Immigration is completely out of control (2 Viewers)

[SystemShock]

A couple of days ago, one of the main US-MX border points of entry was blocked by 1000's of migrants demanding entry into the country, which caused chaos for those who lawfully cross the border on business, for work, or for delivery of goods, both ways.

Lawful border crossings are getting progressively worse across the border, and drug cartels are finding it easier to move product, as the CBP has to transfer personnel and efforts to the processing of migrants.

It's not different on MX's South border. Yesterday, ~5000 migrants stormed into Chiapas all the way to the INM building (INM is immigration) running over fences, barricades, and elements of the National Guard. They are now taking over an ecological park in Tapachula, Chiapas, which it's going to be severely affected, as it's been the case with just about everywhere migrants squat.

Unfortunately, Juan Trump (that's Donald Trump's pet name for the President of México) was bamboozled by his "friend" Donald into making MX a "lobby" for migrants trying to reach the U.S.

Many people would argue that migrants are "good for the economy", but that is not always the case. Billions of dollars leave the U.S. economy every year, because migrants send money from the U.S. to other countries to support families there. The biggest destinations are India and MX, to the tune of 100 billion dollars in 2023 alone, according to the Bank of México (kind of like the MX version of the Fed). These billions of dollars do not circulate in the U.S. economy.

Speaking of inflation, the past year, the U.S. dollar has lost ~20% of its value against the MX peso. One of the main reasons for it, is the amount of money being sent to MX from the U.S. And MX is the U.S. 2nd largest trading partner.

Gregg Abbott is a lot of things, but I don't blame him for his attempts at curbing the hordes of people demanding entry into the U.S., even the busing of migrants to other States, making some put their money where their mouth is, like the Mayor of NYC, who was so welcoming of migrants, until he he got a taste, then went crying to the federal government for more money, while the shelters were at full capacity; shelters which BTW serve the NYC poor as well.

And please, no one mention a wall. There is a wall. A wall can be climbed; a wall can be dug under.; holes can be punched through walls.

 

[UriUT]

I don’t think he meant it as a total ban. I think he was talking in generalities. Your points are good, and I could see the need to import specialized skills from time to time.

It’s hard to look at some of the wealthy immigrants to the US (Murdock and Musk leap to mind) and think that the US is better off because of their presence. I want people to come here who want to better themselves, not to exploit our system. Poor immigrants have been a lifeblood for the US for a long time.

At the same time, we do need to have programs to help our own poor population and I have always supported that as well. But we do need more people to be here.

I don't think using Murdock or Musk to limit HB1 visas is appropriate. As Rob pointed out, HB1 serves a purpose in filling the gap that the US cannot provide. For example, despite more medical schools opening in recent years and admitting more students in the entering classes for current med schools, there is still a demand for more doctors. The US is generally considered to have the best higher education, yet we cannot churn out enough skilled labor. HB1 is also beneficial in that the US doesn't have to invest in expensive education for those skilled workers, while also taking away the best from those countries. The positive economic impact is clear. From Chairman Powell, to the CBO, to numerous economists, immigration is a net positive for the US economy. And the higher skilled the immigrant, the greater the impact. Funnily enough, under Trump, HB1 visas were drastically reduced. There may be an argument, as Buttigieg argues, that Trump's policy actually increased illegal immigration.

Interestingly enough, Canada and the US's immigration policy are often compared. Canada is regarded to have a more amiable policy towards immigrants, yet the economic impact is greater in the US.

One possible reason is that the US is the more attractive option for these skilled labor. Therefore, the US gets the more educated, more skilled whereas Canada gets the leftovers. The country of origin also has an impact. Coincidentally, Musk could not enter the US directly from South Africa. He opted to apply for a Canadian visa instead and attended school there. After a year or two, he then transferred to Penn with a HB1 visa. I assume that a visa from Canada is much easier to acquire than one from South Africa.

Outcomes of STEM immigrants in Canada and the U.S. | Canada Immigration News

Immigrants make up a large share of university-educated workers in STEM fields in both Canada and the U.S., and a recent study looked into which country sees better outcomes for immigrants in these fields.

www.cicnews.com

Recent Immigration to Canada and the United States: A Mixed Tale of Relative Selection

Using large-scale census data and adjusting for sending-country fixed effect to account for changing composition of immigrants, we study relative immigrant selection to Canada and the U.S. during 1990–2006, a period characterized by diverging ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[samiam5211]

I have been trying to find the text to the senate border and asylum reform bill. Do you a have the link?

I haven't been able to find it.

 

[SaintForLife]

NEW: CBP just released new data which reveals 404,000 migrants have now been flown directly into the U.S. under the Biden admin’s CHNV parole program for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, & Venezuelans, which grants the recipients two years of humanitarian parole in the U.S. and allows them to apply to work.
The flights are not taxpayer funded or private, they are commercial flights paid for by the recipient or their sponsor.

By flying over the border, this population of 404,000 is not included in the southern border numbers.

Country breakdown:

84,000 Cubans
154,000 Haitians
69,000 Nicaraguans
95,000 Venezuelans

Critics say this mass parole program is essentially de facto amnesty, as ICE does not have the manpower or resources to go out and deport them if they stay past their parole grant, and they are not a priority for removal under the current DHS guidelines for ICE.
Some countries, like Venezuela, aren’t cooperative with deportations and won’t take their own citizens back, yet the Biden admin continues to import Venezuelans into the U.S. by the tens of thousands via this program.

 

[samiam5211]

NEW: CBP just released new data which reveals 404,000 migrants have now been flown directly into the U.S. under the Biden admin’s CHNV parole program for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, & Venezuelans, which grants the recipients two years of humanitarian parole in the U.S. and allows them to apply to work.
The flights are not taxpayer funded or private, they are commercial flights paid for by the recipient or their sponsor.

By flying over the border, this population of 404,000 is not included in the southern border numbers.

Country breakdown:

84,000 Cubans
154,000 Haitians
69,000 Nicaraguans
95,000 Venezuelans

Critics say this mass parole program is essentially de facto amnesty, as ICE does not have the manpower or resources to go out and deport them if they stay past their parole grant, and they are not a priority for removal under the current DHS guidelines for ICE.
Some countries, like Venezuela, aren’t cooperative with deportations and won’t take their own citizens back, yet the Biden admin continues to import Venezuelans into the U.S. by the tens of thousands via this program.

When do you think this parole program first came into being?

 

[SystemShock]

 

[LA - L.A.]

I met Bill Maher once at a party thrown by one of the most prominent cosmetic surgeons in Beverly Hills, in other words there were a lot of wealthy, "beautiful" people there. I was there as the plus one of the woman I was dating at the time.

Anyhoo, Bill walks up to the group of people my date was talking to. He shakes the hand of the woman I was with in a way that was just short of kissing her hand, and then starts trying to chat her up. It wasn't obvious that we were together and I knew what she thought about him, so I just quietly waited to see how she would let him make a fool of himself.

He started pompously blathering to the group about how disgusting people's hygiene habits were. He's as much of a germaphobe as he is a xenophobic racist. Bill's blathering and eyes are rolling at his ignorantly arrogant ranting. Then he awkwardly tells the woman I was dating in lounge lizardly attempt at seduction, "you know what I mean."

She toys with him by explaining how annoyed she was that a woman at work kept insisting she was her hands after using the restroom. Bill turned white as a ghost and got noticeably worried about having shaken her hand. He asked her meekly if she really didn't wash her hands after using the restroom. She told him she never does.

He was on the verge of a full on panic attack at that point. Everyone in the group was fighting back laughing at him. It was amusing to see the blow hard left speechless. She set him at ease before he had a full meltdown. She told him that she carries alcohol with her everywhere she goes and sterilizes her hands with alcohol instead of just washing them. His color came back and he queitly shuffled away without saying anything. The group released their laughter once he was out of earshot.

The morale of the story is that Bill Maher doesn't ever know as much as he pretends to know and nothing he says should ever be taken at face value, because Bill Maher only cares about Bill Maher and will say anything that he thinks makes him say like a cool tough guy.

It's also one of my favorite stories and I don't have children or grandchildren to tell it to, so you guys have to suffer through it instead. The woman I was dating is the protaganist and hero of the story, not me. I was just a lucky eyewitness.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Sad read, and something I hadn’t thought of
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EAGLE PASS, Tex. — The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck.

The woman had been fished out of the Rio Grande minutes earlier. Now, her body lay stiff asmortician Jesus “Chuy” Gonzalez drove away from the muddy boat ramp and toward an overcrowded freezer, passing mobile homes and a casino along the way.

Maverick County purchased the trailer during the pandemic to handle covid-19 victims. It was designed to hold 20 bodies but on this day held 28 — the putrefied remains testifying to two dozen shattered dreams of reaching the United States. Only half had names.

Gonzalez didn’t flinch as he swung the freezer’s doors open. He has been around so much death that the stench of decomposition no longer bothers him. A large silver Virgen de Guadalupe dangled from his chest as he maneuvered the woman into a wooden barrack.

Nearby lay the body of a man whose arms were frozen as if he were blocking a blow. His jeans and shoes were still covered in river mud and his face marbled with sickly discoloration. Several members of a Venezuelan family who drowned together were also scattered inside the trailer. They had been there since mid-November.

Record-level migration has brought record-breaking death to Maverick County, a border community that is ground zero in the feud between Texas and the Biden administration over migration. Whereas in a typical month years ago, officials here might have recovered one or two bodies from the river, more recently they havehandled that amount in a single day. While border crossings draw the most attention in the national debate about immigration, the rising number of deaths in the Rio Grande has gone largely unnoticed.

First responders have run out of body bags and burial plots. Their rescue boats and recovery trucks are covered in dents and scratches, scars from navigating through the brush to retrieve floating bodies.

County officials say they don’t have the training or supplies to collect DNA samples of each unidentified migrant as required by state law, meaning bodies are sometimes left in fridges for months or even buried with scant attempt to identify them…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2024/texas-border-eagle-pass-migrant-deaths/

 

[zztop]

I wonder what new important things republicans will focus on next?

Senate rejects impeachment articles against Mayorkas, ending trial against Cabinet secretary

The Senate dismissed all impeachment charges against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, ending the GOP push to remove the Cabinet secretary from office.

apnews.com

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Their favorite boogie-man, CRIME!!!!!!!!

 

[MT15]

Two very good listens.

 

[zztop]

unsurprising

 

[Farb]

Their favorite boogie-man, CRIME!!!!!!!!

How many cities and jurisdictions did not report their crime rates to the FBI?

 

[DaveXA]

How many cities and jurisdictions did not report their crime rates to the FBI?

And you know this how?