General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (7 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Nearly a week after winning the presidential election, Donald Trump posted the link to a music video for a song called “Trump Won (Victory Remix)” that falsely declares he won in every state, he won the 2020 election and that Democrats are behind the assassination attempts.

The song declares “Trump won and you know it” and is performed Christian singer Natasha Owens, who previously released a song claiming Trump was chosen by God to lead.

Owens initially released “Trump Won” last year as an ode to false claims the presiden-elect made after the 2020 election. The original song spread misinformation about mass voter fraud and President Joe Biden.

But this version, shared on Truth Social, is a remix featuring fellow Trump-loving musician Nick Nittoli who raps: “Democrats want Trump off stage / But we know that they can’t aim / And he won in every state.”……

‘Trump won’ music video blames Democrats for assassination attempts

Conservative musician Natasha Owens released a remix of her song ‘Trump Won’ after Donald Trump latest election victory

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Sendai]

I am okay with the appeal. I would also be fine if the judge dismissed the case entirely. This wasnt rape or murder. It was 4 midemeanor reporting volations blown up into 34 felonies.

Former NY Gov and AG Andrew Cuomo stated these charges would never have been brought against anyone else.

But the Feds dont control the state courts and if it doesnt get dismissed by the judge it will have to work thru the appeals process.

There are due process issues that could elevate it to federal courts.

 

[coldseat]

What the fork is this guys problem? This is so disgusting. Also, they really need to get him off that speed/coke he's taking.

I'm sure the people who voted for Trump because they hate transgender people will love this. As well the people blaming transgender people for the Democrats loss.

The 2nd Dark Ages are upon us. Ignorance abounds everywhere.

 

[TampaJoe]

Was Cuomo being less then honest, and simply trying to convey favor with a GOP house before he testified? Surely not.

March 5, 2024

Andrew Cuomo subpoenaed by congressional subcommittee investigating COVID-era handling of nursing homes

The House panel probing the response to the COVID-19 pandemic has subpoenaed former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo over his handling of nursing homes during the pandemic.

abcnews.go.com

June 22, 2024

Former Gov. Cuomo hits Trump conviction: If he wasn’t running, ‘case would’ve never been brought’

Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo declared that the New York case against former President Trump "should've never been brought" and that even people who loathe Trump don't like it.

www.foxnews.com

Oct, 31, 2024

House panel refers Andrew Cuomo for prosecution, alleging 'false statements' on Covid report

A Cuomo spokesperson called the GOP-led panel’s actions a “farce” and said the ex-New York governor told the truth when he said he couldn’t recall reviewing a state report on Covid-19.

www.nbcnews.com

I dunno.

 

[MT15]

The position is supported by those on the left.

What position, exactly? Every collegiate sport has their own guidelines, specific to that sport. People of good faith are working on policies that will be fair for everyone.

Just from the very fact that you seem to think this is a simple black and white issue tells me you don’t know much about it. Like at all.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Donald Trump will take office with a pledge to “make America healthy again”, even as growing evidence shows the president-elect’s conservative policy agenda is associated with worse health.

Population health scientists see Republican-led states, some of which have the worst health outcomes in the developed world, and Trump’s track record as warning signs for the future.

“We were looking at the policies other countries had adopted that allowed their populations to live longer and healthier,” said Dr Steven Woolf, a population health researcher and family doctor at Virginia Commonwealth University.


Those policies often included universal healthcare, educational support, gun violence prevention and laws that reduce smoking – many of which are opposed by the Trump administration or have been opposed by Republican state leaders.

“One of the immediate takeaways from the election is that policy agenda is now even more doubtful – essentially a political non-starter,” said Woolf. “Now, the bigger concern sweeping over all of this is we’re likely to see the heralding of a set of new policies that are going to compromise health even more.”…….

Why the Trump administration will be bad for Americans’ health

Experts say president-elect is likely to oppose policies such as universal healthcare and measures to reduce smoking

www.theguardian.com

 

[J-DONK]

Donald Trump will take office with a pledge to “make America healthy again”, even as growing evidence shows the president-elect’s conservative policy agenda is associated with worse health.

If this was a story, that would be a massive death flag for a 300 pound 80 year old.

300 pound 78 year old president dies 12 days after taking office with the pledge "make American healthy again".

 

[not2rich]

For what it’s worth
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Wait... What? Folks In Red States Google Searched 'How To Change My Vote' In Droves After Trump's Victory

Iowa had the highest number of people searching how to change their votes.

www.theroot.com

Our country is full of dummies.

 

[not2rich]

3. The economy is a deflection. Most people understand little regarding inflation and the methods used to calculate the rate of inflation. When tariffs hit they will get a taste.

We can have the best economy in the world, but based on our standard of living a large number struggle. The problem for many of the same large number are apparently being too stupid to know or remember it was under Trump’s watch, his inaction, and mismanagement that set inflation roaring and under The Biden Administration the situation has been corrected but now at higher prices. So through disinformation and because of prejudice, the sheep turned to The Wolf to save them once again. At this point, the more pain, massive pain is required. Bon Appetite.

It's pretty simple. Those who watch and follow Fox "News" and other right wing media have been told constantly and repeatedly how terrible the economy is. In a few months, that narrative is going to change and the same audience is going to think the same economy is suddenly great.

 

[not2rich]

Allan Lichtman blames incorrect prediction on Musk and ‘explosion’ of disinformation

Since Trump claimed victory last week, Allan Lichtman acknowledged he was wrong about his Harris prediction and would reassess his method

www.independent.co.uk

Time to update those keys, bro!

 

[el caliente]

 

[J-DONK]

TBH, the DNP power brokers have to take this and sit in it for 4 years. This is 100% on the "elites" of the party. It's amazing how terrified this group is of 100% open primaries.

There has been 4 divisons in the DNP with Biden kind of being a 5th.

Pelosi - Newsom, Schiff, lots of california dems

Obama - everyone who came up in his admin

Sanders/AOC - The progressives

Biden - Clyburn, and southern black democrats

HRC - Tim Kaine, DWS, Donna Brazile, everyone who served in thier admin.

If you don't think this is how the party operates look at the Obama admin. HRC was left in control of the party with Obama as a figure head.. Who was party chair during that period? Tim Kaine, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Donna Brazile. Those are all hardcore HRC people. HRC retires, after her humilating loss and who takes over? Tom Perez - Obama admin guy.

You can tell based on all of this that Obama, and HRC agreed to a deal that he gets the presidency but she gets the party, and to run in 2016. "It's her turn." remember that?

After that we got Obama, playing kingmaker behind the scenes getting everyone to drop out for Biden in 2020.

Then for some reason despite years of bad polling no one wanted to move against Joe until it was to late. You can't use "Democracy" or the "will of the voters" as an excuse. They clearly never cared about that very much.

I've said before the Democratic party is not big on democracy itself in a very different way from the Republicans. It't like old school political bosses running the party, and deciding who is the nominee behind closed doors.

Also, if you still don't believe me, think about Harris. Obama, and Pelosi both wanted open primaries, and not you. Who does that leave?

 

[Optimus Prime]

…….A large part of what a majority of Americans voted for last week was the Trump campaign’s virulent misogyny.

Trump himself, an adjudicated rapist who has bragged about both committing sexual assault and engineering the reversal of Roe v Wade, speaks of women in vulgar, degrading terms. He picked a running mate who has denigrated childless women as “psychotic” “cat ladies”.

His adviser and funder Elon Musk, who seems to have designs on becoming something of a shadow president in Trump’s second term, is a techno-fascist pro-natalist who goes around offering women insemination.

The Trump campaign positioned itself as a champion of a hierarchical gender order, aiming to restore men to a place of wrongfully deprived supremacy over women.

Many of his voters cast their lot in with Trump hoping that he would do just that.

Now, in the wake of Trump’s victory, some of his supporters have adopted a slogan which neatly joins the movement’s twin projects of forced sex and forced pregnancy: “Your body, my choice.”

“Your body, my choice,” was coined by the far-right, pro-Nazi internet troll and Trump dinner guest Nick Fuentes on the night of the election. “Your body, my choice,” Fuentes tweeted. “Forever.”

It’s a taunting inversion of the pro-choice slogan “my body, my choice”, meant to assert women’s autonomy: instead, “your body, my choice” presents women’s full citizenship and freedom as laughable, asserting, in gleeful terms, the male supremacy that will now carry for the force of policy and law under a new Trump administration.

In response to Fuentes’s post, pro-Trump men have adopted the slogan en masse to troll women online. An analysis from the Institute for Strategic Dialogue found that the use of the phrase soared on social media in the days following the election, along with similar misogynist phrases like “get back in the kitchen”, and the use of sexist slurs directed at liberal and progressive women like Kamala Harris and Rachel Maddow.

Female TikTok users reported a flood of such comments, with “your body, my choice” chief among them on the platform.

And young girls in schools, along with their teachers and parents, reported incidents of the phrase being yelled out by boys in taunting jeers of harassment and intimidation in the days following the election.

“Your body, my choice” is a rejection of women’s rights to control their own bodies in more ways than one. In addition to the phrase’s sneering inversion of a pro-choice phrase, rejecting the abortion right and claiming the overturn of Roe as a victory for men, the phrase has a second, dual meaning: as a rape threat.

The men and boys who use it are not merely taunting women with the threat of an unwanted, forced pregnancy. They are taunting them with the threat of forced sex.…….

‘Your body, my choice’: what misogynistic Trump supporters feel about sexual power | Moira Donegan

Young pro-Trump men have rolled out a creepy, snide and all-too-revealing mantra

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bayouboy]

It's pretty simple. Those who watch and follow Fox "News" and other right wing media have been told constantly and repeatedly how terrible the economy is. In a few months, that narrative is going to change and the same audience is going to think the same economy is suddenly great.

And Trump will take credit for it!!! 100% will happen, and the lemmings will cheer!

 

[Huntn]

Yes. the nation spoke. The same way they speak every two to four years. The same way they have been speaking for decades. The same way they will speak in 2026 and 2028.

I take it that you disagree with the outcome but that is how the process works. And it did work just as it worked in 2020.

At some point in time, we have to move on. There will be other elections.

Very debatable and myopic. I can’t say for sure how you feel, but your vote (if you voted ) was to burn the country down as a democratic republic. You can’t vote for fascists who are pretending to be something else, who honor no rules when it does not suit them, spend all of their time trying to fool citizens with a continuous stream of lies, and expect a good result. THL told his minions to vote one more time and “you’ll never have to worry about voting again”. What do you think he meant by that?

But In a horribly distorted way, you’re right, a small minority 22%, a mere 4.5M (difference between Harris and Trump) out of 337M decide to move the Nation on, in it’s last democratic act, by voting down democracy and ushering in fascism. Oh yeah, we’ll, go though the motions of having elections, but if all goes according to plan, it will be just like when the right wing projectionists screamed “stolen elections”, but this time it will be for real, once a majority of election boards are subverted into THL tools, we’ll be just like Russia and we’ll see perpetual MAGA wins, that is until the revolution.

When enough people are sick enough of the BS to get off their arses and do something about it, I’m looking at the 56m who couldn't be bothered with voting. Ironically I think Jan6 gave us a taste of our future.

 

[Huntn]

I am not in charge of holding people accountable. Personally I never voted for the man. Thats the extent of my control. Obviously other people disagree. I accept the outcome and move along.

So you’re one of the 56m who could not be bothered with or decided to allow the US Govt becoming a Trump Tool? What do you see as the end game here, or have you put any thought into it?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Full excerpt

In Scranton on Wednesday, Matt Wolfson, a 45-year-old former construction worker, looked around at poverty in the Rust Belt city and thought the nation needed a change in leadership.

Wolfson said he didn’t love the dictatorial aspect of Trump’s personality, but thought it could help keep the country out of wars and maybe bring peace to some other conflicts, including in Ukraine.

“He’s good and bad. People say he’s a dictator. I believe that. I consider him like Hitler,” Wolfson said. “But I voted for the man.”

 

[Huntn]

…….A large part of what a majority of Americans voted for last week was the Trump campaign’s virulent misogyny.

Trump himself, an adjudicated rapist who has bragged about both committing sexual assault and engineering the reversal of Roe v Wade, speaks of women in vulgar, degrading terms. He picked a running mate who has denigrated childless women as “psychotic” “cat ladies”.

His adviser and funder Elon Musk, who seems to have designs on becoming something of a shadow president in Trump’s second term, is a techno-fascist pro-natalist who goes around offering women insemination.

The Trump campaign positioned itself as a champion of a hierarchical gender order, aiming to restore men to a place of wrongfully deprived supremacy over women.

Many of his voters cast their lot in with Trump hoping that he would do just that.

Now, in the wake of Trump’s victory, some of his supporters have adopted a slogan which neatly joins the movement’s twin projects of forced sex and forced pregnancy: “Your body, my choice.”

“Your body, my choice,” was coined by the far-right, pro-Nazi internet troll and Trump dinner guest Nick Fuentes on the night of the election. “Your body, my choice,” Fuentes tweeted. “Forever.”

It’s a taunting inversion of the pro-choice slogan “my body, my choice”, meant to assert women’s autonomy: instead, “your body, my choice” presents women’s full citizenship and freedom as laughable, asserting, in gleeful terms, the male supremacy that will now carry for the force of policy and law under a new Trump administration.

In response to Fuentes’s post, pro-Trump men have adopted the slogan en masse to troll women online. An analysis from the Institute for Strategic Dialogue found that the use of the phrase soared on social media in the days following the election, along with similar misogynist phrases like “get back in the kitchen”, and the use of sexist slurs directed at liberal and progressive women like Kamala Harris and Rachel Maddow.

Female TikTok users reported a flood of such comments, with “your body, my choice” chief among them on the platform.

And young girls in schools, along with their teachers and parents, reported incidents of the phrase being yelled out by boys in taunting jeers of harassment and intimidation in the days following the election.

“Your body, my choice” is a rejection of women’s rights to control their own bodies in more ways than one. In addition to the phrase’s sneering inversion of a pro-choice phrase, rejecting the abortion right and claiming the overturn of Roe as a victory for men, the phrase has a second, dual meaning: as a rape threat.

The men and boys who use it are not merely taunting women with the threat of an unwanted, forced pregnancy. They are taunting them with the threat of forced sex.…….

‘Your body, my choice’: what misogynistic Trump supporters feel about sexual power | Moira Donegan

Young pro-Trump men have rolled out a creepy, snide and all-too-revealing mantra

www.theguardian.com

If, when Trump gets his way, there will be no guard rails, when we look at the apparatus of the Federal Govt we’ll be looking at THL (The Head Liar) for every heinous act. It’s sickening and will only change for the better after serious pain. 2 years under THL might be enough, but the problem is the serious, possibly insurmountable damage that is being done to the Federal Got at this time, along with subversion of State Election boards. I’ve seen no reports, but feel the Election Board issue is inevitable. And remember the “loyalty oaths” he was going to require of GS workers? Stand by for calamity.