General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (3 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[coldseat]

No. We have been hearing about all that for over 3 years especially during this last election cycle. The voters knew all this and decided as they did last Tuesday. Nobody ignored it. That was not the only issue in this election.

It would have been nice if all of the people saying this now would have been louder for the last 4-years at telling Trump and MAGA to move on from their "stolen election". But no, they were all silent or complained about "political prosecutions". Many voted for Trump and now want Democrats to move on. Good luck with that.

 

[TampaJoe]

That's exactly what I asked. You have a misunderstanding of what accountability means.

I am not in charge of holding people accountable. Personally I never voted for the man. Thats the extent of my control. Obviously other people disagree. I accept the outcome and move along.

 

[TampaJoe]

It would have been nice if all of the people saying this now would have been louder for the last 4-years at telling Trump and MAGA to move on from their "stolen election". But no, they were all silent or complained about "political prosecutions". Many voted for Trump and now want Democrats to move on. Good luck with that.

It would have been nice if all of the people saying this now would have been louder for the last 4-years at telling Trump and MAGA to move on from their "stolen election". But no, they were all silent or complained about "political prosecutions". Many voted for Trump and now want Democrats to move on. Good luck with that.

I dont disagee with the first statement.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I am not in charge of holding people accountable...I accept the outcome and move along.

Neither am I. Now that we have established that fact, who, or better yet, what is in place that is designed to adjudicate alleged criminal acts? Here's a hint, it's not an election booth.

 

[Lapaz]

So, was he held accountable for his actions?

No Trump has not been held accountable by criminal courts. He may be held accountable by civil courts if he ever pays. Trump has highlighted the flaws in our broken system.

 

[Optimus Prime]

It would have been nice if all of the people saying this now would have been louder for the last 4-years at telling Trump and MAGA to move on from their "stolen election". But no, they were all silent or complained about "political prosecutions". Many voted for Trump and now want Democrats to move on. Good luck with that.

and by not moving on they got, what, 70-80% of republicans to believe it?

If you honestly believe you've been cheated you want revenge, or at the very least you want those who cheated you to get their comeuppance (how many of us reveled in the Rams losing one of the most boring Super Bowls of all time?)

As Trump literally said, "I am your retribution"

Told bald face lies, was allowed to continue telling the bald faced lies, people believed the bald faced lies and people voted based on their beliefs

And honestly it's possible it's that simple.

Anything they say about the economy or the border or woke issues was just lip service

Anything we speculate about sexism and racism may be off the mark

It may just be "you wronged my guy, I'm voting for my guy"

Even if they believed deep down that the economy was pretty good, etc, they were voting for their guy no matter what

Even if the dem candidate was straight from central casting (read: younger white guy) they were voting for their guy no matter what

 

[J-DONK]

The position is supported by those on the left.

How does it factor into a decision on who the vote for? Whoever runs the government can't change the NCAA policy.

It's the exact same as saying you don't like SEC fans thowing bottles on the field so you are going to vote for Harris.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

4 midemeanor reporting violations conflated into 34 felony counts using a rather unique legal theory by a DA that ran on the promise to get Trump. It wont stand up on appeal. It reeks of politics. Justice should be blind. This cse shuld never have been brought and wouldnt have been brought were it not Trump.

Hillary committed a similar reporting violation related the Steele Doosier. She was fined.

Thats just my opinion.

are you ok against letting the appeal take place? and if it stands are you ok with that? or leave it as the president is untouchable?

is this how all courts should work, if someone got off or a slap on the wrist, the next person should not be held accounable?
is that all crimes? murder, rape, etc..?

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Hillary committed a similar reporting violation related the Steele Doosier. She was fined.

Thats just my opinion.

they didn't try to prosecute Hillary on anything because they knew had nothing that would hold up in court, much less found guilty by 12 jurors.

 

[TampaJoe]

Neither am I. Now that we have established that fact, who, or better yet, what is in place that is designed to adjudicate alleged criminal acts? Here's a hint, it's not an election booth.

As I said, you are gonna have to impeach and convict him in the Senate and then take him thru the legal system. Thats doubtful after Tuesday. So yeah, in this case, at least federally, it was the election booth. We can debate whether that is as it should be until the next election but it wont change a thing.

In the meantime, the country continues to operate. I, personally, dont want to spend the next four years talking about the last 8 years.

 

[TampaJoe]

they didn't try to prosecute Hillary on anything because they knew had nothing that would hold up in court, much less found guilty by 12 jurors.

I doubt those 34 counts will survive the appeal for the same reason. Again. My opinion.

 

[J-DONK]

they didn't try to prosecute Hillary on anything because they knew had nothing that would hold up in court, much less found guilty by 12 jurors.

Republicans ability to willfuly deny reality is amazing.

Surprise, Surprise: The DOJ’s Hillary Clinton Investigation Has Been a Bust

After more than two years, an inquiry into the Clinton Foundation and Clinton's tenure at State is nearly done—and there's reportedly absolutely nothing to show for it.

www.vanityfair.com

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

I doubt those 34 counts will survive the appeal for the same reason. Again. My opinion.

so, you are fine with the appeal process taking place and not being dropped because he won the election?

 

[J-DONK]

4 midemeanor reporting violations conflated into 34 felony counts using a rather unique legal theory by a DA that ran on the promise to get Trump. It wont stand up on appeal. It reeks of politics. Justice should be blind. This cse shuld never have been brought and wouldnt have been brought were it not Trump.

Hillary committed a similar reporting violation related the Steele Doosier. She was fined.

Thats just my opinion.

The New York Tump case spawned so many conserative legal scholars. It's amazing.

 

[TampaJoe]

are you ok against letting the appeal take place? and if it stands are you ok with that? or leave it as the president is untouchable?

is this how all courts should work, if someone got off or a slap on the wrist, the next person should not be held accounable?
is that all crimes? murder, rape, etc..?

I am okay with the appeal. I would also be fine if the judge dismissed the case entirely. This wasnt rape or murder. It was 4 midemeanor reporting volations blown up into 34 felonies.

Former NY Gov and AG Andrew Cuomo stated these charges would never have been brought against anyone else.

But the Feds dont control the state courts and if it doesnt get dismissed by the judge it will have to work thru the appeals process.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

As I said, you are gonna have to impeach and convict him in the Senate and then take him thru the legal system. Thats doubtful after Tuesday. So yeah, in this case, at least federally, it was the election booth. We can debate whether that is as it should be until the next election but it wont change a thing.

In the meantime, the country continues to operate. I, personally, dont want to spend the next four years talking about the last 8 years.

Cool.

 

[J-DONK]

I am okay with the appeal. I would also be fine if the judge dismissed the case entirely. This wasnt rape or murder. It was 4 midemeanor reporting volations blown up into 34 felonies.

Former NY Gov and AG Andrew Cuomo stated these charges would never have been brought against anyone else.

But the Feds dont control the state courts and if it doesnt get dismissed by the judge it will have to work thru the appeals process.

Was Cuomo being less then honest, and simply trying to convey favor with a GOP house before he testified? Surely not.

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The House panel probing the response to the COVID-19 pandemic has subpoenaed former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo over his handling of nursing homes during the pandemic.

abcnews.go.com

June 22, 2024

Former Gov. Cuomo hits Trump conviction: If he wasn’t running, ‘case would’ve never been brought’

Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo declared that the New York case against former President Trump "should've never been brought" and that even people who loathe Trump don't like it.

www.foxnews.com

Oct, 31, 2024

House panel refers Andrew Cuomo for prosecution, alleging 'false statements' on Covid report

A Cuomo spokesperson called the GOP-led panel’s actions a “farce” and said the ex-New York governor told the truth when he said he couldn’t recall reviewing a state report on Covid-19.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

For what it’s worth
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Wait... What? Folks In Red States Google Searched 'How To Change My Vote' In Droves After Trump's Victory

Iowa had the highest number of people searching how to change their votes.

www.theroot.com