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    A couple of days ago, one of the main US-MX border points of entry was blocked by 1000's of migrants demanding entry into the country, which caused chaos for those who lawfully cross the border on business, for work, or for delivery of goods, both ways.

    Lawful border crossings are getting progressively worse across the border, and drug cartels are finding it easier to move product, as the CBP has to transfer personnel and efforts to the processing of migrants.

    It's not different on MX's South border. Yesterday, ~5000 migrants stormed into Chiapas all the way to the INM building (INM is immigration) running over fences, barricades, and elements of the National Guard. They are now taking over an ecological park in Tapachula, Chiapas, which it's going to be severely affected, as it's been the case with just about everywhere migrants squat.

    Unfortunately, Juan Trump (that's Donald Trump's pet name for the President of México) was bamboozled by his "friend" Donald into making MX a "lobby" for migrants trying to reach the U.S.

    Many people would argue that migrants are "good for the economy", but that is not always the case. Billions of dollars leave the U.S. economy every year, because migrants send money from the U.S. to other countries to support families there. The biggest destinations are India and MX, to the tune of 100 billion dollars in 2023 alone, according to the Bank of México (kind of like the MX version of the Fed). These billions of dollars do not circulate in the U.S. economy.

    Speaking of inflation, the past year, the U.S. dollar has lost ~20% of its value against the MX peso. One of the main reasons for it, is the amount of money being sent to MX from the U.S. And MX is the U.S. 2nd largest trading partner.

    Gregg Abbott is a lot of things, but I don't blame him for his attempts at curbing the hordes of people demanding entry into the U.S., even the busing of migrants to other States, making some put their money where their mouth is, like the Mayor of NYC, who was so welcoming of migrants, until he he got a taste, then went crying to the federal government for more money, while the shelters were at full capacity; shelters which BTW serve the NYC poor as well.

    And please, no one mention a wall. There is a wall. A wall can be climbed; a wall can be dug under.; holes can be punched through walls.
     
    Books have literally been written about what happened to the GOP and when it started and who's to blame

    It usually some combination of Rush, Newt and FOX
    Definitely those 3 are the big ones. They certainly fed into each other. The contract with America, and Rush+Fox amplifying that message. Certainly was a precursor of things to come for the party.
     
    Surreal how far (R) has shifted since then


    Reagan knew why they thought coming here was their only chance at a decent life, because he played a big part in causing that to be the case. It is too bad the people who idolized him just 8 years ago couldn't hold on to some of that empathy.
     
    Old Ron would be called a RINO if he was alive today. He wouldn't get 10% of the nomnaion votes in a Republican Primary with todays MAGA cult...
    Reagan would've made Trump look like the petulant man-child Trump is. Reagan would not have backed down like all of the GOP candidates (Rubio and Cruz in particular) or Hillary did.
     
    I’ve never been a libertarian.

    lol. I have a question for you - when you used to identify as libertarian did you ever foresee yourself calling for government intrusion like you do now? Because you have done a 180 degree about face on government control of peoples’ lives.

    No federal vaccine mandate was without exceptions except for the military. That was fine with me.

    Bibles and prayer in the schools are generally considered unconstitutional. Government and religion should be kept separate. It doesn’t depend on locality, the Constitution applies everywhere.

    People should be able to discuss what they want at work. But if they get to the point of harassment or hate speech, then they need to be told to knock it off with whatever disciplinary measures are appropriate.

    I believe in the First Amendment. I believe we are better off when social media excludes hate speech on their own. I don’t think it’s smart to let hate fester online, do you? To let people tell lies about a certain segment of the population.

    I think the government has a duty to inform the citizenry. We shouldn’t let foreign governments or bad actors come in and poison the minds of our citizens like they are doing right now. I think social media companies have an obligation to protect the users of their platforms from disinformation to a reasonable extent.

    We are at the point, or soon will be, where child pornography can be AI generated, meaning no actual children are involved. Do you think it’s right to remove restrictions on it? I sure don’t.

    I think you will find that I have some pretty reasonable ideas about things. But you are so brainwashed by your consumption of outrage porn that I am sure you think I am Satan’s helper. But you can step away. You don’t have to believe the lies that right wing outrage merchants are selling you. The vast majority of people in the US are reasonable and straightforward. Plus it isn’t healthy for your own psyche to be going around thinking half of the people in this country are demons.
    I don't think I would have ever considered myself a 'libertarian', but I really don't care what people label me. I guess that is the one positive of being called a racist or bigot for having a different political and cultural view all the time.

    Is OCHA a federal?
     
    I don't think I would have ever considered myself a 'libertarian', but I really don't care what people label me. I guess that is the one positive of being called a racist or bigot for having a different political and cultural view all the time.

    Is OCHA a federal?

    Tbh, most of us call you a troll, not a racist, or bigot.
     
    Cool story. Thanks for sharing. If I am a troll, why did you just feed me?

    This doesn't feed you. In fact, I know I get under your skin making fun of you. Why else would you respond at all?

    You can't even troll well. You aren't smart enough for that kind of guile.
     
    This doesn't feed you. In fact, I know I get under your skin making fun of you. Why else would you respond at all?

    You can't even troll well. You aren't smart enough for that kind of guile.
    Sure. Well, it looks like you are wrong again. The personal attacks are coming in, so I think someone is upset but it doesn't appear to be me.
     
    The feeble minded label people they disagree with as trolls.
    You label everyone you disagree with as war-mongers and say they “clap like seals”. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

    In my experience on here, people get called trolls for behaving like one.
     
    You label everyone you disagree with as war-mongers and say they “clap like seals”. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

    In my experience on here, people get called trolls for behaving like one.
    Not quite. I label people warmongers who uncritically cheer on more death and destruction when they would never do that if they or their loved ones were the ones fighting and getting killed.

    You guys call any Trump supporters trolls not even based on something specific. It's just a general charge yall throw out there.

    Can you name anyone here on the left that yall have called a troll?
     
    Not quite. I label people warmongers who uncritically cheer on more death and destruction when they would never do that if they or their loved ones were the ones fighting and getting killed.

    You guys call any Trump supporters trolls not even based on something specific. It's just a general charge yall throw out there.

    Can you name anyone here on the left that yall have called a troll?
    Complete projection. Nobody on here is cheering on death and destruction. That’s why you get called a troll. This right here.
     
    Sure. Well, it looks like you are wrong again. The personal attacks are coming in, so I think someone is upset but it doesn't appear to be me.

    "I know you are but what am I"

    Keep proving me right, Farb.
     

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