Is Russia about to invade Ukraine? (2 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Russia continues to mass assets within range of Ukraine - though the official explanations are that they are for various exercises. United States intelligence has noted that Russian operatives in Ukraine could launch 'false flag' operations as a predicate to invasion. The West has pressed for negotiations and on Friday in Geneva, the US Sec. State Blinken will meet with the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Certainly the Russian movements evidence some plan - but what is it? Some analysts believe that Putin's grand scheme involves securing Western commitments that NATO would never expand beyond its current composition. Whether that means action in Ukraine or merely the movement of pieces on the chess board remains to be seen.

VIENNA — No one expected much progress from this past week’s diplomatic marathon to defuse the security crisis Russia has ignited in Eastern Europe by surrounding Ukraine on three sides with 100,000 troops and then, by the White House’s accounting, sending in saboteurs to create a pretext for invasion.

But as the Biden administration and NATO conduct tabletop simulations about how the next few months could unfold, they are increasingly wary of another set of options for President Vladimir V. Putin, steps that are more far-reaching than simply rolling his troops and armor over Ukraine’s border.

Mr. Putin wants to extend Russia’s sphere of influence to Eastern Europe and secure written commitments that NATO will never again enlarge. If he is frustrated in reaching that goal, some of his aides suggested on the sidelines of the negotiations last week, then he would pursue Russia’s security interests with results that would be felt acutely in Europe and the United States.

There were hints, never quite spelled out, that nuclear weapons could be shifted to places — perhaps not far from the United States coastline — that would reduce warning times after a launch to as little as five minutes, potentially igniting a confrontation with echoes of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia Issues Subtle Threats More Far-Reaching Than a Ukraine Invasion

If the West fails to meet its security demands, Moscow could take measures like placing nuclear missiles close to the U.S. coastline, Russian officials have hinted.

www.nytimes.com

Blinken Will Meet With Russia as U.S. Pushes for More Diplomacy

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will meet with Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia in Geneva on Friday as the United States warns that Russia could soon attack Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

How to think about war in Ukraine

Start with the Ukrainians

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[MT15]

Says the person who posts things from CIA mouthpieces. You are doing the CIAs work for them on your own by accusing people who criticize US foreign policy of supporting Putin.

Operation mockingbird would be proud of you.

This is a complete non-sequitur and a personal attack. Plus it’s absolutely pathetic that you think I am doing the CIA’s work for them. Honestly this says far more about you than it does about me.

 

[SaintForLife]

This is a complete non-sequitur and a personal attack. Plus it’s absolutely pathetic that you think I am doing the CIA’s work for them. Honestly this says far more about you than it does about me.

You are absolutely doing the CIAs work for them. They have brainwashed people, with help from the media, to accuse anyone who questions foreign policy of supporting Putin. It's almost like a reflex for you you do it so often.

Are you familiar with operation mockingbird?

 

[bird]

Says the person who posts things from CIA mouthpieces. You are doing the CIAs work for them on your own by accusing people who criticize US foreign policy of supporting Putin.

Operation mockingbird would be proud of you.

So the American Bund would be proud of you.

 

[MT15]

You are absolutely doing the CIAs work for them. They have brainwashed people, with help from the media, to accuse anyone who questions foreign policy of supporting Putin. It's almost like a reflex for you you do it so often.

Are you familiar with operation mockingbird?

Telling the truth and pointing out when people repeat Putin’s lies isn‘t doing the CIA’s work. Do you know how absolutely unhinged you sound with this nonsense?

 

[efil4]

How often do you believe politicians?

He isn't a politician. He is a full fledged dictator.

He doesn't operate within a system...he IS the system.

 

[SaintForLife]

Telling the truth and pointing out when people repeat Putin’s lies isn‘t doing the CIA’s work. Do you know how absolutely unhinged you sound with this nonsense?

Telling the truth is parroting CIA mouthpieces like Anne Applebaum and CIA talking points?

You reflexively accuse anyone who criticizes US foreign of supporting Putin. That's unhinged.

 

[efil4]

Oh in this instance we should believe what Russia/Putin said?

Still posting tweets from the CIA mouthpiece Anne Applebaum huh?

CIA mouthpiece? Because she writes on topics that go against your beliefs?

 

[MT15]

Telling the truth is parroting CIA mouthpieces like Anne Applebaum and CIA talking points?

You reflexively accuse anyone who criticizes US foreign of supporting Putin. That's unhinged.

No, I do not. I accuse you of parroting Putin’s propaganda because you do.

Can you show me where I can find these CIA talking points? My newsletter must be late….lol

When I gave you casualty figures, I quoted 4 sources - one of which was a Russian analyst. You just said you don’t believe them, but have no figures of your own. Because you believe these weird Twitter people who are telling you that the war is over? That Russia already won?

This is a big clue that you are getting your info from Russia, btw. Your info is being laundered through some other sources, but it is coming from Moscow originally.

 

[MT15]

CIA mouthpiece? Because she writes on topics that go against your beliefs?

He loves to tell me what I am and who I am. He generally hasn’t a clue, btw.

I’m a retired grandmother from the Midwest who evidently has a pipeline directly from the CIA, lol.

 

[efil4]

Telling the truth is parroting CIA mouthpieces like Anne Applebaum and CIA talking points?

You reflexively accuse anyone who criticizes US foreign of supporting Putin. That's unhinged.

You are truly lost. I feel bad for you. I have run across just a handful of folks so deep in the rabbit hole that nothing logical or sensible moves the needle. You are top 2. Seriously.

 

[CoolBrees]

Yeah, I have never had any social media, other than LinkedIn, haven't even had cable for over 10 years and read only Reuter's and AP. CIA must run SR (just kidding please don't come here and kill me)

the stuff SFL posts is wild.

SFL is on conspiracy island. Definitely believed Pizzagate. Probably medbed curious.

Oh and glad to see Technofog is back! I missed that "person"

 

[efil4]

Yeah, I have never had any social media, other than LinkedIn, haven't even had cable for over 10 years and read only Reuter's and AP. CIA must run SR (just kidding please don't come here and kill me)

the stuff SFL posts is wild.

SFL is on conspiracy island. Definitely believed Pizzagate. Probably medbed curious.

Oh and glad to see Technofog is back! I missed that "person"

Lol "Conspiracy Island".

So he is Tattoo. " De plane Boss. De plane".

Ahahhhahhaaahaha. That's awesome. I'm stealing that descriptor. Conspiracy Island. Omg you gotta submit that to SNL.

 

[MT15]

Yeah, I have never had any social media, other than LinkedIn, haven't even had cable for over 10 years and read only Reuter's and AP. CIA must run SR (just kidding please don't come here and kill me)

the stuff SFL posts is wild.

SFL is on conspiracy island. Definitely believed Pizzagate. Probably medbed curious.

Oh and glad to see Technofog is back! I missed that "person"

It is wild, but he lives on Twitter, where what he posts isn’t nearly the wildest stuff out there.

I saw several entire threads devoted to showing altered videos that “prove” Michelle Obama has a penis. Evidently they believe that the Obamas have crafted this elaborate mirage about being a heterosexual couple with children, which involves them getting their kids from another couple they are best friends with, yet they cannot manage to hide Michelle’s penis under normal clothing. I even saw an altered birth certificate and voter registration. All poorly done.

I also saw a trend the other day saying mythical Biblical giants were found roaming the mall in Miami. With grainy videos of a pretty big police response and claims that the airport had been shut down and the power grid had been cut off.

So, I guess he hasn’t gone all the way down the rabbit hole. Oh, and I reported several of the people who were pushing fake videos and documents about Michelle Obama, but received word from Twitter that what there were doing was A-OK with them.

 

[CoolBrees]

It is wild, but he lives on Twitter, where what he posts isn’t nearly the wildest stuff out there.

I saw several entire threads devoted to showing altered videos that “prove” Michelle Obama has a penis. Evidently they believe that the Obamas have crafted this elaborate mirage about being a heterosexual couple with children, which involves them getting their kids from another couple they are best friends with, yet they cannot manage to hide Michelle’s penis under normal clothing. I even saw an altered birth certificate and voter registration. All poorly done.

I also saw a trend the other day saying mythical Biblical giants were found roaming the mall in Miami. With grainy videos of a pretty big police response and claims that the airport had been shut down and the power grid had been cut off.

So, I guess he hasn’t gone all the way down the rabbit hole. Oh, and I reported several of the people who were pushing fake videos and documents about Michelle Obama, but received word from Twitter that what there were doing was A-OK with them.

So, it's The Weekly World News. Have they sued for infringement?

You remember the WWN right? It was at the supermarket checkout in the 80's and 90's.

Batboys and alien presidents and pit bulls eating mobile homes and stuff.

 

[CoolBrees]

Lol "Conspiracy Island".

So he is Tattoo. " De plane Boss. De plane".

Ahahhhahhaaahaha. That's awesome. I'm stealing that descriptor. Conspiracy Island. Omg you gotta submit that to SNL.

As far as I know I made that up.

I I have no idea how to submit an idea that but I am sure someone came up with it already and I just didn't know it.

 

[zztop]

It is wild, but he lives on Twitter, where what he posts isn’t nearly the wildest stuff out there.

I saw several entire threads devoted to showing altered videos that “prove” Michelle Obama has a penis. Evidently they believe that the Obamas have crafted this elaborate mirage about being a heterosexual couple with children, which involves them getting their kids from another couple they are best friends with, yet they cannot manage to hide Michelle’s penis under normal clothing. I even saw an altered birth certificate and voter registration. All poorly done.

I also saw a trend the other day saying mythical Biblical giants were found roaming the mall in Miami. With grainy videos of a pretty big police response and claims that the airport had been shut down and the power grid had been cut off.

So, I guess he hasn’t gone all the way down the rabbit hole. Oh, and I reported several of the people who were pushing fake videos and documents about Michelle Obama, but received word from Twitter that what there were doing was A-OK with them.

I'm reminded of this topic you made

https://madaboutpolitics.com/threads/a-thread-about-russian-disinformation.90876/

Between willful attempts by certain countries, and the social media algorithms leading people more and more down the rabbit hole of craziness... you end up getting people like that Q-anon guy that killed his own kids b/c he came to believe his children were actually lizard people.

 

[MT15]

This is who Trump would give Ukraine to, this is who Trump admires so much.

 

[zztop]

"mysterious deaths"

...is it though? lol

Suspicious deaths of notable Russians in 2022–2024 - Wikipedia

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