Israel vs Hamas (1 Viewer)

[GrandAdmiral]

Looks like the fight is on with Israeli soldiers and civilians amongst the dead already. Question becomes, how long before we get dragged into this?

Netanyahu says Israel is ‘at war’ after Hamas launches surprise attack, takes hostages | CNN

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared that the country was “at war” on Saturday, after Palestinian militants in Gaza fired a deadly barrage of rockets and sent gunmen into Israeli territory in a major escalation of the long running conflict between the two sides.

www.cnn.com

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[Lapaz]

Israel may have the weapons to attack Rafa, but their supplies might get exhausted. It certainly is the moral thing to do to stop supplying offensive weapons to Israel. Israel has done enough damage to Gaza and killed enough civilians with their approach to this war. Israel can continue to root out Hamas without the continued massacre. They need to be more surgical in their attacks. The 2000lb bomb is essentially a weapon of mass destruction. Hamas isn't an urgent threat, so Israel can take more time to root them out. Massacring civilians is only going to create more radicals.

 

[LA - L.A.]

It's not just Netanyahu, the ruling Israeli political parties and the Israeli military. They are in power, because some of the citizens if Israel want Israeli leadership to do what they are doing.

The United Nations’ agency for Palestinian refugees will shutter its East Jerusalem headquarters after the compound was set on fire by “Israeli extremists” while staff were inside, its chief said Thursday.

In a statement on social platform X, UNRWA Commissioner-General Philippe Lazzarini said the arson attack was the latest in a series of threats, harassment and violent incidents perpetrated by Israelis against the agency’s staff over the past two months.

“This evening, Israeli residents set fire twice to the perimeter of the UNRWA Headquarters in occupied East Jerusalem. This took place while UNRWA and other UN Agencies’ staff were on the compound,” Lazzarini said.

UNRWA to close East Jerusalem headquarters after arson attack by ‘Israeli extremists’ | CNN

The United Nations’ agency for Palestinian refugees will shutter its East Jerusalem headquarters after the compound was set on fire by “Israeli extremists” while staff were inside, its chief said Thursday.

www.cnn.com

 

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"We thought the best way to sustainably deescalate the situation was to actually talk with our students," Northwestern President Michael Schill told WBUR's Here and Now. "We have a good sustainable agreement which provides a number of things that the students wanted and that we wanted to do."

 

[GrandAdmiral]

"We thought the best way to sustainably deescalate the situation was to actually talk with our students," Northwestern President Michael Schill told WBUR's Here and Now. "We have a good sustainable agreement which provides a number of things that the students wanted and that we wanted to do."

Compromise? Get outta here.../sarcasm

 

[GrandAdmiral]

No shirt, Sherlock...

Biden admin says it’s ‘reasonable to assess’ Israel used American weapons in Gaza in ways ‘inconsistent’ with international law | CNN Politics

The Biden administration said Friday that it is “reasonable to assess” that US weapons have been used by Israeli forces in Gaza in ways that are “inconsistent” with international humanitarian law but stopped short of officially saying Israel violated the law.

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[Heathen]

They might be on to something

 

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Police arrest dozens as they break up pro-Palestinian protests at several US universities

Police have made dozens of arrests as pro-Palestinian protest encampments were dismantled at the University of Pennsylvania, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the University of Arizona.

apnews.com

The Associated Press has recorded at least 75 instances since April 18 in which arrests were made at U.S. campus protests. Nearly 2,900 people have been arrested at 57 colleges and universities. The figures are based on AP reporting and statements from schools and law enforcement agencies

 

[Heathen]

Egypt to join South Africa’s ICJ genocide case against Israel

Egypt says the move is due to the escalating Israeli violence against Palestinian civilians.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[SaintForLife]

Israel may have the weapons to attack Rafa, but their supplies might get exhausted. It certainly is the moral thing to do to stop supplying offensive weapons to Israel. Israel has done enough damage to Gaza and killed enough civilians with their approach to this war. Israel can continue to root out Hamas without the continued massacre. They need to be more surgical in their attacks. The 2000lb bomb is essentially a weapon of mass destruction. Hamas isn't an urgent threat, so Israel can take more time to root them out. Massacring civilians is only going to create more radicals.

It was just a ploy to try to help Biden for the election.

 

[LA - L.A.]

We'll see if Biden is being genuine or not based on how things unfold over the next couple of months.

 

[SaintForLife]

Egypt to join South Africa’s ICJ genocide case against Israel

Egypt says the move is due to the escalating Israeli violence against Palestinian civilians.

www.aljazeera.com

And yet the Isreal supporters continue to deny there is genocide. I'm guessing they are doing that for political reasons because it's pretty obvious what Isreal is doing unless you don't venture outside the corporate media.

 

[LA - L.A.]

And yet the Isreal supporters continue to deny there is genocide. I'm guessing they are doing that for political reasons because it's pretty obvious what Isreal is doing unless you don't venture outside the corporate media.

Cites a corporate media source while insulting others for not venturing "outside the corporate media."

Doesn't add up, does it?

 

[Heathen]

WH sticking to their guns. Still refusing not to pedal Israel’s BS, while children are being slaughtered day and night in Rafah. Just saying “Israel should do more”.

I don’t expect the tune to change. Shameful and spineless. Embarrassing.

National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan Outlines Path Forward for Middle East Peace

National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan offers an assessment of where things stand in the war in Gaza and outlines several steps that need to be taken to end the war and bring about peace in the Middle East. Sullivan blames Hamas for the war and says they are using innocent Palestinian civilians...

www.c-span.org

 

[DaveXA]

WH sticking to their guns. Still refusing not to pedal Israel’s BS, while children are being slaughtered day and night in Rafah. Just saying “Israel should do more”.

I don’t expect the tune to change. Shameful and spineless. Embarrassing.

National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan Outlines Path Forward for Middle East Peace

National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan offers an assessment of where things stand in the war in Gaza and outlines several steps that need to be taken to end the war and bring about peace in the Middle East. Sullivan blames Hamas for the war and says they are using innocent Palestinian civilians...

www.c-span.org

It does feel like lip service so far. That much I agree with. I think Biden needs to take a more firm approach and state unequivocally that attacking civilians in Rafah is unacceptable and that we will pull our support, not just weapons, but money, and more importantly lose their most favored nation status.

That doesn't have to mean we support Hamas, but support the Palestinians who have been stick in the middle of proxy wars and fighting for decades.

I know it's a mess and we can't ignore the geopolitics of the region, be we also can't continue giving Israel carte blanche to do whatever they want, up to committing atrocities.

Israel is the greater power here, and with great power comes great responsibility. Isreal has to depose Bibi and choose a more just and humane government.

 

[Heathen]

It does feel like lip service so far. That much I agree with. I think Biden needs to take a more firm approach and state unequivocally that attacking civilians in Rafah is unacceptable and that we will pull our support, not just weapons, but money, and more importantly lose their most favored nation status.

That doesn't have to mean we support Hamas, but support the Palestinians who have been stick in the middle of proxy wars and fighting for decades.

I know it's a mess and we can't ignore the geopolitics of the region, be we also can't continue giving Israel carte blanche to do whatever they want, up to committing atrocities.

Israel is the greater power here, and with great power comes great responsibility. Isreal has to depose Bibi and choose a more just and humane government.

While I definitely agree with a lot of what you’re saying here, I think that the reality is that removing Netanyahu isn’t going to solve a problem that is existed long before he came into power and will seemingly exist long after he’s gone. One that goes beyond any one leader or regime. That is, the racist apartheid mindset and culture, driven by zionism - a form of religious extremism, that much of Israel still widely supports.

 

[DaveXA]

While I definitely agree with a lot of what you’re saying here, I think that the reality is that removing Netanyahu isn’t going to solve a problem that is existed long before he came into power and will seemingly exist long after he’s gone. One that goes beyond any one leader or regime. That is, the racist apartheid mindset and culture, driven by zionism - a form of religious extremism, that much of Israel still widely supports.

That's why I stated "choose a more just and humane government" which would mean well beyond Bibi.

That said, I'm not sure there's enough of a movement in Israel for that much change in the government.

 

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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4661433-pentagon-intelligence-officer-quits-protest-israel-gaza/