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    I figured we needed a thread specifically about the media.

    There was a very big correction recently by the Washington Post.


    That story was supposedly "independently confirmed" by CNN, NBC News, USA Today, ABC News, & PBS News Hour. How could they all have gotten the quote wrong if they actually independently confirmed the story?






    Why do all the errors always go in one political direction and not closer to 50/50?
     
    DJ1BigTymer said:
    Ok, tell me more about these congressional conservatives you support that are not MAGA extremist. Give me some names, otherwise...
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    Otherwise what? You gonna modify my posts to make it appear I said something I didn’t say? How many other things have you “fixed” for people?

    If you have to lie to make your point, you have no point.
     
    TampaJoe said:
    I support conservatives. To you they are all MAGA.
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    You need to quit pretending you know what I think. If you may have noticed I refer to MAGA separately most of the time in deference to Dave and a couple others on here that are true conservatives.

    Anybody, like you, who supports what Trump is doing with his DOGE, executive orders getting rid of birthright citizenship and threatening Panama to just name a few, aren’t truly conservative. Not in the sense of it that I grew up with. Due process and the Constitution mean nothing to Trump or Musk and when you defend them, you prove they mean nothing to you either. So when I refer to you or Sendai I usually use quotes - because you have both betrayed conservatism IMO.
     
    Wow. Think this just sealed the deal to cancel my subscription



    FULL TEXT:

    I shared this note with the Washington Post team this morning:I’m writing to let you know about a change coming to our opinion pages. We are going to be writing every day in support and defense of two pillars: personal liberties and free markets.

    We’ll cover other topics too of course, but viewpoints opposing those pillars will be left to be published by others.

    There was a time when a newspaper, especially one that was a local monopoly, might have seen it as a service to bring to the reader’s doorstep every morning a broad-based opinion section that sought to cover all views.

    Today, the internet does that job. I am of America and for America, and proud to be so. Our country did not get here by being typical. And a big part of America’s success has been freedom in the economic realm and everywhere else.

    Freedom is ethical — it minimizes coercion — and practical — it drives creativity, invention, and prosperity. I offered David Shipley, whom I greatly admire, the opportunity to lead this new chapter. I suggested to him that if the answer wasn’t “hell yes,” then it had to be “no.” After careful consideration, David decided to step away.

    This is a significant shift, it won’t be easy, and it will require 100% commitment — I respect his decision.

    We’ll be searching for a new Opinion Editor to own this new direction. I’m confident that free markets and personal liberties are right for America. I also believe these viewpoints are underserved in the current market of ideas and news opinion. I’m excited for us together to fill that void.




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    Massive encroachment by Jeff Bezos into The Washington Post’s opinion section today - makes clear dissenting views will not be published or tolerated there

    I still have not felt encroachment on my journalism on the news side of coverage, but if Bezos tries interfering with the news side I will be quitting immediately and letting you know


     
    Optimus Prime said:
    "I also believe these viewpoints are underserved in the current market of ideas and news opinion. I’m excited for us together to fill that void."
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    Oh, sure, there's no-one out there in the "market of ideas and news opinion" advocating for *checks notes* "personal liberties and free markets".

    Thing is, you can tell he knows his stance on this is unjustified by the fact that he has to try and prop it up with something so very untrue.
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Wow. Think this just sealed the deal to cancel my subscription



    FULL TEXT:

    I shared this note with the Washington Post team this morning:I’m writing to let you know about a change coming to our opinion pages. We are going to be writing every day in support and defense of two pillars: personal liberties and free markets.

    We’ll cover other topics too of course, but viewpoints opposing those pillars will be left to be published by others.

    There was a time when a newspaper, especially one that was a local monopoly, might have seen it as a service to bring to the reader’s doorstep every morning a broad-based opinion section that sought to cover all views.

    Today, the internet does that job. I am of America and for America, and proud to be so. Our country did not get here by being typical. And a big part of America’s success has been freedom in the economic realm and everywhere else.

    Freedom is ethical — it minimizes coercion — and practical — it drives creativity, invention, and prosperity. I offered David Shipley, whom I greatly admire, the opportunity to lead this new chapter. I suggested to him that if the answer wasn’t “hell yes,” then it had to be “no.” After careful consideration, David decided to step away.

    This is a significant shift, it won’t be easy, and it will require 100% commitment — I respect his decision.

    We’ll be searching for a new Opinion Editor to own this new direction. I’m confident that free markets and personal liberties are right for America. I also believe these viewpoints are underserved in the current market of ideas and news opinion. I’m excited for us together to fill that void.




    FULL TEXT:

    Massive encroachment by Jeff Bezos into The Washington Post’s opinion section today - makes clear dissenting views will not be published or tolerated there

    I still have not felt encroachment on my journalism on the news side of coverage, but if Bezos tries interfering with the news side I will be quitting immediately and letting you know


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    Personal liberters for who? Billionaires? Because I'm guessing it's not going to be for trans people, gays or minorities.

    Free Markets for who? Billionaires? I guess that means they can't write about regulations that protect average Americans.

    So much bullshirt coming from these billionaires trying act all high and mighty lecturing all of us. Definitely time for some heads to roll!
     
    coldseat said:
    Personal liberters for who? Billionaires? Because I'm guessing it's not going to be for trans people, gays or minorities.

    Free Markets for who? Billionaires? I guess that means they can't write about regulations that protect average Americans.

    So much bullshirt coming from these billionaires trying act all high and mighty lecturing all of us. Definitely time for some heads to roll!
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    Let them pay the price. We have the freedom to choose where we spend our money. I canceled my Washington Post subscription when Bezos vetoed the paper’s endorsement of Harris, and I haven’t spent a dime on Amazon since.
     
    The brutal shake-up at MSNBC, the liberal news channel that has been been at the forefront of scrutinizing Donald Trump and his politics, could lead to the loss of progressive voices and stories affecting people of color, media experts said.

    All of this arrives at a time when the Trump administration is actively attacking the media.

    MSNBC announced on Monday that the progressive host Joy Reid was being fired from her weeknight show, with Alex Wagner also losing her prime-time nightly broadcast. Katie Phang and Jonathan Capehart also lost their solo weekend shows, along with Ayman Mohyeldin, who has been a fierce critic of Israel’s bombing of Gaza. A “bloodbath of non-white anchors”, as the Daily Beast termed it, as the move was widely criticized, including on MSNBC.


    “Indefensible,” was the verdict of Rachel Maddow, the channel’s highest-profile host, as she lambasted the network live on her show on Monday. “I think it is a bad mistake to let [Reid] walk out the door. It is also unnerving to see that on a network where we’ve got two non-white hosts in prime time, both of our non-white hosts in prime time are losing their shows, as is Katie Phang on the weekend.”

    Other criticism was even more strident. Elie Mystal, justice correspondent at the Nation, wrote on Twitter/X: “I owe the television part of my career to Joy Reid, as do so many other Black voices y’all never would have heard of if not for her. And *that’s* why she’s gone. They can treat black folks as interchangeable, but everybody Black knows that Joy was indispensable.”

    Mehdi Hasan, a progressive journalist and Guardian columnist whose MSNBC show was canceled in 2023, wrote: “It’s a big loss for MSNBC viewers as [Reid] did talk about issues – racism, fascism, Gaza – that other hosts have avoided. And I’m also sad to see my brilliant friend Ayman lose his unique show, too.”

    Phang and Wagner will remain with the network, Phang becoming a legal correspondent and Wagner a political analyst, and Capehart and Mohyeldin will become co-hosts on other programs. But with non-white journalists underrepresented in the media, the loss of those voices from prime-time shows and at the helm of their own programs represents a blow for those concerned about diversity.

    “Joy Reid represents another loss of amplifying Black and brown voices who will report news on stories that oftentimes go under the radar or underreported by mainstream journalists,” said Emmitt Riley, a professor of politics and African and African American studies at the University of the South and the president of the National Conference of Black Political Scientists.

    “When we think about what diversity truly means, it means that we bring a wide variety of perspectives to the table. And certainly a person’s life experiences with discrimination, their life experiences in terms of where they occupy certain positions of power or lack thereof, informs what stories they decide to amplify. And so we saw Joy covering a number of different stories that I think will go under the radar now.”……..

    www.theguardian.com

    Shake-up for Trump era gives liberal MSNBC a whiter, more centrist look

    A new lineup at the cable news channel could lead to a loss of progressive voices and stories affecting people of color
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Wow. Think this just sealed the deal to cancel my subscription



    FULL TEXT:

    I shared this note with the Washington Post team this morning:I’m writing to let you know about a change coming to our opinion pages. We are going to be writing every day in support and defense of two pillars: personal liberties and free markets.

    We’ll cover other topics too of course, but viewpoints opposing those pillars will be left to be published by others.

    There was a time when a newspaper, especially one that was a local monopoly, might have seen it as a service to bring to the reader’s doorstep every morning a broad-based opinion section that sought to cover all views.

    Today, the internet does that job. I am of America and for America, and proud to be so. Our country did not get here by being typical. And a big part of America’s success has been freedom in the economic realm and everywhere else.

    Freedom is ethical — it minimizes coercion — and practical — it drives creativity, invention, and prosperity. I offered David Shipley, whom I greatly admire, the opportunity to lead this new chapter. I suggested to him that if the answer wasn’t “hell yes,” then it had to be “no.” After careful consideration, David decided to step away.

    This is a significant shift, it won’t be easy, and it will require 100% commitment — I respect his decision.

    We’ll be searching for a new Opinion Editor to own this new direction. I’m confident that free markets and personal liberties are right for America. I also believe these viewpoints are underserved in the current market of ideas and news opinion. I’m excited for us together to fill that void.




    FULL TEXT:

    Massive encroachment by Jeff Bezos into The Washington Post’s opinion section today - makes clear dissenting views will not be published or tolerated there

    I still have not felt encroachment on my journalism on the news side of coverage, but if Bezos tries interfering with the news side I will be quitting immediately and letting you know


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    My subscription comes up for renewal at the end of March which I will not be doing
     
    It's wild how Politico has gone all in for Trump.

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    superchuck500 said:
    It's wild how Politico has gone all in for Trump.

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    Wild but not unexpected.

    This is how Putin destroyed independent media after a satirical program mocked him.

    www.wilsoncenter.org

    How The Media Became One of Putin's Most Powerful Weapons

    "As a former KGB officer and head of the KGB’s successor agency, the FSB, Putin knows the value of information. His concept of the media, however, is a far cry from the First Amendment. For him, it’s a simple transactional equation: Whoever owns the media controls what it says," writes Jill...
    www.wilsoncenter.org www.wilsoncenter.org
    But there’s also a bloodless, modern approach: apply pressure, and wait. Pass laws that constrict the space available for independent media. Set legal traps, citing anti-terrorist legislation. Send the tax police to carry out endless inspections of a recalcitrant broadcaster or their business associates, denying that political views have anything to do with the investigation. Don’t kill them, just maim them. Try to squeeze them into irrelevance.
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    Similarly in Hungary.

    gijn.org

    Lessons Learned from Witnessing Viktor Orban’s Crackdown on the Free Press

    Andras Petho, co-founder of the investigative news outlet Direkt36, offers lessons learned from witnessing first-hand the press crackdown of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
    gijn.org gijn.org

    Thanks to our dedicated membership community and the generosity of some international foundations, Direkt36 is now one of the very few outlets in Hungary that are not under the government’s influence and is also independent from other political or business interests. At the same time, we also became targets of regular attacks from the government and its allies. For example, pro-government propaganda outlets often claim, falsely, that we are foreign agents. Two of our reporters were even surveilled with the spyware known as Pegasus, a cyberweapon used by the Hungarian government.
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