Is Russia about to invade Ukraine? (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

Russia continues to mass assets within range of Ukraine - though the official explanations are that they are for various exercises. United States intelligence has noted that Russian operatives in Ukraine could launch 'false flag' operations as a predicate to invasion. The West has pressed for negotiations and on Friday in Geneva, the US Sec. State Blinken will meet with the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Certainly the Russian movements evidence some plan - but what is it? Some analysts believe that Putin's grand scheme involves securing Western commitments that NATO would never expand beyond its current composition. Whether that means action in Ukraine or merely the movement of pieces on the chess board remains to be seen.

VIENNA — No one expected much progress from this past week’s diplomatic marathon to defuse the security crisis Russia has ignited in Eastern Europe by surrounding Ukraine on three sides with 100,000 troops and then, by the White House’s accounting, sending in saboteurs to create a pretext for invasion.

But as the Biden administration and NATO conduct tabletop simulations about how the next few months could unfold, they are increasingly wary of another set of options for President Vladimir V. Putin, steps that are more far-reaching than simply rolling his troops and armor over Ukraine’s border.

Mr. Putin wants to extend Russia’s sphere of influence to Eastern Europe and secure written commitments that NATO will never again enlarge. If he is frustrated in reaching that goal, some of his aides suggested on the sidelines of the negotiations last week, then he would pursue Russia’s security interests with results that would be felt acutely in Europe and the United States.

There were hints, never quite spelled out, that nuclear weapons could be shifted to places — perhaps not far from the United States coastline — that would reduce warning times after a launch to as little as five minutes, potentially igniting a confrontation with echoes of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia Issues Subtle Threats More Far-Reaching Than a Ukraine Invasion

If the West fails to meet its security demands, Moscow could take measures like placing nuclear missiles close to the U.S. coastline, Russian officials have hinted.

www.nytimes.com

Blinken Will Meet With Russia as U.S. Pushes for More Diplomacy

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will meet with Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia in Geneva on Friday as the United States warns that Russia could soon attack Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

How to think about war in Ukraine

Start with the Ukrainians

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[SaintForLife]

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educate yourself bro- do us all a favor.

Oh so we are back to believing Putin. Sorry it's hard for me to keep up with when we believe Putin and when we don't believe him. Do you have a chart that I can use?

 

[efil4]

Oh so we are back to believing Putin. Sorry it's hard for me to keep up with when we believe Putin and when we don't believe him. Do you have a chart that I can use?

Did you READ it?

holy cow bro- read FURTHER DOWN. Once Ukraine discovered the mass murder in Bucha, they called off talks.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Where and who are the sources for those reports? All I see is stock pictures of planes and other photos that could be from anything, short posts on X, & people posting on Telegram. It might all be legit, but it could also be propaganda.

Incredibly, The Russian Air Force Has Lost Another Rare A-50 Radar Plane

Incredibly, the Russian air force has lost another one of its rare Beriev A-50U/M Mainstay radar early-warning planes. Reportedly to Ukrainian action.

www.forbes.com

 

[LA - L.A.]

That might be true, but all countries lie especially during wartime.

Russia is in wartime, are they not?

 

[SaintForLife]

Russia is in wartime, are they not?

Yep, but I'm not citing Putin or Russia about casualties, battles, destruction of tanks or planes, etc.

 

[MT15]

Yep, but I'm not citing Putin or Russia about casualties, battles, destruction of tanks or planes, etc.

Who are you citing, when you said the war is already over and Russia won?

 

[efil4]

Yep, but I'm not citing Putin or Russia about casualties, battles, destruction of tanks or planes, etc.

Lol nope you just "question" the sources when presented.

 

[MT15]

This is great. I sure hope the international community moves on this. Give Ukraine every penny of Russian assets.

 

[MT15]

 

[Taurus]

It'd be something close to that in Congress if the traitorous God-botherer in the Speaker's chair would allow a vote

 

[LA - L.A.]

Yep, but I'm not citing Putin or Russia about casualties, battles, destruction of tanks or planes, etc.

Yep, but you have cited Putin or Russia when declaring that the US stopped peace talks.

You have cited Putin or Russia when declaring that NATO and US actions are to blame for Putin invading Ukraine.

You have cited Putin or Russia when declaring that the US overthrew the previous Ukrainian leadership.

You have cited Putin or Russia when declaring that Ukraine is just a puppet proxy for the US.

I get why you tend to trust Putin and Russia over the US. When we think everyone is a liar, we tend to take the word of the liar that we identify with the most. You clearly identify with Putin and Russia more than the US, that's why you keep siding with those liars.

Remember, you're the one who declared that they are all liars and you're the one who keeps choosing to agree with and align with the lies that Putin and Russia are saying.

 

[SaintForLife]

Who are you citing, when you said the war is already over and Russia won?

Your favorite corporate media that has been cheerleaders the war until recently.

 

[SaintForLife]

Yep, but you have cited Putin or Russia when declaring that the US stopped peace talks.

Back to making things up? I've cited reporters that listed Putin among multiple other people that said the US stopped peace talks.

You have cited Putin or Russia when declaring that NATO and US actions are to blame for Putin invading Ukraine.

Wrong again. I cited US and NATO officials that said that's why Putin invaded Ukraine

You have cited Putin or Russia when declaring that the US overthrew the previous Ukrainian leadership.

Wrong again.

You have cited Putin or Russia when declaring that Ukraine is just a puppet proxy for the US.

Nope. Why don't you link to my posts where you claimed I've cited Putin?

I get why you tend to trust Putin and Russia over the US. When we think everyone is a liar, we tend to take the word of the liar that we identify with the most. You clearly identify with Putin and Russia more than the US, that's why you keep siding with those liars.

I've never said that I trust Putin. Are you able to post without making things up?

Remember, you're the one who declared that they are all liars and you're the one who keeps choosing to agree with and align with the lies that Putin and Russia are saying.

Most of the US officials especially Neocons constantly lie about war.

Only in your juvenile & simplistic analysis would one think that criticizing the war means someone supports Russia. New age McCarthyism.

 

[efil4]

Back to making things up? I've cited reporters that listed Putin among multiple other people that said the US stopped peace talks.


Wrong again. I cited US and NATO officials that said that's why Putin invaded Ukraine


Wrong again.

Nope. Why don't you link to my posts where you claimed I've cited Putin?

I've never said that I trust Putin. Are you able to post without making things up?

Most of the US officials especially Neocons constantly lie about war.

Only in your juvenile & simplistic analysis would one think that criticizing the war means someone supports Russia. New age McCarthyism.

we have all seen it here time and time again. No one has to prove anything.

you lie, you mischaracterize, you misinform, you are particularly ambiguous in context ( we all know why ) consistently and without fail.

You know very little about the goings on in this conflict outside of what you are routinely spoon-fed.

And when someone counters your insanely weak argument(s) or stance, you immediately refer to them "lapping up " CIA Operation whatever or MSM - ( i see the new one now is New Age McCarthyism )


And yet you continue to feed from the trough of lies and misinfo and then RUN to post all your neat little twitter links. Most of the time without a single opinion - just naked links with no context ( purposefully ambiguous )

You have become completely transparent to me. I see right thru you.

 

[SaintForLife]

we have all seen it here time and time again. No one has to prove anything.

Translation: We are making things up

you lie, you mischaracterize, you misinform, you are particularly ambiguous in context ( we all know why ) consistently and without fail.

You know very little about the goings on in this conflict outside of what you are routinely spoon-fed.

And when someone counters your insanely weak argument(s) or stance, you immediately refer to them "lapping up " CIA Operation whatever or MSM - ( i see the new one now is New Age McCarthyism )


And yet you continue to feed from the trough of lies and misinfo and then RUN to post all your neat little twitter links. Most of the time without a single opinion - just naked links with no context ( purposefully ambiguous )

You have become completely transparent to me. I see right thru you.

Have you thought about going to fight in Ukraine since you are so gung ho about the war?

I'm guessing you are more comfortable clapping like a seal for more death and destruction in the comfort of your home & letting others die.

 

[efil4]

Translation: We are making things up

Have you thought about going to fight in Ukraine since you are so gung ho about the war?

I'm guessing you are more comfortable clapping like a seal for more death and destruction in the comfort of your home & letting others die.

nothing has been made up. its all in this thread for you to revisit whenever you like.

Yes- seriously- if I were single, i would have been there in Feb 2022. Im past my prime, but could have assisted in whatever way they needed with my previous US Army service etc. I have donated goods and $$$ to Ukraine and we have planned to visit once this conflict is over.

Im saddened that Ukrainians have to die to defend their sovereignty.

As for the seal clapping part-you mistaken my enthusiasm for the death of Russia for this war. I applaud each and every day I open Telegram to see another 1000 Russian troops KIA/WIA

I applaud every day i see video of PFV drones killing Russians who rape/pillage/kill on land that isnt theirs.

All for the goals of one man. One. Who wants nothing more than to see YOUR country become the #5 country on a global stage.

Seems to me you are ok with that? Good news for you is you dont have to spend a decade in a Gulag for thinking that, or worry that the tea you are about to sip is laced with novachok.

 

[SaintForLife]

It's insane that people think Ukraine is worth a possible nuclear war.

 

[SaintForLife]