you work at a foreign troll farm.

Ok, no big deal.

Wu is a progressive. Her mentor is Elizabeth Warren. Keep trying dude.

I won't argue this. It's ridiculous. You're wrong, and you know it. You knowingly tried to create a fake narrative. All because you're a moderate free-thinker with no agenda.

I do not deny she is to the left of center, but I sincerely hope she is cautious. Hopefully she is just pandering to the left wingers. One of my daughters makes a good living and lives in Cambridge because Boston is too pricey. When in Boston I see privileged college kids every where. There are more than 65 colleges in Boston and is likely the largest college town in the nation. When I visit I feel safe and it seems like a well run city. The T is very old and is way cheaper than the one we are here in Washington DC. I hope Wu does not turn Boston into another Seattle or San Francisco with excessive left wing measures.

Elizabeth Warren is a caricature and I sort of like her. This idea that she is part Indian is goofy. I do not think she did this to get accepted into better positions. Perhaps she suffered from white guilt.

 

[superchuck500]

Some analysis on the Virginia governor voting - thread:

 

[Farb]

Well, obviously, white supremacy is alive well in the minority communities in Virginia. That is the only possible reason why the progressives managed to lose an entire state.

https://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-guest-winsome-sears-black-131046950.html

“The problem is, here, they want white supremacy by ventriloquist effect,” he explained. “There is a black mouth moving but a white idea running on the runway of the tongue of a figure who justifies and legitimates the white supremacist practices.”

 

[Farb]

Some analysis on the Virginia governor voting - thread:

Those pesky white nationalists and nazis

 

[superchuck500]

So Tucker was right, there was attempted voter fraud in Fairfax County:

 

[V Chip]

He is a liberal college professor who has noted that the colleges are becoming monocultural and do not allow different points of views.
Jonathan Haidt is well known author, scholar, and a classic liberal.

That's funny, Haidt describes himself as a political centrist. If one self-described centrist describes another self-described centrist as a "liberal," what does that tell you about the former?

 

[Saintman2884]

McAuliffe's comment was a bad comment, I knew it as soon as I heard it but to me it was similar to Obama's "You didn't build that" comment

A comment intentionally taken out of context to drive outrage

How many of these angry parents could name 3 books that was on their kid's reading list? Not just this year, but any year? Or what they were learning in History class?

Go to school, get good grades was the extent of many parents involvement. (and according to Paul many parents don't even care about the good grades)

But now these parents are so concerned about the curriculum? Not buying it

And the mother who was so upset about her kid reading Beloved? it was an AP class. The "A" stands for advanced

And for all the outrage mileage Youngkin got out of the Beloved 'scandal' his own kid read it without a single peep from him

It came across as elitist, condescending and playing into the perceived liberal stereotypes thats always been thrown at them like "We know what's best for you in most aspects of your life, whether its business, raising their children, how they think, talk, express themselves or in contrast to how supposedly progressives like to flaunt their Ivy League degrees at everyone else". THOSE KINDS of stereotypes about arrogant, out-of-touch, intellectually snobbish liberals that tend to be cherry-picked, and often recycled as tropes. It's not that really that some people are attacking intellectualism, or their anti-intellectual, its just the extremely egotistical, antagonistic ones who use their high IQs to become bullies, jerks, or prigs to elevate something lacking in their own-already low integrity, or self-image.

Out of context? No, my recollection sees it as McAucliffe knew what he meant it when he said it, even doubled down on it, until a major Democratic operative, figuratively and metaphorically slapped him for coming across as insensitive, stupid, and callous for saying the state or federal government could do a better job tending of those kids lives then their absentee, aloof parents and not just when it came to education.

As I've said before, in politics, like wartime, its never wise to hand over your sword to the enemy thinking they won't use it against you. McAuliffe's was figuratively giving Youngkin's campaign his long, sharpest pocket knife, and taunting them to "Do their worst" to him and their worst was extremely harmful and very effective.

In the days and weeks leading up to a big NCAAF or NFL regular-season game, it's very stupid (or foolish) for a top or mid-tier player to make over-confident, arrogant, or dumb statements or generalizations about what he or his team will do their opponents on Saturday/Sunday. Don't give "bulletin-board" free motivational, rallying cry slogans for the opposing side to use against you.

 

[Paul]

That's funny, Haidt describes himself as a political centrist. If one self-described centrist describes another self-described centrist as a "liberal," what does that tell you about the former?

A true old fashion liberal is one that allows both sides to be heard. These days liberals are intolerant SJWs.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

A true old fashion liberal is one that allows both sides to be heard. These days liberals are intolerant SJWs.

Do you think all views are worthy of being heard or are there a few we as a society can safely shut down?

 

[Paul]

Do you think all views are worthy of being heard or are there a few we as a society can safely shut down?

All views should be heard. Even the hateful views.

 

[Saintman2884]

Do you think all views are worthy of being heard or are there a few we as a society can safely shut down?

I'm glad you said just a few things. That's a more baseline "common sense" type of starting point me and you can agree on that people, politicians or groups spouting bigotry, promoting division, racism, hatred or discrimination towards minorities, mentally/physically disabled is completely off-limits and shouldn't be tolerated.

 

[Saintman2884]

All views should be heard. Even the hateful views.

You can't stop some or even a few people who are already politically or socially fringe to seek out and hear hateful, bigoted views but we, as a society, should try to avoid or prevent more slicker, intelligent, craftier demogagoes who intellectualize their hatred or bigotry, into seemingly "reasonable" respectable-sounding cliches, slogans or sayings which are cleverly disguised to some but noticeable to others who recognize his real intent. Its what we call "dog whistles" in political terminology.

Being from Latin America, you hear similar rhetoric comparable to this in "caudillos", mesmerizing, charismatic military or authoritarian leaders who are good with words, or evoking left-or-right wing nationalist sentiments against evil old US imperialism, past acts of intervention, potential or possible acts of future interventions as a potent political scare tactic, or fear-mongering to stay and remain in power. Hugo Chavez stayed in power until his death in 2013 using these very same tactics and Venezuela ever since then, has paid the steep political and economic price due to economic over-reliance on a single marketable product like oil(Dutch disease). Manuel Noriega's Panama back all throughout the 1980's was another prime example.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

All views should be heard. Even the hateful views.

Why do hateful views deserve to be spread?

 

[MT15]

All views should be heard. Even the hateful views.

This is what 1A says. It’s a hard standard but we should abide by it. What is happening now, though, is different. Hateful views are being promoted. That should never happen.

If someone wants to stand on the street corner and preach fascism, then go ahead. But FB and YouTube should never be recommending their views, and Google shouldn’t be suggesting them either.

 

[Paul]

This is what 1A says. It’s a hard standard but we should abide by it. What is happening now, though, is different. Hateful views are being promoted. That should never happen.

If someone wants to stand on the street corner and preach fascism, then go ahead. But FB and YouTube should never be recommending their views, and Google shouldn’t be suggesting them either.

America has the best free speech. A person has the freedom to say "whatever" even it the words are hurtful to others.

The online systems use algorithms to block hateful speech, but sometimes it makes errors. The main issue with selecting and blocking offensive speech is the creation of a slippery slope. At some point those in power will add more words that are unacceptable since the definition of "offensive" will be up to whomever feels offended. For example, someone may decide the word "lame" is offensive.