Joe Biden Accused of Sexual Assualt (1 Viewer)

[Beach Friends]

The video is NSFW due to language and the graphic description of Joe Biden's alleged conduct.

 

[Humperdoo]

Wow, if everything I read in that piece is accurate, then Tara Reade has no credibility at all. I support investigating, but based on that article, this story doesn't deserve any air time at all.

I haven’t read it yet, but it’s always a slippery slope for sure. Even the allegations can damage a person’s reputation beyond repair. I wish that if able to be proven false, the accusers would be punished with life in prison. I know that’s harsh but so is having your life forever altered by false accusations.

 

[wardorican]

A former federal prosecutor has given his thoughts on the allegations. This is pretty much how I feel about the whole thing. And as much as I did not want Kavanaugh to be placed on the SCOTUS, I maintained this same belief about Ford's accusations against him. Blindly believing an accusation just because is very dangerous territory that can destroy the reputation of the accused. That's just wrong on all accounts.

Why I'm skeptical about Reade's sexual assault claim against Biden: Ex-prosecutor

If we must blindly accept every allegation of sexual assault, the #MeToo movement is just a hit squad. And it's too important to be no more than that.

www.usatoday.com

Wow, that lays out a lot of reasons to not believe her. Sorta seems like a hit job, because she started joining Team Sanders.

►Implausible explanation for changing story. When Reade went public with her sexual assault allegation in March, she said she wanted to do it in an interview with The Union newspaper in California last April. She said the reporter’s tone made her feel uncomfortable and "I just really got shut down” and didn't tell the whole story.

It is hard to believe a reporter would discourage this kind of scoop. Regardless, it's also hard to accept that it took Reade 12 months to find another reporter eager to break that bombshell story. This unlikely explanation damages her credibility.

People who contradict Reade’s claim. After the alleged assault, Reade said she complained about Biden's harassment to Marianne Baker, Biden’s executive assistant, as well as to top aides Dennis Toner and Ted Kaufman. All three Biden staffers recently told The New York Times that she made no complaint to them.

And they did not offer the standard, noncommittal “I don’t remember any such complaint.” The denials were firm. “She did not come to me. If she had, I would have remembered her,” Kaufman said. Toner made a similar statement. And from Baker: “I never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct (by Biden), period." Baker said such a complaint, had Reade made it, "would have left a searing impression on me as a woman professional, and as a manager.”


►Missing formal complaint. Reade told The Times she filed a written complaint against Biden with the Senate personnel office. But The Times could not find any complaint. When The Times asked Reade for a copy of the complaint, she said she did not have it. Yet she maintained and provided a copy of her 1993 Senate employment records.

It is odd that Reade kept a copy of her employment records but did not keep a copy of a complaint documenting criminal conduct by a man whose improprieties changed “the trajectory” of her life. It’s equally odd The Times was unable to find a copy of the alleged Senate complaint.

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►Compliments for Biden. In the 1990s, Biden worked to pass the Violence Against Women Act. In 2017, on multiple occasions, Reade retweeted or “liked” praise for Biden and his work combating sexual assault. In the same year, Reade tweeted other compliments of Biden, including: “My old boss speaks truth. Listen.” It is bizarre that Reade would publicly laud Biden for combating the very thing she would later accuse him of doing to her.

►Rejecting Biden, embracing Sanders. By this January, Reade was all in for presidential candidate Bernie Sanders. Her unwavering support was accompanied by an unbridled attack on Biden. In an article on Medium, Reade referred to Biden as “the blue version of Trump.” Reade also pushed a Sanders/Elizabeth Warren ticket, while complaining that the Democratic National Committee was trying to “shove” Biden “down Democrat voters throats.”

Despite her effusive 2017 praise for Biden’s efforts on behalf of women, after pledging her support to Sanders, Reade turned on Biden and contradicted all she said before. She claimed that her decision to publicly accuse Biden of inappropriately touching her was due to “the hypocrisy that Biden is supposed to be the champion of women’s rights.”

 

[Humperdoo]

Tara Reade says Senate personnel complaint would prove Biden's former staff 'lied' to press

Tara Reade suggested Thursday that the complaint she filed to the Senate personnel office almost 30 years ago would prove that top staff for her former boss Joe Biden "lied" to reporters about their recollection of her claims.

www.foxnews.com

It continues. Point counterpoint. There’s always 3 sides to a story, yours mine and the truth that lies somewhere in the middle.

I don’t doubt for a minute that former Biden staffers would lie, just as Trump staffers would.

 

[Humperdoo]

I applaud Chris for this. MSNBC makes both Fox and CNN look like reputable unbiased news sources, which they are not, imo. I’m very surprised MSNBC covered this.

Ex-Hillary adviser on #FireChrisHayes push: 'This level of rape apology from Dems is APPALLING'

Peter Daou, a former top adviser to Hillary Clinton, ripped some Democrats as "rape apologists" for attacking MSNBC host Chris Hayes over his decision to cover Tara Reade's sexual assault allegations against former Vice President Joe Biden.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Humperdoo]

Biden denies sexual assault allegation, in his first comments on Tara Reade's claims

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Friday denied allegations of sexual assault leveled against him by former Senate staffer Tara Reade, personally addressing the claims for the first time more than a month after she went public with the accusations.

www.foxnews.com

 

[wardorican]

Tara Reade says Senate personnel complaint would prove Biden's former staff 'lied' to press

Tara Reade suggested Thursday that the complaint she filed to the Senate personnel office almost 30 years ago would prove that top staff for her former boss Joe Biden "lied" to reporters about their recollection of her claims.

www.foxnews.com

It continues. Point counterpoint. There’s always 3 sides to a story, yours mine and the truth that lies somewhere in the middle.

I don’t doubt for a minute that former Biden staffers would lie, just as Trump staffers would.

That isnt really a strong counterpoint. All it says is that his sealed Senate records may have the complaint document. If they don't have it, then what? She is a liar or they were bad record keepers?

 

[samiam5211]

I will watch to hear the accuser tell her side of the story, but Joe seems to be handling as you would expect him to if he didn’t do it.

I think Joe said some things in the past that could be used to paint him as racist today. Limiting that is the reason I believe he doesn’t want the documents he gave to the university released right now.

 

[Humperdoo]

That isnt really a strong counterpoint. All it says is that his sealed Senate records may have the complaint document. If they don't have it, then what? She is a liar or they were bad record keepers?

Oh I wasn’t insinuating it was a strong counter. Will be intriguing to see how it all plays out.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

That isnt really a strong counterpoint. All it says is that his sealed Senate records may have the complaint document. If they don't have it, then what? She is a liar or they were bad record keepers?

Why would they keep it? I thought an article said his actual personnel file was in the National Archives. If the complaint existed it would have to be there.

 

[BIG E]

 

[Beach Friends]

Joe seems to be handling as you would expect him to if he didn’t do it.

I thought we learned during the Kavanaugh fiasco that innocent people were supposed to demand that the FBI investigate them. Maybe @MT15 can confirm, she kept up with that stuff pretty closely.

 

[samiam5211]

I thought we learned during the Kavanaugh fiasco that innocent people were supposed to demand that the FBI investigate them. Maybe @MT15 can confirm, she kept up with that stuff pretty closely.

Biden said the claims against him should be investigated.

Do you believe that someone who has sexually assaulted women should be president?

 

[Humperdoo]

Biden said the claims against him should be investigated.

Do you believe that someone who has sexually assaulted women should be president?

I don’t. Sadly tho I’d bet ya almost all that have been POTUS have a terrible blemish or three in their past.

Indiscretions like adultery sexual assault, pandering to lobbyists etc...

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I don’t. Sadly tho I’d bet ya almost all that have been POTUS have a terrible blemish or three in their past.

Indiscretions like adultery sexual assault, pandering to lobbyists etc...

Maybe I am remembering wrong, but didn't you say you were going to vote for Trump?

 

[Humperdoo]

Maybe I am remembering wrong, but didn't you say you were going to vote for Trump?

Didn’t I just say that they all have terrible things in their closets? And that I vote for what I view as the least of all evils?

And yes, I will be voting for Trump.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Didn’t I just say that they all have terrible things in their closets? And that I vote for what I view as the least of all evils?

And yes, I will be voting for Trump.

Even though you think he doesn't deserve to be president.

 

[Humperdoo]

Even though you think he doesn't deserve to be president.

I think none of the current crop deserves to be POTUS. I think Trump is by far the best choice right now.

 

[Beach Friends]

Biden said the claims against him should be investigated.

Do you believe that someone who has sexually assaulted women should be president?

Did he? What procedure did he suggest? I am sure he has some ideas about that since his accuser sat down for multiple interviews a month ago.

And BTW, you are asking me that question when you just said that you would vote for Biden even if he molested children on a daily basis. (No qualification in your hypothetical about being merely accused, but he actually molested kids).

So, where do you draw the line for when sexual assault becomes unacceptable? When the victims reach the age of consent?