Media Tracker (3 Viewers)

[SaintForLife]

I figured we needed a thread specifically about the media.

There was a very big correction recently by the Washington Post.


That story was supposedly "independently confirmed" by CNN, NBC News, USA Today, ABC News, & PBS News Hour. How could they all have gotten the quote wrong if they actually independently confirmed the story?






Why do all the errors always go in one political direction and not closer to 50/50?

 

[MT15]

None that are actually written into law?

 

[SFIDC3]

Sounds like there are a lot of scared folks in denial at Fox. I get it, if Trump is convicted and goes to jail then what in the world are the going to talk about?

 

[MT15]

Reminder: while WSJ is pretty good at news, its editorial board has gone to crap. Here is a rebuttal of their recent editorial:





I left off his first and last tweet in the thread.

 

[MT15]

She’s usually not such an idiot, is she?

 

[MT15]

I didn’t realize that NewsMax was also being sued. Good!

 

[MT15]

I’m getting the impression that Watters just isn’t very bright, and his game plan is to just go on the air and talk out of his arse:

 

[MT15]

Forgot about her

 

[MT15]

The NYT does a really crappy job with framing sometimes. The idea that it favors democrats is just moronic.

 

[UriUT]

The NYT does a really crappy job with framing sometimes. The idea that it favors democrats is just moronic.

Here's the threadreader link if anyone's interested. By the way, Maggie's name is on it. Not surprised. Disappointed that Schmidt did that.

Thread by @JamesFallows on Thread Reader App

@JamesFallows: Framing, as always, is in the details. Look which word is in quotes ["we're keeping our distance from this"] in the subhead: Lies. Look which term is presented straight ["no need to question or caveat...…

threadreaderapp.com

That's the "playing the refs" trick that the right and Trump has been using to control the public conversation. By calling the MSM bias or liberal, they paint the MSM into a defensive posture. In order to run from the labels, the MSM go out of their way to be fair, while inadvertently tilting the conversation to whatever direction the right wants it to go. Same with the weaponizing the DOJ/Government. It wasn't till the Jan 6th committee and Trump withholding government secrets become public did the DOJ moved. To appear as fair as possible, the investigations didn't start with urgency till SC Smith was appointed. Seriously, 2 years since Jan 6th and Smith was appointed less than a year ago. Meanwhile, the right doesn't have the same shame or fear of any hypocrisy. Say whatever they want. People will forget in time. But immediately, the anger's there and that lasts a lot longer.

This also goes back to Reagan's conservatism linking liberal as a negative connotation.

 

[MT15]

Basic Geography eludes them

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Basic Geography eludes them

Maybe he's heading to Arizona by way of the Bellagio.

 

[MT15]

Kayleigh just cannot help herself, lol

 

[DaveXA]

Kayleigh just cannot help herself, lol

Well, when you make lying your arse off a habit, you're eventually gonna get egg on your face at some point.

 

[Taurus]

Forgot about her

That's how they do. It's Trump 101. Spew negative, emotionally-laden words and attach them to your enemies. Coherence, truth, logic, none of that is relevant at all.

 

[UriUT]

That's how they do. It's Trump 101. Spew negative, emotionally-laden words and attach them to your enemies. Coherence, truth, logic, none of that is relevant at all.

It's all part of the plan to dismantle any opposing views towards them.

At times, the drumbeat of false assertions during Trump's candidacy and presidency perplexed the American press and public. So did Trump's invocation of baseless conspiracy theories, which invariably situated him as a persecuted victim of a "deep state." But Ben-Ghiat said in her studies of authoritarian leaders such as Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, Silvio Berlusconi and Jair Bolsonaro, there was precedent for this.

"Meaning, they propose themselves as all-powerful, as the only solution possible to the nation's ills. 'I alone can fix it.' "

"The use of lies takes place in a larger effort to turn the public against alternate sources of authority," she said. Those sources might include independent courts, legislative bodies and law enforcement agencies. Or — it may be the fourth estate.

"If you're looking to see if somebody's going to be a strongman, what you find is even when they start campaigning, they immediately start trying to turn the public against the press, saying [the press is] biased and that they are the truth teller against the establishment," said Ben-Ghiat. As that leader's supporters increasingly come to believe that he is the only source of truth, she said, they will be primed to believe his claims of a stolen election.

 

[Taurus]

It's all part of the plan to dismantle any opposing views towards them.

That said, it's not like the media or other public institutions have made it difficult or unappetizing to look for an alternate source of truth or a fairer deal.

The Rust Belt and Appalachia did get screwed over.
Media corporations do favor sensationalism over fact.

Bernie Sanders caught fire precisely because of this. In many ways his economic message was the same as Trump's. "You're getting screwed over, we all know it, but I'm the only one who'll do something about it."

Of course, Cheato had no intention of following through. We'll never know if Bernie did or not.

I just hope there's a charismatic Democrat out there with Bernie's philosophy.

I'm confident that Biden will curbstomp Cheato next year. It's the '28 election I'm concerned about.

The GOP is going to do nothing but get more and more deranged, we need someone who can win against whatever abomination slouches out of those primaries toward the White House.

 

[UriUT]

That said, it's not like the media or other public institutions have made it difficult or unappetizing to look for an alternate source of truth or a fairer deal.

The Rust Belt and Appalachia did get screwed over.
Media corporations do favor sensationalism over fact.

Bernie Sanders caught fire precisely because of this. In many ways his economic message was the same as Trump's. "You're getting screwed over, we all know it, but I'm the only one who'll do something about it."

Of course, Cheato had no intention of following through. We'll never know if Bernie did or not.

I just hope there's a charismatic Democrat out there with Bernie's philosophy.

I'm confident that Biden will curbstomp Cheato next year. It's the '28 election I'm concerned about.

The GOP is going to do nothing but get more and more deranged, we need someone who can win against whatever abomination slouches out of those primaries toward the White House.

Right, the resentment was there prior to 2016. I think there's a frontline doc on the 2008 crash that linked the discontent to the Trump election. As for the parts of the industrial regions getting left behind...that is due to globalization...our economy changing more to a service economy. I believe Hillary addressed this failure as a post mortem, stating that the government didn't do a good job of providing assistance during the transition phase. That left many discontent as they felt left behind. For example, a coal miner didn't get education in maintenance of wind turbine. You know the crazy thing is: that silly debate about coal miners losing their job due to the energy transition. I remember reading a few years back how WV has a robust renewable energy sector, I think more workers are employed in it than coal mining.

This is probably not the article I read then.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90920575/i-grew-up-in-west-virginia-coal-country-its-time-for-my-home-state-to-start-leading-on-clean-energy

That’s despite the fact that only about 11,000 people in West Virginia work in coal while nearly 18,000 people work in cleantech jobs, a 6% increase from 2021.

Anyway, you are right, the resentment was there. The MSM hasn't been doing a good job of journalism. But, Trump preemptively attacking them sows that distrust even if they report the truth. We are again seeing this.

Oh that frontline doc needs to be mentioned. I tried to find where the link to 2016 but it's just too long to search now. here it is:

 

[MT15]

This is just crazy talk.