Is Russia about to invade Ukraine? (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

Russia continues to mass assets within range of Ukraine - though the official explanations are that they are for various exercises. United States intelligence has noted that Russian operatives in Ukraine could launch 'false flag' operations as a predicate to invasion. The West has pressed for negotiations and on Friday in Geneva, the US Sec. State Blinken will meet with the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Certainly the Russian movements evidence some plan - but what is it? Some analysts believe that Putin's grand scheme involves securing Western commitments that NATO would never expand beyond its current composition. Whether that means action in Ukraine or merely the movement of pieces on the chess board remains to be seen.

VIENNA — No one expected much progress from this past week’s diplomatic marathon to defuse the security crisis Russia has ignited in Eastern Europe by surrounding Ukraine on three sides with 100,000 troops and then, by the White House’s accounting, sending in saboteurs to create a pretext for invasion.

But as the Biden administration and NATO conduct tabletop simulations about how the next few months could unfold, they are increasingly wary of another set of options for President Vladimir V. Putin, steps that are more far-reaching than simply rolling his troops and armor over Ukraine’s border.

Mr. Putin wants to extend Russia’s sphere of influence to Eastern Europe and secure written commitments that NATO will never again enlarge. If he is frustrated in reaching that goal, some of his aides suggested on the sidelines of the negotiations last week, then he would pursue Russia’s security interests with results that would be felt acutely in Europe and the United States.

There were hints, never quite spelled out, that nuclear weapons could be shifted to places — perhaps not far from the United States coastline — that would reduce warning times after a launch to as little as five minutes, potentially igniting a confrontation with echoes of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia Issues Subtle Threats More Far-Reaching Than a Ukraine Invasion

If the West fails to meet its security demands, Moscow could take measures like placing nuclear missiles close to the U.S. coastline, Russian officials have hinted.

www.nytimes.com

Blinken Will Meet With Russia as U.S. Pushes for More Diplomacy

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will meet with Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia in Geneva on Friday as the United States warns that Russia could soon attack Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

How to think about war in Ukraine

Start with the Ukrainians

snyder.substack.com

 

[DaveXA]

end game- if legit. still need corroboration

Congress really needs to step up to the plate. Unfortunate, abdicating responsibility is a thing with them.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

If we're to enter World War III, it'll be because of this. And I could see him using that as an excuse to stay in power.

The only thing that is stopping us from siding with the Axis of Evil is Congress.

 

[efil4]

tangentially related- Canadians are starting a petition to the Canadian government to cancel the F35 order.

Countries are going to start, soon enough, to stop purchasing US weaponry. Thats when things will change.

I said previously when Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon and all other defense mfgs start feeling it, they will make their respective reps feel it

 

[J-DONK]

tangentially related- Canadians are starting a petition to the Canadian government to cancel the F35 order.

Countries are going to start, soon enough, to stop purchasing US weaponry. Thats when things will change.

I said previously when Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon and all other defense mfgs start feeling it, they will make their respective reps feel it

I think Trump may rescind approval for American weapons in Ukraine if Europe goes ahead with it's funding package. He would be extremely pissed at being made irrelevant, and impotent.

 

[DaveXA]

I think Trump may rescind approval for American weapons in Ukraine if Europe goes ahead with it's funding package. He would be extremely pissed at being made irrelevant, and impotent.

He would, certainly, but there are some very, very powerful people within defense contractors who can make life bitterly difficult for Trump. Once the Republicans in Congress start feeling that, Trump would be marginalized pretty quickly.

This is part of the reason I want Trump to follow through on his threat. He'd be effectively ending his Presidency.

 

[efil4]

I think Trump may rescind approval for American weapons in Ukraine if Europe goes ahead with it's funding package. He would be extremely pissed at being made irrelevant, and impotent.

and Germany can buy a Stryker, slap a VW emblem on it and ship to Ukraine.

Shoot, China been doing for years

 

[efil4]

Looks like US has revamped their offer LOL

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Looks like US has revamped their offer LOL

Charlie Kelly wrote a song about his gang's bar that seems like it would be an appropriate response to this offer. Despite what the criminal leading our county believes, we are not a mercenary nation.

Charlie's Song (NSFW)

 

[Lapaz]

He would, certainly, but there are some very, very powerful people within defense contractors who can make life bitterly difficult for Trump. Once the Republicans in Congress start feeling that, Trump would be marginalized pretty quickly.

This is part of the reason I want Trump to follow through on his threat. He'd be effectively ending his Presidency.

What stinks is that the resistance to Trump is split. People are waiting until they feel it before speaking out. I suppose it will only take a small percentage to come to the realization to join Democrats, but it is wrong that they only realize it when it hits them, rather than being aware of the pains and wrongs that are being doled out to others.

 

[J-DONK]

What stinks is that the resistance to Trump is split. People are waiting until they feel it before speaking out. I suppose it will only take a small percentage to come to the realization to join Democrats, but it is wrong that they only realize it when it hits them, rather than being aware of the pains and wrongs that are being doled out to others.

His approval numbers are already tanking.

 

[efil4]

Looks like the strongarm tactics might win out - Putin has to be beaming right about now.

It is going to take a decade or more to undo this geopolitical damage- and thats if Trump leaves office in 2028.

I think there is a new alignment happening w/ Trump, Putin and Xi that hasnt been publicized just yet.



Damn you Biden...you had a chance to truly decimate Russia into assimilating, but instead, you pursyfooted around, and election was lost to a Putin acolyte and the entire geopolitical and domestic landscape is forever changed.

Watch out Greenland, Panama and Canada.

 

[efil4]

Donald Trump Was Recruited by the KGB Under Codename 'Krasnov' Claims Former Soviet Spy Chief

A former senior KGB chief claims Trump was recruited by them in 1987 due to his role as a prominent US businessman

bylinetimes.com

 

[J-DONK]

Donald Trump Was Recruited by the KGB Under Codename 'Krasnov' Claims Former Soviet Spy Chief

A former senior KGB chief claims Trump was recruited by them in 1987 due to his role as a prominent US businessman

bylinetimes.com

IDK what is going on, but his relationshp with Putin, and Russia is off.

 

[efil4]

IDK what is going on, but his relationshp with Putin, and Russia is off.

i think its a US, Russia and China alignment for global dominance

I dont think its opaque any longer. We will soon see the results once Ukraine has been divvied up.